UT - Ethan Stacy, 4, Layton, 10 May 2010 - #7

songline said:

She is probably a cold blooded "B" but I will not negate that she may have also been Terrorized, this guy's eyes are horrifying.
but non of what you say here says she was not scared of him.
She could have taken pictures in case she needs evidence.
She could have been directed by SOB to go get somethings at the store, including the slushies. So it does not tell me she was not afraid. it tells me she did these things and that is all it tells me. BUT when someone is in terror of someone they do what they are told to a "T"

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nursebeeme said:

and what was stated in those charging documents was enough; beating, burning, abuse, malnutrition (and more)

All of those conditions noted in the charging documents clearly reflect the autopsy findings. ((((but no the report has not been released nor do I think it will be until trial)))

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nursebeeme said:

bashed in her baby's face with a hammer and helped her new husband burry his bruised, burned, torn, ripped, and mutiliated body on the top of a desolate mountain hundreds of miles away from his daddy who loved him

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songline said:

She is probably a cold blooded "B" but I will not negate that she may have also been Terrorized, this guy's eyes are horrifying.
but non of what you say here says she was not scared of him.
She could have taken pictures in case she needs evidence.
She could have been directed by SOB to go get somethings at the store, including the slushies. So it does not tell me she was not afraid. it tells me she did these things and that is all it tells me. BUT when someone is in terror of someone they do what they are told to a "T"

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nursebeeme said:

and what was stated in those charging documents was enough; beating, burning, abuse, malnutrition (and more)

All of those conditions noted in the charging documents clearly reflect the autopsy findings. ((((but no the report has not been released nor do I think it will be until trial)))

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nursebeeme said:

and what was stated in those charging documents was enough; beating, burning, abuse, malnutrition (and more)

All of those conditions noted in the charging documents clearly reflect the autopsy findings. ((((but no the report has not been released nor do I think it will be until trial)))

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songline said:

The way I have read it - please correct me if I am wrong. because I just got to this case. but the SOB boyfriend/husband of hers did all that.
I still wonder if she feared him. but she is not well. they both need to go away for life.

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RubyRed said:

She could not get help while they were at a courthouse with LE all around? I am glad the DA is charging her right along side of him. Personally I think she deserves worse, she was the Mom. moo

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songline said:

I do agree with you completely.
BUT I think that she is impaired, I think she is so deeply terrorized that she did not protect her son, but aided this mental case boyfriend.
Yes she is guilty, she is cold, she is sick, but I also think she could not stand up, there has to be a mental defect.

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songline said:

I do agree with you completely.
BUT I think that she is impaired, I think she is so deeply terrorized that she did not protect her son, but aided this mental case boyfriend.
Yes she is guilty, she is cold, she is sick, but I also think she could not stand up, there has to be a mental defect.

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MomofBoys said:

Her countenance after the fact makes me have to disagree. Not that there has to be a mental defect (I agree, but don't think it fits the threshold of legal insanity) but that she was terrorized. She is absolutely not acting like someone coming out from under someone's foot. She's acting like your average sociopath who made a decision that almost worked out for her.

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smart blonde said:

Bolding by smart blonde....

But, by the time she went to the store to get two slushies and two containers of lighter fluid, Ethan was already dead, so Nathan couldn't have even used the threat that if she didn't come back he'd kill Ethan. Ethan was already dead. She had zero reason not to run to the nearest police station.

I don't believe she was afraid of Nathan. For all we know, Nathan was afraid of her, right? I don't believe either was afraid of the other.

I think they were a team. They are both equally culpable. They were in this together, for whatever reason.

Stephanie's "HA, HA, HA" sealed that for me.

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songline said:

Smart blond hi, forgive me I am not aware of who Stephanie is and I did not read every single post, she had pictures on face book, and I have no clue who she is.

Yes they could have both been afraid of each other or not.

But Can you explain to me why bother taking the kid, she could have left him with his father. Did she take him to abuse him????? because the abuse started instantly...
it was SOB boyfriend who did all the physical abuse.
And it is SOB boyfriend whose eyes are scary.....I am not giving her a pass.....DON'T misunderstand me....She needs to be put away. But I do believe she is mentally ill. or else she would have made some attempt to save her son.

Yes the kid was dead when she went shopping but if she is operating from feeling terrorized she just continues to be terrified....It is just how fear is...I think she feared him, I do not think she took the boy from daddy just to abuse him, but I think she did not even make one attempt to save him not even an instinct....But she thought of taking pictures of the abuse, that HE DID!!!
They need to be put away. But I think she has a mental disability. IT IS JUST NOT NORMAL!

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smart blonde said:

You know I love ya, songline, my friend, but, I don't think we should give this mother a free pass just because she is female.

I know that there are many women who have been terrorized by men, and I do believe there is such a thing as the "Battered Woman Syndrome".

I just haven't seen anything in this case that indicates that Stephanie falls under that category. As a matter of fact, the prosecutors statement's seem pretty clear that that did not happen in this case.

Stephanie is being charged with aggravated murder, etc. in her own right.
Her charges could stand alone even without Nathan's involvement. And vice-versa.

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she is mentally ill. or else she would have made some attempt to save her son.

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songline said:

:beats: SmartBlond "NO PASS" from me at all. by now you probably read it on another post of mine.

I just think that because I cant imagine not having a natural instincts to save your child. I think she is impaired.
Taking him and not wanting him around and being annoyed with him, why not just leave him with his Dad??
No Pass my friend .... Just cant wrap my head around that someone can leave the kid behind and go be wild with your new boy friend would actually take a child to harm him.
That is very Fd UP

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She was only with him for 4 months.

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smart blonde said:

Stephanie is Ethan's mother. She is being charged with his murder.

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