CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - # 1

SuziQ said:

I just found this on the front page of the LA Times.

A love story turned mystery

After 60 years apart, a couple reunite and wed. But their time together is suddenly, inexplicably, cut short.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-disappeared3-2010feb03,0,3066456.story

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Fairy1 said:

Was it the IS thread? Why?

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SuziQ said:

I just found this on the front page of the LA Times.

A love story turned mystery

After 60 years apart, a couple reunite and wed. But their time together is suddenly, inexplicably, cut short.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-disappeared3-2010feb03,0,3066456.story

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cloudajo said:

New article in OC Register
Feb 3, 2010
Few leads in vanished millionaire case

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Bob Harrod's newlywed wife, Fontelle Harrod, said late last year that police were giving polygraph tests to family members and those close to Bob Harrod.

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Loomis confirmed that police were using a lie-detector test, but would not disclose publicly the results or to whom the tests would be administered.

http://www.ocregister.com/news/harrod-232302-bob-police.html

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SuziQ said:

I just found this on the front page of the LA Times.

A love story turned mystery

After 60 years apart, a couple reunite and wed. But their time together is suddenly, inexplicably, cut short.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-disappeared3-2010feb03,0,3066456.story

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• Bob Harrod last seen by a neighbor or neighbors.

• Afternoon – Bob’s 3 daughters went to his house. They argued over finances.
• According to Fontelle, Bob said his daughters became upset when he told them he planned to include his new wife in the estate. (Note that Bob must have told Fontelle this when they spoke later that evening.)
• Per daughter PB, “There was a family meeting on Sunday, it was heated at times, there were NO threats and we all left on good terms.” (ref IS and since removed)
  
• His daughter RB said her father lost his temper. She said he had failed to provide copies of their mother's will, which he was obligated to do because of the financial mechanisms set up by the estate. "It wasn't a heated meeting," she said in a phone interview. "Dad got heated. He's very selfish, very conditional. The day before he went missing in the afternoon, he was going to provide us copies of the will, and we went over to get the copies. He didn't have them."
• Evening - Fontelle last spoke to Bob by phone while she was in MO. (Note: MO time zone is 2 hours ahead of California.)
• ~8:00PM – Sunset in CA

• Weather: Low temp: 68.5 F, high temp: 91.4 F, avg: 78.2 F; precipitation: 0.0
• ~6:00AM – Sunrise in CA
• 9:30AM – Bob’s son-in-law JM arrives at Bob’s house.
• 10:00AM – Per officials, there was a phone call to Bob, which is the last time anyone other than SIL JM verified he was at the house. (Note: was this the housekeeper?)
• Morning/Time? - Bob talked to the housekeeper on the phone and told her to come.
• Morning/Time? – Hearsay: SIL JM went to CVS Pharmacy in Placentia. He purchased soda and paper plates. We don’t know whether he stopped at CVS on the way to Bob’s before 9:30AM, or whether he left Bob’s house in the AM, went to CVS, then returned to Bob’s house. (Note: There is a CVS Pharmacy on East Yorba Linda Boulevard, which is a 5 min drive from Bob’s house.)
• ~11:00AM-12:00? – Daughter PB says she called her father and heard her BIL say he was going to the hardware store, and her father “responded in a favorable way.” (ref IS and since removed)
• ~2:40PM – SIL JM left Bob’s house and went to Home Depot.
• ~2:55PM? – SIL JM arrived at Home Depot. (Note: Unknown which Home Depot JM went to. There is a Home Depot at 601 S Placentia Ave, Fullerton, CA 92831-5199. Distance is only 2.7 miles from Bob’s address in Placentia, about a 6-minute drive. There is another Home Depot located at 2455 E Imperial Hwy, Brea, CA 92821-6114. Distance from Bob’s address in Placentia is 2.8 miles, about a 7-minute drive.)
• ~3:00PM? – The housekeeper arrived at Bob’s house. The door was locked and nobody answered.
• 3:04PM – SIL JM paid for purchases at Home Depot (per time stamp of purchase receipt).
• 3:30PM – SIL JM arrived back at Bob’s house from Home Depot, and the housekeeper was sitting on the porch, waiting to be let in. She told JM the door was locked and nobody was answering, and that Harrod might be taking a nap. JM then went into the house to check, and Harrod was not there. JM told the housekeeper his father-in-law might have gone to visit a neighbor, police say
• Time? – Housekeeper cleaned and left the house.
• 6:00PM – SIL JM left the house and headed home to Running Springs.
• 8:00PM? – Fontelle called Bob’s house but he didn’t answer. She called him every 20 minutes until after midnight, when daughter JM called to say her father was missing.
• Evening/Night - Harrod's daughter JM, SIL’s wife, called the house, and there was no answer. She called her sisters RB and PB.
• Evening/Night – Daughter RB called Placentia Police to do a welfare check at the residence. Officers found the house empty.

• After Midnight – Bob’s daughter JM called Fontelle Harrod in Missouri and told her Bob was missing
• ~12:22AM PDST - Fontelle filed a missing persons report from Missouri with PPD.
• Daughter JM gave interview to reporter. Said her husband was with her dad at his home the day before, he went to the hardware store alone, and when he came back, her dad was gone. Asked what time, she replied, “We’re thinking maybe 1, noon?”
• After Bob disappeared, someone -- police won't say who -- told officers he might have regretted the decision to marry. For three days police thought they were dealing with a case of cold feet.

• Fontelle returned to Placentia from MO (as previously scheduled).
• In response to being contacted by family before Bob went missing, an investigator from OC Social Services showed up at Bob’s house to conduct the second investigation into suspected elder financial abuse. (ref IS and since removed)

Angelo said:

Thanks for posting this.

So sad to read Bob's words.

Bob must have told Fontelle about the "family meeting" before he vanished. I hate to think of what happened to him.

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cloudajo said:

I updated the timeline with the new info from the LA Times article. For focus, I'm just including a few days before he went missing and after.

Sat, July 25, 2009

• Bob Harrod last seen by a neighbor or neighbors.

Sun, July 26, 2009

• Afternoon – Bob’s 3 daughters went to his house. They argued over finances.
• According to Fontelle, Bob said his daughters became upset when he told them he planned to include his new wife in the estate. (Note that Bob must have told Fontelle this when they spoke later that evening.)
• Per daughter PB, “There was a family meeting on Sunday, it was heated at times, there were NO threats and we all left on good terms.” (ref IS and since removed)
  
• His daughter RB said her father lost his temper. She said he had failed to provide copies of their mother's will, which he was obligated to do because of the financial mechanisms set up by the estate. "It wasn't a heated meeting," she said in a phone interview. "Dad got heated. He's very selfish, very conditional. The day before he went missing in the afternoon, he was going to provide us copies of the will, and we went over to get the copies. He didn't have them."
• Evening - Fontelle last spoke to Bob by phone while she was in MO. (Note: MO time zone is 2 hours ahead of California.)
• ~8:00PM – Sunset in CA

Mon, July 27, 2009

• Weather: Low temp: 68.5 F, high temp: 91.4 F, avg: 78.2 F; precipitation: 0.0
• ~6:00AM – Sunrise in CA
• 9:30AM – Bob’s son-in-law JM arrives at Bob’s house.
• 10:00AM – Per officials, there was a phone call to Bob, which is the last time anyone other than SIL JM verified he was at the house. (Note: was this the housekeeper?)
• Morning/Time? - Bob talked to the housekeeper on the phone and told her to come.
• Morning/Time? – Hearsay: SIL JM went to CVS Pharmacy in Placentia. He purchased soda and paper plates. We don’t know whether he stopped at CVS on the way to Bob’s before 9:30AM, or whether he left Bob’s house in the AM, went to CVS, then returned to Bob’s house. (Note: There is a CVS Pharmacy on East Yorba Linda Boulevard, which is a 5 min drive from Bob’s house.)
• ~11:00AM-12:00? – Daughter PB says she called her father and heard her BIL say he was going to the hardware store, and her father “responded in a favorable way.” (ref IS and since removed)
• ~2:40PM – SIL JM left Bob’s house and went to Home Depot.
• ~2:55PM? – SIL JM arrived at Home Depot. (Note: Unknown which Home Depot JM went to. There is a Home Depot at 601 S Placentia Ave, Fullerton, CA 92831-5199. Distance is only 2.7 miles from Bob’s address in Placentia, about a 6-minute drive. There is another Home Depot located at 2455 E Imperial Hwy, Brea, CA 92821-6114. Distance from Bob’s address in Placentia is 2.8 miles, about a 7-minute drive.)
• ~3:00PM? – The housekeeper arrived at Bob’s house. The door was locked and nobody answered.
• 3:04PM – SIL JM paid for purchases at Home Depot (per time stamp of purchase receipt).
• 3:30PM – SIL JM arrived back at Bob’s house from Home Depot, and the housekeeper was sitting on the porch, waiting to be let in. She told JM the door was locked and nobody was answering, and that Harrod might be taking a nap. JM then went into the house to check, and Harrod was not there. JM told the housekeeper his father-in-law might have gone to visit a neighbor, police say
• Time? – Housekeeper cleaned and left the house.
• 6:00PM – SIL JM left the house and headed home to Running Springs.
• 8:00PM? – Fontelle called Bob’s house but he didn’t answer. She called him every 20 minutes until after midnight, when daughter JM called to say her father was missing.
• Evening/Night - Harrod's daughter JM, SIL’s wife, called the house, and there was no answer. She called her sisters RB and PB.
• Evening/Night – Daughter RB called Placentia Police to do a welfare check at the residence. Officers found the house empty.

Tues, July 28, 2009

• After Midnight – Bob’s daughter JM called Fontelle Harrod in Missouri and told her Bob was missing
• ~12:22AM PDST - Fontelle filed a missing persons report from Missouri with PPD.
• Daughter JM gave interview to reporter. Said her husband was with her dad at his home the day before, he went to the hardware store alone, and when he came back, her dad was gone. Asked what time, she replied, “We’re thinking maybe 1, noon?”
• After Bob disappeared, someone -- police won't say who -- told officers he might have regretted the decision to marry. For three days police thought they were dealing with a case of cold feet.

Wed, July 29, 2009

• Fontelle returned to Placentia from MO (as previously scheduled).
• In response to being contacted by family before Bob went missing, an investigator from OC Social Services showed up at Bob’s house to conduct the second investigation into suspected elder financial abuse. (ref IS and since removed)

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-disappeared3-2010feb03,0,3066456.story
http://www.ocregister.com/news/-214111--.html
http://www.ktla.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=ac85bbd7-919c-45df-8bff-de9407f59354&src=front

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suzyq211 said:

The day before he disappeared, his daughters -- Paula Borcher, Roberta Brady and Julie Michaels -- went to his home in Placentia. The four argued about money, police say.

Th red flag, as usual. So many of these "disappearances' or murders are all about money! It's right there in front of us, somehow we just need to find Mr. Harrod's body.

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Angelo said:

"Daughter JM gave interview to reporter. Said her husband was with her dad at his home the day before, he went to the hardware store alone, and when he came back, her dad was gone. Asked what time, she replied, “We’re thinking maybe 1, noon?”

"We're thinking"........She is married to the man that went to the hardware store. Her father is missing.

I have watched Julie in this video dozens of times. Disturbing. They did not even have the time-line straight.

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Fairy1 said:

Well see, that makes me believe they're NOT involved. If they were, they'd have the timeline down to the second. IMO.

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SuziQ said:

BBM. I think he might be somewhere in between the Bob's house and the home depot.

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SuziQ said:

BBM. I think he might be somewhere in between the Bob's house and the home depot.

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