2009.01.07 - Annie's D. Interview (Document Release 2009.04.06 / 2009.09.29)

natsound said:

I think if it were crystal meth we would see it in her physical appearance. People hooked on CM have rotten teeth and look absolutely horrible.

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jeepgirlva said:

ITA so what is the truth and what's a lie ...they all have said that KC was a good mother...and can't believe she would hurt Caylee on purpose but could be covering up an accident..

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natsound said:

I think if it were crystal meth we would see it in her physical appearance. People hooked on CM have rotten teeth and look absolutely horrible.

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MAMABEAR said:

I was shocked when I found out where shrooms came from. LMAO

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MAMABEAR said:

My knowledge on drugs would fit in a thimble----I am still trying to figure out how they use bamboo shoots (use it for pipes or grind it up and smoke it). But the use of meth wouldn't rot the teeth unless it had been used over a period of time---right? If she had been using it for say a month or 2 then what would she look like? I have seen peeps that look like you said tho. The kids told me that these peeps used meth and thats what happened to them. I never could figure out why they would use that crap when they know how it's made. That is scary in it's self.

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cecybeans said:

Okay, I'm so OT I'm actually on topic!

I went back and read the posts about how it sounds like Annie is helping to corroborate KC's story in her interview DESPITE all the distancing she does at the beginning. I find it particularly odd that she practically acts like she has hardly seen her at all in a year or so but then they are SUCH bff's that she just has to sneak over and spend the night after her "personal problem". Not to mention the fact that CA and GA go flying out of the house to smuggle her in. I've already said here that I think it has to do with the ZG22 stuff and Annie's tickets. But I'm trying to think of all the ways she subtly reinforces in her testimony things KC and her defense might have deemed helpful for if her real agenda is to CYA about the ZG22 business.

For one, she makes a point of talking about KC telling her she wanted to be institutionalized at some point. It strikes me that a few months later Lenamon was all over the PPD deal in an attempt to get the death penalty dropped. That might have been in the works already.

Secondly, she does a great job of trying to set up JG as a possibility - with motive and opportunity to get in KC's car trunk. We know that's been a defense theme ever since CA jumped on the bandwagon and after KC conveniently emphasized to her parents when she was in jail that she just "didn't trust" him. Getting Annie to testify to that would be very helpful to KC.

Third, that bit about distancing herself from KC until practically the slumber party, making it look like they just didn't hang out much any more. If their dual traffic citations were on May 24, that was only a couple of weeks before the cookies hit the fan - and certainly means they were seeing each other socially. That may have been the real reason for her to push for that; if she knows that she and another "ZG" got a traffic citation the same day, and she actually KNOWS who the other "ZG" is, then that is an even bigger hole in KC's entire ZFG Nanny story - one she would have had to know from the very very beginning. (Wonder if that was why LA advised her to "tell the truth" and not protect KC). I've always had a problem with Annie and the Xanax theory - I'm sure CA's medicine cabinet made getting stuff like that from others pretty unnecessary - although it was the only time in the interview she broke down into tears.

Can anyone else think of points Annie brought up that might have been seeded into her testimony to help KC's version of things?

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MAMABEAR said:

Maybe she isn't the one put Caylee in the woods. Maybe she was still in the trunk when it went to the tow yard.

Maybe KC told Ah that she killed Caylee but don't know what happened to the body. Maybe KC told AH, "The last time I saw her was when I put her in the trunk. "

AH told cops KC was to stupid to do this by herself---Yes that would be stupid--leave body in trunk---So somebody had to get rid of body when car got home from tow yard. Therefore she "had help"

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natsound said:

I really feel like their was. I feel like, somewhere along the line, she fell into a dark hole and stayed there. From friends' accounts, she wasn't a big partier up until she started hanging out with certain people. I think it was Annie who said she would only go out once a month, and often she would only have one drink or be the designated driver (I remember something along those lines). I said earlier that I think KC always had sociopathic tendencies (the lying, morphing, etc.) and if drugs were involved they were the icing on the cake to create the perfect monster capable of..... you know what.

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Woe.be.gone said:

Maybe the friend (AD) or friends (AH and AD) know more than they wish they knew. Simple as that. I know I would be scared if:runaway: all of a sudden I was knee deep in like this!

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Woe.be.gone said:

I didn't know the cow patty part. Just thought they were psycedelic mushrooms. Had I known that, I never would have tried um.

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Pink Panther said:

Have I mentioned lately what an ijut I think this woman is??? Given that I am allowed to express my opinion here I would also like to add that if she thinks she's pretty, she's a lucky gal. She's living in her illusions of grandeur. MOO


"a.n.n.i.e 4 dayssss!!!!! p.s. hating me wont make you pretty. [RIP CAYLEE MARIE]"

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MAMABEAR said:

Am sure there are drugs floatin around with the kids in Fla. They are here in Pa and there was in Tx. Peeps don't even hid it like one would think they would/should. I member the place where I chased the drug dealer down the road (on foot)---I could drive thru town and the G/K's (7 and 15) would tell me where the meth labs were. One was 3 houses away and I was afraid they would blow up the neighborhood. Anyway, I would guess that most of these kids use some of the drugs. I have seen the bottom of the barrel in the drug world and the player I have seen, in this case aren't on the bottom. I would venture to say that IF any of them sell it----it is just small change to get their drugs free. Buy it---keep some for yourself and sell the left over, type of thang.

I know that some of you are probably sittin there with your mouths open in shock but the ones of you who have seen what I have, would probably agree wid me. These kids are scared, as Woe.be.gone said. Thus the lawyers. I can't blame them for that. In our own day we had the popular crap we did. So do they.

But I sure would like to know what AH knows or what she was told. Is she on Morgan's list?

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Searchfortruth said:

WOW MB, you are shocking me ! I think you've been holding back on us !

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The World According said:

It was possible that she looked up chloriform , being curious about having seen Ricardo's image "Win her over with Chloriform" on his computer, just to find out what the heck. If there was just the one search, and not the searches for household weapons and neck breaking...... and the trunk having evidence of chloriform, I could have held out hope it was an accident like her brother, boyfriends and best girlfriends all hoped. I still think her parents think it was an accident and that is why they are cutting her so much slack. They know KC is responsible, they just don't think it was cold blooded murder, they think it was an accident and she is too scared to admit it. Lee as much as said so when talking to Tony. How they reconcile the computer searches I do not know, and the trunk evidence they understand is irrefutable, but they are hoping and praying the dream team can convince a jury otherwise, as they did in the OJ Simpson case, and in the first Phil Spector case. By the time a year and half passes loyalties may change and someone may come forward.

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DAWN TREADER said:

At times, I can't help but wonder if the only thing KC might actually fear is Cindy. She certainly didn't seem fearful or even worried in the presence of law enforcement even as she admitted lying to them. More like supreme indifference. "Uh-Huh". YAWN. Got gum?

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