TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #34

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"A fitness trainer and mother of three was murdered in a Dallas-area church Monday morning by a man wearing SWAT gear, police said."

"Boot camp-style exercise class participants who showed up at the Creekside Church of Christ in Midlothian, Tex., around 5 a.m. found their instructor Terri “Missy” Bevers, 45, dead, according to the Midlothian Police Department."

"Fitness trainer Terri (Missy) Bevers, 45, was killed early Monday just before her boot-camp style class, police said. Participants in the Camp Gladiator class found her dead when they arrived to a Midlothian, Tex., church for the workout."

"Police Chief Carl Smith said a man wearing what looked like a tactical helmet, gloves and a heavy vest with "POLICE" written on it could be seen in security camera footage from the E. U.S. Highway 287 church just before Bevers arrived. The department released the 4 a.m. footage Monday afternoon, though Smith said no cameras captured the attack."

MEDIA & TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

LE Update/Presser on April 22, 2016


Link to Midlothian Police Department facebook page
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Images (still and video) from the church featuring the perp can be seen here.


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CERTAIN BEHAVIORS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!


Dear Websleuths Members,

We are going to apply common sense to the Missy Bever's discussion.

You all have really done some amazing sleuthing in the Bever's case. Thank you for putting forth the effort to bring us interesting and helpful posts.

From now on if a member disrupts the thread in any way they will be timed out or banned.

Disrupting the thread could be anything from hitting the alert button over and over on posts that do not violate our TOS, to trying to disrupt members who are discussing a scenario that you disagree with, to arguing over something so minor that it makes me want to rip my eyeballs out of my head in frustration.

Here is an example: No more arguments over "shards of glass" VS "broken glass" LE referenced.

No outright accusations against specific individuals but very general broad speculation or theorizing will be allowed.

The last word from LE was a long time ago and was that none of the persons listed in the search warrants that have been released are suspects "at this time"

We all know that is
doublespeak for we are not willing to name any of them POI or suspect RIGHT NOW.

So a general speculation of "I still find the husband's statements odd, his demeanor off. Something is not right there" are fine. While statements like "BB did it, I mean come on, his wife was sleeping around and it's almost always the husband or boyfriend" are over the line.

"I think this was motivated by jealousy by someone Missy knew, someone who felt threatened by her, someone with low self-esteem" would be okay while "it was that one woman [whatever her initials are] married to one teacher [insert initials]" would be over the line.

This should be easy to understand.

We want a lively and interesting discussion, however, we will not allow the Bever's discussion to get out of hand.

Thanks to
tlcya and beach for their contributions to this post and for their continued hard work in moderating the Bever's thread.

Tricia


Search Warrants

dry cleaner warrant - redacted
LinkedIn warrant 5-5-16
AT&T Tower warrant 5-5-16
Search warrant
 
This thread is now open.

Hopefully, this will be the thread where we see justice for Missy!
 
I would like to have MPD check to see who may have thanked BB'S posts on the day he left for MISS. specifically the one at the airport and then the
one at the Half Shell.

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I would like to have MPD check to see who may have thanked BB'S posts on the day he left for MISS. specifically the one at the airport and then the
one at the Half Shell.

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For what reason? What is your theory?


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For what reason? What is your theory?


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I posted a theory a few days ago but I was just speculating on the reasons he may have posted on FB re the weather delay in Dallas and from the Half Shell in Miss.(and I'm sure there are other good reasons why he may have but...)
he may have been communicating with someone without having to say a word about 1). weather delay in Dallas...may not make it out as planned and then 2). following it up with the picture from Half Shell indicating: I made it. Go ahead with what was planned.
(never writing the words as I have
but simply indicating to someone to proceed as planned.) If I was the one putting out the message, I'd like to see that the person I was "communicating to" got the message by liking it.

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No it's not said:
It was reported the perp broke the glass panel and reached inside to open the door. Yes, I assume therefore the panic bar was unlocked, unless there is an additional lock system, which again would have been to be unlocked.

IMO the physical evidence clearly says otherwise, and forces us to a different scenario and thinking.

We see a kitchen door that did NOT reflect a bash-window-and-push-bar experience. Instead, it shows that the lock itself had to be pried and twisted and perhaps the entire door pried to facilitate access (which would not have been done, or needed to be done, if the perp had simply walked up, bashed in the window, and reached through the opening to push open the door via the panic bar).

From that physical evidence, the story told by the door(s) is that the perp had difficulty gaining access. Maybe the damage to two entrances reflects that he tried two different places to try to get in, and had to work hard to find a way to access the building. While LE notes his entry into the building at about 3:50, maybe he was there much earlier, say by 3:00 or 3:15, and it took him quite a while to get in, who knows. In addition, maybe the perp was frustrated by the experience, making him mad at the church for making it so difficult, and maybe the capricious vandalism to both exterior and interior that we see flowed simply from being pissed at the church. Juvenile response, yes indeed, but this is a baby who kills when he doesn't get what he wants, so ...
 
I posted a theory a few days ago but I was just speculating on the reasons he may have posted on FB re the weather delay in Dallas and from the Half Shell in Miss.(and I'm sure there are other good reasons why he may have but...)
he may have been communicating with someone without having to say a word about 1). weather delay in Dallas...may not make it out as planned and then 2). following it up with the picture from Half Shell indicating: I made it. Go ahead with what was planned.
(never writing the words as I have
but simply indicating to someone to proceed as planned.) If I was the one putting out the message, I'd like to see that the person I was "communicating to" got the message by liking it.

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It would seem risky and dumb for the hit man to "like" a post from the night before, after all the subterfuge to make it look like BB had nothing to do with it and to carefully plan the hit.

But as a companion to your theory, a better suggestion might be for MPD to look at BB's post on March 6 or March 7 about Randy Meisner's wife dying In a freak accident. It would be interesting to see who liked THAT post.


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It would seem risky and dumb for the hit man to "like" a post from the night before, after all the subterfuge to make it look like BB had nothing to do with it and to carefully plan the hit.

But as a companion to your theory, a better suggestion might be for MPD to look at BB's post on March 6 or March 7 about Randy Meisner's wife dying In a freak accident. It would be interesting to see who liked THAT post.


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This is all speculation: Maybe the hit man and or BB weren't/aren't terribly smart, or they thought it would never become an issue. After all, I didn't start to become uncomfortable about BB possibly being involved until a few days ago when a few light bulbs lit up.
And yes, as a companion theory but not necessarily a better one would be to check the responses on the Eagle's theory but why would a hit man be compelled to answer that? No reason to. I think BB may have been laying a little groundwork at that time.

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IMO the physical evidence clearly says otherwise, and forces us to a different scenario and thinking.

We see a kitchen door that did NOT reflect a bash-window-and-push-bar experience. Instead, it shows that the lock itself had to be pried and twisted and perhaps the entire door pried to facilitate access (which would not have been done, or needed to be done, if the perp had simply walked up, bashed in the window, and reached through the opening to push open the door via the panic bar).

From that physical evidence, the story told by the door(s) is that the perp had difficulty gaining access. Maybe the damage to two entrances reflects that he tried two different places to try to get in, and had to work hard to find a way to access the building. While LE notes his entry into the building at about 3:50, maybe he was there much earlier, say by 3:00 or 3:15, and it took him quite a while to get in, who knows. In addition, maybe the perp was frustrated by the experience, making him mad at the church for making it so difficult, and maybe the capricious vandalism to both exterior and interior that we see flowed simply from being pissed at the church. Juvenile response, yes indeed, but this is a baby who kills when he doesn't get what he wants, so ...

Agree with everything, except he didn't make entry into the building at 3:50. LE said he is first seen on camera at 3:50. And we know from what LE told BB and which he relayed in one of his first interviews, that the perp spent "a few minutes" in the kitchen. I am still unclear on how LE knows how many minutes he spent in the kitchen since it's off camera. Do you have any thoughts on that?


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Agree with everything, except he didn't make entry into the building at 3:50. LE said he is first seen on camera at 3:50. And we know from what LE told BB and which he relayed in one of his first interviews, that the perp spent "a few minutes" in the kitchen. I am still unclear on how LE knows how many minutes he spent in the kitchen since it's off camera. Do you have any thoughts on that?


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Perhaps SWFA's cameras detected a car's headlights pulling in to the church parking lot? It wouldn't pinpoint the kitchen per se, but if the SP wasn't seen anywhere else it might be assumed that he/she was in the kitchen.
 
This is all speculation: Maybe the hit man and or BB weren't/aren't terribly smart, or they thought it would never become an issue. After all, I didn't start to become uncomfortable about BB possibly being involved until a few days ago when a few light bulbs lit up.
And yes, as a companion theory but not necessarily a better one would be to check the responses on the Eagle's theory but why would a hit man be compelled to answer that? No reason to. I think BB may have been laying a little groundwork at that time.

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RBBM

I was a fence straddler for several weeks, and to an extent, I still am. When MB's thread was closed over the long July 4th weekend, I spent some time digging deeper into my own theories. I uncovered a few things that are really hard to ignore, and when combined with the things that we know, it's a fairly compelling tale. Until I am presented with a more compelling theory, BB's extended family is at the top of my list. Having said that, I am not going to be shocked if BB's family isn't involved, but it's my top theory. And I pray with every bone in my body that I am wrong.

Other leading theories - corrupt LE/FF (this is my second leading theory), a camper (no motive but would have been in a position to know MB's movements... a lot more skeptical on this one), a scorned church member, or old family friends where the relationship became a bit more "friendly."

As I have said before, the only things that would shock me in this case are a random attack or a B&E gone awry.

ETA - I forgot to quote SteveS, but I think that SP was at CoC well ahead of 3:50, the time he was first seen on camera.
 
It would seem risky and dumb for the hit man to "like" a post from the night before, after all the subterfuge to make it look like BB had nothing to do with it and to carefully plan the hit.

But as a companion to your theory, a better suggestion might be for MPD to look at BB's post on March 6 or March 7 about Randy Meisner's wife dying In a freak accident. It would be interesting to see who liked THAT post.


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I think that both of your posts are very plausible and deserve to be looked into. And, yes, I have seen many incredibly stupid criminals in my lifetime.
 
RBBM

I was a fence straddler for several weeks, and to an extent, I still am. When MB's thread was closed over the long July 4th weekend, I spent some time digging deeper into my own theories. I uncovered a few things that are really hard to ignore, and when combined with the things that we know, it's a fairly compelling tale. Until I am presented with a more compelling theory, BB's extended family is at the top of my list. Having said that, I am not going to be shocked if BB's family isn't involved, but it's my top theory. And I pray with every bone in my body that I am wrong.

Other leading theories - corrupt LE/FF (this is my second leading theory), a camper (no motive but would have been in a position to know MB's movements... a lot more skeptical on this one), a scorned church member, or old family friends where the relationship became a bit more "friendly."

As I have said before, the only things that would shock me in this case are a random attack or a B&E gone awry.

ETA - I forgot to quote SteveS, but I think that SP was at CoC well ahead of 3:50, the time he was first seen on camera.
Can you share what you unearthed over the 4th?

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I think that both of your posts are very plausible and deserve to be looked into. And, yes, I have seen many incredibly stupid criminals in my lifetime.

Certainly. But the thread running through so many posts here is an assumption that is opposite of that - assumption being that the murderer(s) is/are intelligent and cunning with meticulous attention to detail.

So my point was just that if BB had someone do this, I wouldn't think they would be dumb enough to tie themselves to him by liking his FB post the night before.


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IMO the physical evidence clearly says otherwise, and forces us to a different scenario and thinking.

We see a kitchen door that did NOT reflect a bash-window-and-push-bar experience. Instead, it shows that the lock itself had to be pried and twisted and perhaps the entire door pried to facilitate access (which would not have been done, or needed to be done, if the perp had simply walked up, bashed in the window, and reached through the opening to push open the door via the panic bar).

From that physical evidence, the story told by the door(s) is that the perp had difficulty gaining access. Maybe the damage to two entrances reflects that he tried two different places to try to get in, and had to work hard to find a way to access the building. While LE notes his entry into the building at about 3:50, maybe he was there much earlier, say by 3:00 or 3:15, and it took him quite a while to get in, who knows. In addition, maybe the perp was frustrated by the experience, making him mad at the church for making it so difficult, and maybe the capricious vandalism to both exterior and interior that we see flowed simply from being pissed at the church. Juvenile response, yes indeed, but this is a baby who kills when he doesn't get what he wants, so ...

presser from April 18th, as wonderfully transcribed by "Galadriel":

'Captain John Spann: Again, we see him walking down one of the hallways, but presumably he went out the way he came in, which was through a metal door that had a glass window that was broken out. And, again, this is all speculation on our part that he broke the window and reached inside to open the door, but we also have a second and third windows [sic] that were broken, but we don't have any evidence that anybody ever went through them. They were just broken.'

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2ykkazqapxcvrm/MB 4-18-16.protected.pdf?dl=0

"Reach inside to open the door", that sounds rather simple. The pic you have in mind could be the (by LE) removed entire lock IMO. The point of entry/ exit ( as presumed and reported by LE) is highly interesting to me, as is the question (still), why the perp did not eventually enter through NE entry doors after breaking the first glass door(s). When did he actually break it and why?

Jethro, I think you are following a similar thought process. I am close to saying, the perp made a mistake here.

-Nin
 
I posted a theory a few days ago but I was just speculating on the reasons he may have posted on FB re the weather delay in Dallas and from the Half Shell in Miss.(and I'm sure there are other good reasons why he may have but...) he may have been communicating with someone without having to say a word about 1). weather delay in Dallas...may not make it out as planned and then 2). following it up with the picture from Half Shell indicating: I made it. Go ahead with what was planned. (never writing the words as I have but simply indicating to someone to proceed as planned.) If I was the one putting out the message, I'd like to see that the person I was "communicating to" got the message by liking it. Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk
I would think that would be covered by the Facebook SW. If they were smart about it, and there is a conspiracy of more people involved, then SP would not be having direct contact with BB but rather there would be an innocuous looking intermediary like MT, just for example, since she is the sort of close person who would be on BB's FB frequently and without raising any questions. This is merely theoretical and not meant to attack the victim family, just using the limited people we know of.
 
This is all speculation: Maybe the hit man and or BB weren't/aren't terribly smart, or they thought it would never become an issue. After all, I didn't start to become uncomfortable about BB possibly being involved until a few days ago when a few light bulbs lit up. And yes, as a companion theory but not necessarily a better one would be to check the responses on the Eagle's theory but why would a hit man be compelled to answer that? No reason to. I think BB may have been laying a little groundwork at that time. Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk
I agree with you that it would more likely be something more vague. The recent ISIS arrests in Florida involved some men chatting about soccer using pre-agreed to codes. Drug people and escorts do the same thing, talk about the weather or sports, and the Aryan Brotherhood has a very complicated code. I think the SP has been very successful so far, very detailed planning over everything. This case may require one conspirator to come forward for fear, or for breakdown of relationship with other conspirator(s), if there is more than just SP involved.
 
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