Casey & Family Psychological Profile #3

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It sometimes looks like some people SO want to see KC as a sort of romantic victim, rather than a preditor. Attractive young woman got her brains scrambled by the sexual preditations of the evil and powerful men in her family. So, she flipped out, in shame and guilt, and murdered the spawn of their twisted passions, forced on her helpless self for years.

Sounds like the plot of novel I saw at the grocery store with Fabio in a ripped shirt embracing a babe with a torn bodice, on the cover.

Still wondering if all these wild sexual speculations would come up, if KC was middle-aged and a dog!?


Well, the things is, OLG. You are an admirable, strong woman who climbed out from under a soul-searing psychological/neurological disorder. You know EXACTLY what you are talking about, from hard experience.

I think some people look at KC's pretty little face, and just would rather think she's a victim, than what she is- a preditor and natural criminal.

BTW-- Have a great time at he party! Don't do anything I wouldn't do!;-):blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:

Gosh, you are so right about what people want to believe.. they try to find anything "reaL" (incest, rape, bipolar, ppd, psychosis) to blame it on because they just cannot comprehend that a person, a pretty little thing at that, could just be evil.

I get most resentful when people say Casey may be psychotic and that may be why she did what she did. It makes me want to take those people by the hand and escort them to a locked psych ward and have them spend the day.. going to groups with and spending time with people who are in fact psychotic. I bet by the end of the day their minds would be changed about Casey. Ya know?

There is illness and then there is evil and society needs to learn the difference. You are a kind soul, Brini- your posts always make so much sense and are informative..I thank you for that and your kindness toward me as well :)

LOL about the christmas party- we had a blast- my husbands boss always goes all out and they are all a bunch of lushes so it's always entertaining!
 
Gosh, you are so right about what people want to believe.. they try to find anything "reaL" (incest, rape, bipolar, ppd, psychosis) to blame it on because they just cannot comprehend that a person, a pretty little thing at that, could just be evil.

I get most resentful when people say Casey may be psychotic and that may be why she did what she did. It makes me want to take those people by the hand and escort them to a locked psych ward and have them spend the day.. going to groups with and spending time with people who are in fact psychotic. I bet by the end of the day their minds would be changed about Casey. Ya know?

There is illness and then there is evil and society needs to learn the difference. You are a kind soul, Brini- your posts always make so much sense and are informative..I thank you for that and your kindness toward me as well :)

LOL about the christmas party- we had a blast- my husbands boss always goes all out and they are all a bunch of lushes so it's always entertaining!

I agree with you, there are people walking this earth who are just evil. KC has shown no signs of being psychotic or having a "break" from reality. She coldly planned and carried out Caylee's murder and tried to cover up the murder by saying the babysitter had kidnapped Caylee.

There hasn't been a break from reality. KC has always known exactly what she was doing. JMO
 
Some of the items I have googled drom the beginning that might help people understand KC behavior are: Forensic Psychiatry & the Adolescent Youth, Psychopathy & the Adolescent female,Forensic nueropathy,Hare psychopathy checklist. Many other posters have linked to many other sites that seem to explain KC behaviors. Sociopath behaviors: Impression management, Grandios sense of selfworth, Stimulation seeking, Pathological lying, Manipulation for personal gain, Lack of remorse, Shallow affect, Callous Lack of empathy, parastic orientation, Poor anger control, Impersonal sexual behavior, Early behavior problems, Lack goals, Impulsesivety, Irresponsibility, Failure to accept responsibility, Unstable Interpersonal relationships, Serious criminal behavior. I think that sums up most everything.
 
Yes to both. KC couldn't be so calm-appearing, if she was bipolar, IMHO. She could blurt out a confession, while in a hypomanic cycle. She also doesn;'t appear to get depressed, except when she feels threatened (incarceration), or when her ego is kicked (Tony "doesn't love her"). Situational, not cyclical.[/QUOTE]

I'm trying to keep my nose out of this because I live with this crap every day of my life, but I have to speak up here to the portion I bolded. You have no idea what her cycle is. In bipolar disease there are many different cycles. I was a 2-year cycler, my son is a frequent (not the proper term) cycler, and a friend of mine has smiling depression and I have no idea of his cycles.
 
It's estimated that around 10% of the population suffers from clinical depression, at some point. That's why drug companies spend so much money on anti-depressant R & D. It's lucrative!

Last I read, the stats were 20 - 25%.
 
Just reading through these posts, and this isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but a person does become a "victim" through sexual abuse at a relatively young age. Having seen some results first hand, I believe that's one way sociopaths are created - through sexual abuse when they are young.

There is no definitive answer to why there are sociopaths among us, so I believe my idea is as reasonable as those put forth by the "experts", some of which suffer from the same "personality disorder".

My opinion only, but based on close observation.
 
Yep What one lost girl said

KC and several others indulged their disorders to the extreme by murdering but her lesser behaviors are experienced by many people .
When you see it up close and personal - you never forget and instantly
recognize it in others.

Amy H will never forget and will walk away from anyone else who
reminds her of KC .

Bi =polar is a chemical imbalance Treatable with medication
Cluster B's ( axis II ) are personality disorders -

These folks are truly tragedies - they are damaged and nothing
can fix them . They leave a long trail of destruction and wounded victims behind them . There is no way to re-construct an entire personality we cant inject empathy, or a moral compass . It is absent in all of them, in KC to the most extreme degree .
Their victims keep the therapists office busy and full.


Not ALL people who have bipolar disorders leave a trail of destruction and wounded victims. This statement is quite unfair to those who suffer with BiPolar disorder and who have never caused physical harm to another human being.

At the same time, to say that they have empathy absent in all of them is completely incorrect.

Where are you quoting your information from? Is this your opinion? This is not factual statements and yet your post is coming across as if it is factual. You are writing as if you are "teaching" and what you are "teaching" is incorrect.

There is a huge difference between compassion and empathy. Because one is bipolar does NOT mean they lack empathy.

Do you know the meaning of empathy?

Were you aware that lacking empathy in it's entirety is a form of autism and those who have that disorder ARE NOT psycho or possess sociopathic tendencies?

Please learn the word empathy and emphathetic before making such bold statements.
 
In my opinion, Casey Anthony is selfish, self-centered, a narcisstic personality with an overabundance of jealousy streaks. I believe Caylee's murder was premeditated and with the "if I can't have her neither can you" sickness. I believe she was so jealous of her own daughter that her jealousy drove her to kill her. Just like she told Jesse Grund .."you love Caylee more than you love me"...and left him soon after. She is just one sick person and all the pscyhiatric diagnosis that anyone wants to tag her with does not discount the fact that SHE KNEW RIGHT FROM WRONG and she knew better. I hope they bring in the death penalty. JMHO.
 
Just reading through these posts, and this isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but a person does become a "victim" through sexual abuse at a relatively young age. Having seen some results first hand, I believe that's one way sociopaths are created - through sexual abuse when they are young.

There is no definitive answer to why there are sociopaths among us, so I believe my idea is as reasonable as those put forth by the "experts", some of which suffer from the same "personality disorder".

My opinion only, but based on close observation.

My experience is a little different. I 've never had an incest or sexual abuse victim become a sociopath. PTSD or Axis II disorders are usually what they evolve into. Though some escape pathosis.

I have had sociopaths, but none have been sexually abused. My worst was a serial rapist. I have one now who is 16, and has commited no violent crimes against people, though he is an arsonist.

There's a theory right now that sociopathy is a genetic error.

There's also a book by a psychiatrist that proposes that Bush is a sociopath. This based on his apparent history of late bed-wetting and animal torture. That's two of the three of the MacDonald Triad.
 
My experience is a little different. I 've never had an incest or sexual abuse victim become a sociopath. PTSD or Axis II disorders are usually what they evolve into. Though some escape pathosis.

I have had sociopaths, but none have been sexually abused. My worst was a serial rapist. I have one now who is 16, and has commited no violent crimes against people, though he is an arsonist.

There's a theory right now that sociopathy is a genetic error.

There's also a book by a psychiatrist that proposes that Bush is a sociopath. This based on his apparent history of late bed-wetting and animal torture. That's two of the three of the MacDonald Triad.

Isn't arson/fire starting the THIRD of triad? One of my socios was a great little starter of fires.

ETA, There have been studies done in prisons that show the frontal lobe is significantly smaller in many prison inmates. Whether or not they are all sociopaths, I'm not certain. Also, a significant number of serial killers have experienced head trauma in their youth. This is also thought to be a possible contributory factor. Actually, there are several more.
 
Now that I'm really thinking about it, I wonder if Casey experienced head trauma after Caylee was born, around the time Jessee said she changed. My ex-hubby banged his head and became a changed person in an instant and that's why we divorced. Neither of us realized what was happening at the time (he still denies it), but the trauma broke certain lines of communication in the brain (too lazy to get proper terminology right now) and it took a long time for them to heal. By then the stranger who walked into my house after the injury and I were too angry at one another to stay married. The sad part is neither of us knew, at the time, that such a thing could happen because of a blow to the head.
 
Gosh, you are so right about what people want to believe.. they try to find anything "reaL" (incest, rape, bipolar, ppd, psychosis) to blame it on because they just cannot comprehend that a person, a pretty little thing at that, could just be evil.

I get most resentful when people say Casey may be psychotic and that may be why she did what she did. It makes me want to take those people by the hand and escort them to a locked psych ward and have them spend the day.. going to groups with and spending time with people who are in fact psychotic. I bet by the end of the day their minds would be changed about Casey. Ya know?

There is illness and then there is evil and society needs to learn the difference. You are a kind soul, Brini- your posts always make so much sense and are informative..I thank you for that and your kindness toward me as well :)

LOL about the christmas party- we had a blast- my husbands boss always goes all out and they are all a bunch of lushes so it's always entertaining!

The truth is some of us use that psychotic word out of context...meaning evil and not the actual Illness..
 
JG said kc and him broke up because kc was so jealous of Caylee. kc said JG
loved CAYLEE more than kc...........imagine!
 
Just found this thread....You guys are smart!

Today I have come to the conclusion that kc is a psychopath. After hearing Jesse describe her jealousy...that was it. She killed out of jealousy. She was not going to let Caylee interfere in the relationship with Tony. She kept that guy hidden from her mom...no interference.

I had discountied a sociopath, due to not hearing criteria that fits about her youth. I am separating the two because that is what I am familiar with.

After looking at her websites and seeing her writings, she is dark...macabre-like. Her interest lies in gore and death movies. I see nothing light coming from her. She just mimics what she knows from other people as far as her feelings. She smiles to look pretty for the camera. She really loves herself.

She is a malignant Narcisist, Borderline traits and histrionic. The only problem I am having and maybe someone here can help is she did not plan this murder. She may have thought about it, but she is very disorgainized. Psychopaths are better planners than this. Maybe she is just evolving...?

What CA reported kc had depression in her teens, my thoughts were she was going through a Goth Phase....lol.

I also laughed when CA was describing kc....that was worth admission charges. These two are exactly alike, except for the macabre, Cindy and kc share the same personality disorders and they are enmeshed.
 
I have been lambasted on here for even mentioning the word: psychotic, and asked if I ever even spoke to someone who is psychotic???

Someone I know, who was able to function in society was prescribed anti-psychotic meds because he was abusive. Now, why the anti-psychotics?
 
Just reading through these posts, and this isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but a person does become a "victim" through sexual abuse at a relatively young age. Having seen some results first hand, I believe that's one way sociopaths are created - through sexual abuse when they are young.

There is no definitive answer to why there are sociopaths among us, so I believe my idea is as reasonable as those put forth by the "experts", some of which suffer from the same "personality disorder".

My opinion only, but based on close observation.

As I mentioned before it is a fact that somewhere between 40-70% of all of those diagnosed with Borderline personality disorder alone have been abused. Which is why, though I do not think it is the case, I am not willing to rule out that Casey may have been abused. Many people with personality disorders have been abused, you are correct. But- not all of those abused end up with personality disorders.
 
Not ALL people who have bipolar disorders leave a trail of destruction and wounded victims. This statement is quite unfair to those who suffer with BiPolar disorder and who have never caused physical harm to another human being.

At the same time, to say that they have empathy absent in all of them is completely incorrect.

Where are you quoting your information from? Is this your opinion? This is not factual statements and yet your post is coming across as if it is factual. You are writing as if you are "teaching" and what you are "teaching" is incorrect.

There is a huge difference between compassion and empathy. Because one is bipolar does NOT mean they lack empathy.

Do you know the meaning of empathy?

Were you aware that lacking empathy in it's entirety is a form of autism and those who have that disorder ARE NOT psycho or possess sociopathic tendencies?

Please learn the word empathy and emphathetic before making such bold statements.

I think you misunderstood the poster. She/he was not describing the acts of a person with Bipolar disorder, actually she/he was agreeing with me that it is likely not Bipolar because we have empathy etc.
 
I have been lambasted on here for even mentioning the word: psychotic, and asked if I ever even spoke to someone who is psychotic???

Someone I know, who was able to function in society was prescribed anti-psychotic meds because he was abusive. Now, why the anti-psychotics?

Many medications (not only psych meds) are used off-label. They are approved for one thing and it is found to help with other things. They are not approved to treat those things but they are still given and they work. They have found that some Anti-psychotics help with suicidal ideation, anger, mania, even treatment resistent depression.

My mother, who I have shared has Borderline personality disorder is on an anti-psychotic and it's the best thing that ever happened to her.

Claiming you were lambasted is a mighty large exaggeration.
 
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