I was curious to go back and look at links and see exactly "how badly" Ron was trashing CS because there's been some discussion about it and thought maybe I had missed something. This March 16th interview was after KP was on the scene stirring the pot, I "believe" this was the last interview he gave.
"Ronald Cummings, what do you make of the potential custody battle that you`re facing on top of everything else?
RONALD CUMMINGS: I think that it`s absolutely and utterly ridiculous. All it does is take the focus off of my daughter being gone and put the focus on, Oh, let`s see who can get custody.
GRACE: Now, let me ask you, this Ronald. Your wife -- your former wife -- well, the mother of the children -- hasn`t had custody in how long?
(snipped conversation regarding the fact they were never married)
RONALD CUMMINGS: August the 17th, her 2nd birthday, is when I took physical custody of the children. And I was granted custody of the children in December of `05, and I do have the court paperwork to prove it.
GRACE: Now, Ronald, they seem to suggest that the only reason the mother lost custody was because she missed some court dates. Is that true?
RONALD CUMMINGS: Absolutely not. She missed her first court date. The judge gave her "wah wah" story another try. She showed up, lawyered up. And the truth is, I was a better parent, still am, better provider.
IMO RC could have taken this opportunity to vent all the reasons, truth or lies about CS that would make him appear to be the better parent. But he didn't. He gave this pretty "benign" response at the "height" of the battle. I have yet to hear him say anything "truly" nasty or bad, truth or lie, about CS in light of everything they've said about him.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html
This was another statement he made after the abuse pictures came out, again he doesn't slander CS just defends himself:
RONALD CUMMINGS: I had nothing to do with this. I`ve been slandered into a sorry father. I would say, in most cases, the fathers don`t get custody of their children. I took good care of my kids the three years I had them by myself.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/19/ng.01.html
Regarding the press release from his lawyers where they talk about CS being lazy and watching TV and sleeping... that didn't come from his mouth so we don't even know who told the lawyers that, could have been GGS and RC didn't even know about it...not to mention in the custody docs CS clearly admitted to staying in bed and missing Drs. appts. soooo can someone show me where Ron, himself, has trashed Crystal so badly?
Glad you made my point!..he never misses an opportunity to discuss his custody. He has yet to answer questions about why misty gets the questions mixed up.
You will see when he is asked about why M does this? he doesn't answer that question but adds "I'm tired of people talking about my custody....la,la,la..etc.
I never said RC was trashing CS, if you thought it was me, it wasn't. My point was he brings up custody and answers in full custody questions but never answers questions whens asked about why misty gets things mixed up and will deflect the answer onto CS and custody.
If you notice in videos, he says People are taking away from my child's disappearance and then he talks about the custody and what a better parent he is. Again this man speaks out of both sides of his mouth.
I was curious to go back and look at links and see exactly "how badly" Ron was trashing CS because there's been some discussion about it and thought maybe I had missed something. This March 16th interview was after KP was on the scene stirring the pot, I "believe" this was the last interview he gave.
"Ronald Cummings, what do you make of the potential custody battle that you`re facing on top of everything else?
RONALD CUMMINGS: I think that it`s absolutely and utterly ridiculous. All it does is take the focus off of my daughter being gone and put the focus on, Oh, let`s see who can get custody.
GRACE: Now, let me ask you, this Ronald. Your wife -- your former wife -- well, the mother of the children -- hasn`t had custody in how long?
(snipped conversation regarding the fact they were never married)
RONALD CUMMINGS: August the 17th, her 2nd birthday, is when I took physical custody of the children. And I was granted custody of the children in December of `05, and I do have the court paperwork to prove it.
GRACE: Now, Ronald, they seem to suggest that the only reason the mother lost custody was because she missed some court dates. Is that true?
RONALD CUMMINGS: Absolutely not. She missed her first court date. The judge gave her "wah wah" story another try. She showed up, lawyered up. And the truth is, I was a better parent, still am, better provider.
IMO RC could have taken this opportunity to vent all the reasons, truth or lies about CS that would make him appear to be the better parent. But he didn't. He gave this pretty "benign" response at the "height" of the battle. I have yet to hear him say anything "truly" nasty or bad, truth or lie, about CS in light of everything they've said about him.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/16/ng.01.html
This was another statement he made after the abuse pictures came out, again he doesn't slander CS just defends himself:
RONALD CUMMINGS: I had nothing to do with this. I`ve been slandered into a sorry father. I would say, in most cases, the fathers don`t get custody of their children. I took good care of my kids the three years I had them by myself.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/19/ng.01.html
Regarding the press release from his lawyers where they talk about CS being lazy and watching TV and sleeping... that didn't come from his mouth so we don't even know who told the lawyers that, could have been GGS and RC didn't even know about it...not to mention in the custody docs CS clearly admitted to staying in bed and missing Drs. appts. soooo can someone show me where Ron, himself, has trashed Crystal so badly?
This is a classic example of his double speak. I think most don't listen carefully, because this is not an isolated statement. This is a pattern. He is a master at this. You have to listen and read carefully.
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GRACE: Do you know where the cinder block came from that was propping the door open?
CUMMINGS: Don`t have a clue. I don`t mess with none of that, so I don`tknow. I very rarely am in the back yard at all unless I`m washing mycar. So it could have came from around my shed. I`m renting. I don`t know if the previous renters had it or what, but I`e never seen it, I
don`t believe.
GRACE: So to your knowledge, you`e never seen it.
CUMMINGS: Not that I believe. I mean, I may be mistaken and have seen it before, but I know it wasn`t where it`s at now.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/11/ng.01.html
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You can read the way he operates when questioned. He does this. He twists things up. Master manipulation at work here.
this is a classic example of his double speak. I think most don't listen carefully, because this is not an isolated statement. This is a pattern. He is a master at this. You have to listen and read carefully.
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grace: do you know where the cinder block came from that was propping the door open?
cummings: don`t have a clue. I don`t mess with none of that, so i don`tknow. I very rarely am in the back yard at all unless i`m washing mycar. So it could have came from around my shed. I`m renting. I don`t know if the previous renters had it or what, but i`e never seen it, i
don`t believe.
grace: so to your knowledge, you`e never seen it.
cummings: Not that i believe. I mean, i may be mistaken and have seen it before, but i know it wasn`t where it`s at now.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/transcripts/0902/11/ng.01.html
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you can read the way he operates when questioned. He does this. He twists things up. Master manipulation at work here.
BBM...
Anything that comes from your lawyer is from your mouth. That is how it is seen in a court of law. You hire them to speak for you. It is one of the first papers you sign w/ an attorney.So IMO of course Ron said it...
That is so not true. Yes, the lawyers will speak what you tell them too, but they also can speak for themselves. I believe it was GGS that had made that statement iirc .
After 8-9 years of lawyers they do speak what they want but only what has been said from there client and they add their own words. I do believe Ron would have said this. The thing with men as I see Ron, is they always put out a good front for anyone looking. If you dig behind the scene's they will get aggravated, they do not like to be "scrutinzed" so to speak. They will use distraction's in their words to throw you off.
I do not feel Ron harmed Haleigh in anyway but when he can use the words " Dumb Bi**h Girlfriend" with such ease, why would it be hard to believe he would put Crystal down in such a way ?
This is only my observation and my opinion.
It seems to be getting harder to post on the Haleigh thread , I sure hope we will hear something soon so everyone here on the thread can get back to sleuthing some new facts with our smiley faces on..
I don't feel that Ron, nor Misty, nor Crystal harmed this child in any way and that they all love her greatly. IMO, it's more probable that some other misguided family member was frustrated with one or both of the parents and felt that they could somehow affect this child by removing her for some period of time.After 8-9 years of lawyers they do speak what they want but only what has been said from there client and they add their own words. I do believe Ron would have said this. The thing with men as I see Ron, is they always put out a good front for anyone looking. If you dig behind the scene's they will get aggravated, they do not like to be "scrutinzed" so to speak. They will use distraction's in their words to throw you off.
I do not feel Ron harmed Haleigh in anyway but when he can use the words " Dumb Bi**h Girlfriend" with such ease, why would it be hard to believe he would put Crystal down in such a way ?
This is only my observation and my opinion.
It seems to be getting harder to post on the Haleigh thread , I sure hope we will hear something soon so everyone here on the thread can get back to sleuthing some new facts with our smiley faces on..
This is a classic example of his double speak. I think most don't listen carefully, because this is not an isolated statement. This is a pattern. He is a master at this. You have to listen and read carefully.
____
GRACE: Do you know where the cinder block came from that was propping the door open?
CUMMINGS: Don`t have a clue. I don`t mess with none of that, so I don`tknow. I very rarely am in the back yard at all unless I`m washing mycar. So it could have came from around my shed. I`m renting. I don`t know if the previous renters had it or what, but I`e never seen it, I
don`t believe.
GRACE: So to your knowledge, you`e never seen it.
This is a good example of why I think Ron can't do anything right in the eyes of people who want to believe he is a monster. Period.
CUMMINGS: Not that I believe. I mean, I may be mistaken and have seen it before, but I know it wasn`t where it`s at now.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/11/ng.01.html
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You can read the way he operates when questioned. He does this. He twists things up. Master manipulation at work here.
The above example can be done repeatedly with him.
1. It is repeated with the spanking (I have, never, EVER hit my child), then he goes on to say except when I spank her according to child protection services rules.
2. It is repeated with the bed story. He tells on video that they all three were in one bed; two days later he says a different bed.
3. Two weeks later, he says when asked why is the story so confusing about the beds?..RC responds: "I have no idea Ms Nancy"....
Yet he is the one who told it and told it both ways...this is another example of his speaking out of both sides of his mouth.
BBM...
Anything that comes from your lawyer is from your mouth. That is how it is seen in a court of law. You hire them to speak for you. It is one of the first papers you sign w/ an attorney.So IMO of course Ron said it...
What peaks my interest is how RC lets MC crash and burn when asked about her inconsistencies. Their interview on the Today Show, he could've easily helped explain it away with "she was nervous, etc." I'm also interested in his several responses to questions like "what do you think happened?" with his smirky "I don't know, I was at work". Those statements just don't sit right with me.