GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #2

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I am watching the press conference now.

Her jacket, boots and one grey sock were not with her when she was found. The jacket and boots were at home however the sock is still missing. The sock is a long grey ski sock style. It is two tones of grey.

He has then gone on to address the Hophouse pub CCTV footage and he says it was viewed very early on but it is not good quality (sounds as though he is using that as a reason as to why it has not been released).

He has then gone on to say that it is a complex investigation.

Edit: To say that the sock would fit a UK size 5 foot.
 
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[FONT=&quot]B/F met J/Y for lunch, she tells him she wants to call it a day, he’s very upset by this news, she goes back to work and meets up with her workmate in the pub, he’s told her he is going to visit his brother, the car is frozen, its freezing cold, better to stay home, but he can t bare the thought of the weekend knowing its all finished, so he’s going anyway, car won't start, gets help from the LL to jump start his car, starts on his way, the further he gets the more upset he is feeling, decides to turn back, talk to her, hope she’ll change her mind, waits for her on her way home, picks her up, she’s made her mind up, she is not changing her mind, things get out of hand, he can t believe what’s happened, dumps the body quickly on the side of the road, drops her things back in the flat, leaves for his brothers house, the cat (Bernard) was left without any food for the week end, so ate the pizza, the LL popped in to check on his property, saw the cardboard box and put it in the bin lol, I think I have a good story for a book now. [/FONT]

You were doing really well then until Bernard ate the pizza .....

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Lol Destroyer, I was doing well, just forgot the cats name lol, well nobody else thought of the cat eating the pizza, I thought it would throw a little light on a sad subject, two glasses of red gives me a silly sense of humour.
Whitedove.

I know if my cat was left in over the weekend with no food... and there was a pizza out on the worktop he'd definately give it a go.... cheese is one of his most favourite foods! However.... I highly doubt he'd manage to open the box and remove the wrapper.... and then either eat the lot or dispose of it... he's a messy little bugger!

On a more serious note.... just seen a press conference on the bbc news channel here in the UK..... they were showing a sock ... (I only switched over half way through, couldn't decide whether it was actually Jo's sock or just a replica.... it looked HUGE for a petite girl like Jo!) But the fact her body was found minus one sock is definately true.

ETA.... got BBC News 24 on a loop .... and have seen the coverage of the press conference again. It's not Jo's actual sock, that is in a forensics lab. The reason for it being so huge is that it is a ski-type sock.... that goes up to the knee. Which makes sense as the weather here for freezing freezing cold with a lot of snow around the time Jo went missing.

They are also certain that she DID arrive home on the day she went missing as her coat and boots are there.
 
Lol Lalalemon, some cats have got strange tastes, I think one sock maybe in the lab, but the other sock has not been found, they would have known this sock was missing not long after her body was found, I think they are a bit late asking people to look for it now, it could have ended up in a bin, or gone when the pavements are cleaned.
 
I was hoping for more from the press conference. I haven't seen much mention of the two people following her as recorded on CCTV.

As it stands the landlord told police he saw three people leaving her home on the night she disappeared. He thought one of the three people was Joanna.
For his trouble he was arrested.
Why? I'm not saying he was treated badly by the arrest but the police don't usually make an arrest on a whim.
 
Firstly Good Afternoon to everyone,

Well now we know Joanna was'nt wearing shoes/slippers & that a sock is missing which to me definitely suggests she was killed/abducted from her flat - surely they can tell by the dirt on her feet whether the sock was likely to of been removed at the scene of where her body was found ?

+ also it might be interesting to find out if Joanna may of had a history of sleep walking ??

+ is it possible the killer may of left some sort of 'motto' in the flat which indicated some sort of crime had taken place ?? Hence why the police/family always belived she had been abducted/killed at the flat early on ??
 
it seems strange to me that bf did not act earlier on returning to flat and finding cat going bananas...starving and presumably had messed on floor....

that ,plus non-returned texts and calls, would surely alert you quicker than 4 hours before seeking help....
 
TBH the cctv footage that the mirror has as it's headline there is no way to see who anyone is at the distance the people noted were.
the only thing for certain is that it shows 1 person closly followed by 2 people along a road she may have used to go home.
It maybe her it may not.
 
Viva the tabloids, they called it right. The Sun and the Mirror take the reportorial lead.

The detective said he was also keeping an open mind about whether Miss Yeates was strangled with the sock. (Mirror)

Not sure about that though. Keep an open mind, anything can crawl right in. Seems unlikely. A bit worried about the open-mindedness of police right now.

Last night CCTV footage was released of two people walking 100 yards behind Jo on her last journey to her flat [and] timed them 27 seconds behind her at 8.45pm. (Sun)

Mirror had earlier estimated 50 yards away and also 27 seconds behind. Not sure how one can be said except in the most literal terms to be "following" someone at that distance.

But police admitted they did not know whether the mystery pair had been following Jo as she walked home alone. (Sun)

Ah! Police can't be sure either.

Mr Reardon, 27, did not raise the alarm until the early hours on Monday, December 20, because her lack of a response to his texts and calls was not untypical. (Daily Mail)

Did we know of this "not untypical" thing? Hadn't heard that before. Seems to excuse certain behaviors.

A close friend said the retired English teacher was hiring a leading London barrister and wanted huge damages from the police for wrongful arrest. (Daily Mail)

We knew this was coming. If of course it wasn't him that did it.

Links:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...e-been-strangled-by-own-sock-115875-22827972/

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3331642/Jo-Yeatess-body-was-missing-one-sock.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344276/Joanna-Yeates-murder-Strangled-sock.html
 
it seems strange to me that bf did not act earlier on returning to flat and finding cat going bananas...starving and presumably had messed on floor....

that ,plus non-returned texts and calls, would surely alert you quicker than 4 hours before seeking help....

TBH it doesn't surprise me.

It would be the type of thing my b/f would do - he's highly intelligent but lacks common sense. He wouldn't be suspicious straight away and certainly wouldn't phone or text saying "where are you?"

More likely my dad or brother phoning up and finding me not about and not being in contact either would alert them to something being wrong. And my b/f certainly wouldn't phone my family or friends to find out if they had seen or heard from me.

I suppose it just depends on the type of relationship you have and the type of people you are - my brother and girlfriend phone and text all the time when apart whereas my b/f and I don't - he works away and it's not unusal to go a day or two without texting each other.
 
As it stands the landlord told police he saw three people leaving her home on the night she disappeared. He thought one of the three people was Joanna.
For his trouble he was arrested.
Why? I'm not saying he was treated badly by the arrest but the police don't usually make an arrest on a whim.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/30/joanna-yeates-landlord-watched-arrest

But detectives had been keeping a close eye on retired public school teacher Jefferies even before his claims surfaced in public, sources with knowledge of the investigation said.

I don't think it was ever divulged why detectives had been watching him and what evidence they had connecting him with suspicion of murder.
 
I don't think it was ever divulged why detectives had been watching him and what evidence they had connecting him with suspicion of murder.

I think it probably was, as Sgt Jones suggested on Thread #1,

Seems odd to me that the landlord appears on tv in much the same way as Ian Huntley did offering info...

If they were in fact keeping an eye on the old boy beforehand, it was probably because he was hovering around, trying to place himself close to the investigation, being a busybody (and possibly quoting Rossetti, etc. etc.). Just being odd perhaps. Plus seeking to back away from his original statement to neighbors about apparently seeing Jo leaving with other people.
 
I think it probably was, as Sgt Jones suggested on Thread #1,

Do you have a link to anything official or is the suggestion just speculation? I am looking for something that was widely reported or released by the police.
 
Do you have a link to anything official or is the suggestion just speculation? I am looking for something that was widely reported or released by the police.

Haven't seen a thing officially, or in print. The whole thing may just be a press rumor, or based on an overheard, "Yar, we had our eye on him from the very beginning" boast from someone.
 
It's been whooshed?:waitasec:

Yes, just checked - gone with the wind. Awaiting further developments. First the print that I copied and pasted was gone, and now they've removed the link from Top Stories entirely. False alarm perhaps.

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I found this interesting; police apparently a bit touchy these days:

ITV News banned from Joanna Yeates press conference
Avon & Somerset constabulary move follows News at Ten report critical of force's murder investigation

ITV News was today banned from a press conference by Avon & Somerset police after broadcasting a critical report on the force's investigation into the murder of Joanna Yeates.

Avon & Somerset constabulary has also complained to the media regulator, Ofcom, about what it claimed was the "unfair, naive and irresponsible reporting" of the case on ITV1's News at Ten last night.

The broadcaster's reporters were told they would not be allowed into today's briefing on the murder of the landscape architect in Bristol last month, but were given no further detail about why.

the rest of it at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/05/itv-news-joanna-yeates-investigation
 
The Daily Mail's report is still up including pics of the sock handover

Good find! Relevant paragraphs plus pix:

After the press conference, a man approached officers at the couple's flat and handed them a dark-coloured sock.

The man, who had white hair and was wearing a black and khaki-coloured jacket, put the sock he was carrying in an evidence bag presented to him by police.

Following his conversation with officers by the side of the building, he left the premises via the front gate, telling the waiting media only that he had been told not to say anything.

He was then escorted away by a police officer.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ates-murder-Strangled-sock.html#ixzz1ABTm9ujB

The two pictures:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/01/05/article-1344276-0CA7945F000005DC-573_306x423.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/01/05/article-1344276-0CA79BC3000005DC-767_306x423.jpg
 
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