Marthatex
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Hi, Pan. It looks like he may have had a stroke. I noticed the last time I saw him on TV that he had a limp and was quite heavy. He didn't look well.
Prayers for his family.
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Hi, Pan. It looks like he may have had a stroke. I noticed the last time I saw him on TV that he had a limp and was quite heavy. He didn't look well.
Prayers for his family.
Marthatex
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There are alot of interesting books about them, that's for sure. Some of them are/were really, really GOOD; and some of them were/are a mess or really, really bad. (the Kennedys)
But if you look around, it's that way with many families, especially political ones, and that way across our entire population IMO. Many have substance abuse problems.
Some "repent" and try to do good works to make up for it; some never do.
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Marthatex, I thought the same about his appearance.
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You ain't chiitin' about the books. I practically have a library on them. LOL
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You're right Malapoo - here's a link for that:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7523313
``He's resting comfortably, and watching the Red Sox game with his family,'' Ronan said. ``Over the next couple of days, Senator Kennedy will undergo further evaluation to determine the cause of the seizure, and a course of treatment will be determined at that time.''
Marthatex
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Well, lucky him....I'm reading Dr. says he didn't have a stroke.
(isn't it nice to have that fast-acting medical care our Congressmen get)????
Yes, a little sarcasm here; not everyone around here makes it to the hospital on time.
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We'd still be sitting (or seizing) in the waiting room. When I was 12 I broke my leg. We were in the emergency room waiting when a boy and his grandfather came in. Boy had gotten his arm caught in some sort of farm equipment (he was a teen but maybe not 16) and had a towel wrapped around it but blood still dripping on the floor. Nurse comes out to us and says we're next, we say what about him, nurse said we'd been waiting and he just got there - we said take him please and they did, but good grief.
Of course then x-ray was fun too - they took a side shot and then wanted me to sit upright and put my foot flat on the table for an above shot, told her I couldn't flatten my foot and she just grabs it a pushes it down! And THEN they said it was a bad sprain see my family doc in a week if no better. 5 AM the next day we get a call to rush me back in and don't let me use my leg (I couldn't it was like I had no left leg) because BOTH bones are broken and my achilles tendon was partially torn!!!! When they showed us the x-rays I could see the breaks!!! (Of course I knew it was broken as it happened cos I felt the bones shift "off and back") I was in a cast to my hip for two months and then below the knee for 3 more weeks seeing an ortho specialist regularly throughout - they were concerned about the achilles tearing the rest of the way.
Sorry to hijack, but it's kind of relevant to medical care variances.
Of course then x-ray was fun too - they took a side shot and then wanted me to sit upright and put my foot flat on the table for an above shot, told her I couldn't flatten my foot and she just grabs it a pushes it down! And THEN they said it was a bad sprain see my family doc in a week if no better. 5 AM the next day we get a call to rush me back in and don't let me use my leg (I couldn't it was like I had no left leg) because BOTH bones are broken and my achilles tendon was partially torn!!!! When they showed us the x-rays I could see the breaks!!! (Of course I knew it was broken as it happened cos I felt the bones shift "off and back") I was in a cast to my hip for two months and then below the knee for 3 more weeks seeing an ortho specialist regularly throughout - they were concerned about the achilles tearing the rest of the way.
Sorry to hijack, but it's kind of relevant to medical care variances.
Marthatex
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uh-oh; hope I didn't bring out a hornet's nest. I've just always noticed that our Congressmen and others have the most EXCELLENT of care; and do they even have to make payments for insurance? Maybe for their families; I have no idea.
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I wonder it's more serious than a seizure, and a full disclosure isn't being made.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356506,00.html
Dr. Jennifer H. Mieres, a cardiologist and associate professor of medicine at New York University School of Medicine who has not treated Kennedy, said a stroke may sometimes lead to a seizure or present itself as a seizure.
"It may manifest as a seizure in which the person will lose consciousness and may shake all over," she said. "So strokes and seizures can be linked. However, sometimes seizures can be a manifestation of other things, such as tumors of the brain. So we'll have to wait and see if he had a seizure that was unrelated to a stroke or possibly a mini stroke."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356506,00.html
Dr. Jennifer H. Mieres, a cardiologist and associate professor of medicine at New York University School of Medicine who has not treated Kennedy, said a stroke may sometimes lead to a seizure or present itself as a seizure.
"It may manifest as a seizure in which the person will lose consciousness and may shake all over," she said. "So strokes and seizures can be linked. However, sometimes seizures can be a manifestation of other things, such as tumors of the brain. So we'll have to wait and see if he had a seizure that was unrelated to a stroke or possibly a mini stroke."
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This giuy Howie Carr has an official website he runs on all things Teddy Kennedy. Maybe he knows what the diagnosis is.
http://fatboy.cc/
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You got that right Marthatex.
( If we had those same symptoms, I bet we would have waited hours to be seen, told to find a specialist and sent home.)
True enough, but this is one Senator who would not want it to be so for us...
just sayin'
;-)
Marthatex
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Well, to be fair Dick Cheney and others have gotten the same prompt treatment, over and over. I believe he would have died long ago without excellent treatment.
To be fair, there are places in our country with excellent health care. If you're lucky or well off,you have good insurance. But I've heard of so many that just don't make it to the hospital in time (with heart attacks, strokes), they wait too long themselves or the ambulance just can't get there on time. On the other hand, I know of many miracles as well.
Marthatex
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I think they have to do tests. He has had a carotid artery problem in the past.
Marthatex
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Read "The Kennedy Women" by Laurence Leamer; it has alot of interesting details and what all the women have done and gone through.
He also wrote about Johnny Carson, Ingred Bergman, the Reagans
Villard Books, 1994
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I'm glad he's doing well 
but I sometimes wonder if this could've been a result of another medical problem he had recently.
"In October, Kennedy had surgery to remove a blockage in his left carotid artery a main supplier of blood to the face and brain. This type of operation is performed on more than 180,000 people a year to prevent a stroke. The blockage was discovered during a routine exam."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24680994/
but I sometimes wonder if this could've been a result of another medical problem he had recently. "In October, Kennedy had surgery to remove a blockage in his left carotid artery a main supplier of blood to the face and brain. This type of operation is performed on more than 180,000 people a year to prevent a stroke. The blockage was discovered during a routine exam."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24680994/
Marthatex
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I'm glad he's doing well
"In October, Kennedy had surgery to remove a blockage in his left carotid artery a main supplier of blood to the face and brain. This type of operation is performed on more than 180,000 people a year to prevent a stroke. The blockage was discovered during a routine exam."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24680994/
Yes, Sanjay Gupta said they would have to do tests, and that he did have that surgery not long ago.
Alot of times that surgery doesn't go completely, well, or doesn't have "perfect" results.