Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 #20

Mani said:

MG - if you feel like a moron, then I will come and hold your hand and let's have a party!

Grannie - it looks like you and I might both be going to the town square to be pelted with cabbages, rotten tomatoes and lemon meringue pies.
Let's bring the dogs!

Greg - I am a Sassenach, swimming against the tide - get ready to pelt me with mangey fruit! lol

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Mothergoose said:

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Perhaps I tuned into this forum too late i.e. "when there is nothing new to put into the fact basket, then many theories emerge based on just rumor". Because that seems to be all I have observed thus far. Theories based on rumor.Then when someone new comes in with a different theory ......lookout. No offence intended I'm just trying to get a handle on this. My observation only.

:waitasec:

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kiwi50 said:

Yes I agree again, if he made that call it was way too early.
Something backed him into a corner, I still wonder if the police were there Thursday night, and he fobbed them off by saying she had gone off to cool down, wasn't a lot of other excuses he could use if her car was still there.
When Friday came, he was stuffed, nothing left but to say she hadn't returned.

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Greg said:

Lol mani....you're a pom???? (I had to look that one up ) My inner clown would never pelt you...I know that your a genuine caring soul, I've never seen you resort to name calling or put downs to try and make a point.

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bellgirl said:

If the Police had visited that Thursday night, maybe it was just after 10:00pm. Allison may have been murdered already and her body dumped/not dumped, but he told the Police that she had gone for a walk to cool down or whatever - that's where the story that she'd gone for a walk began. In the morning, he had to stick to that story of "I last saw her going for a walk at 10:00pm". JMO.

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beach said:

:lurk:


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possumheart said:

:eye: :eye:

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Makara said:

By Alison Sandy
From: The Courier-Mail
May 04, 2012 5:27PM


http://www.news.com.au/national/grief-for-lost-daughter/story-e6frfkvr-1226346331460#ixzz1u3wKeJme

Mrs Baden-Clay's best friend, Kerry-Anne Walker, has helped the Dickies in their ordeal and was at the search site every day. She was one of the last to have contact with Mrs Baden-Clay, texting her on the night she disappeared about her plans for the following day.



"That Friday was a busy day for her. She had a full-day conference in town and the kids were having a sleepover that night, so she would have got all her stuff ready," Mrs Walker said.
"I had texted her that day, the Thursday, and she texted me back that night saying she'd drop around on her way home from this conference .


"She arranged to drop some stuff off for me on the way home. So it was all a bit of a shock."

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grannie said:

Can you? Please try and tell me how it went.
Of course, a designated person maintains the account, but they do their checks. I even know how. Any one can subscribe to a popular account but not anyone can get a mutual "f-ship", usually. Anyway, given the publicity of the case, the Bishop's secretary had plenty of opportunity to remove GBC but they did not. My interpretation of it is that the BCs, in general, are valued because of their family background. No matter what they do, it won't be easy to sink them... as long as they are needed for something. MOO.

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possumheart said:

:eye: :eye:

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Mani said:

MG - I think this happens to all of us on here.
If there is a certain topic running and there are a lot of people on here trying to figure it out, it is difficult to shift their focus to something you might have an interest in and want to discuss.

There have been posts by me that people didn't run with and that's ok. They mightn't have hit the right spot for them and it's the same for me with their posts.

One of the newer members asked today why a particular point from the beginning of the investigation had not been discussed. Best not to take it personally.

Cheers

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Mani said:

MG - I think this happens to all of us on here.
If there is a certain topic running and there are a lot of people on here trying to figure it out, it is difficult to shift their focus to something you might have an interest in and want to discuss.

There have been posts by me that people didn't run with and that's ok. They mightn't have hit the right spot for them and it's the same for me with their posts.

One of the newer members asked today why a particular point from the beginning of the investigation had not been discussed. Best not to take it personally.

Cheers

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possumheart said:

:eye: :eye:

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whitechapel said:

TXT message from KAW to ABC
• How’s it going?
• What are you up to?
• What are your plans for tomorrow (Friday)

TXT from ABC to KAW
• Just getting my hair done.
• Feeling good about my decision to leave GBC (not sure when to tell him)
• Kids are on a sleep over. Maybe I should tell him tonight (good time if feeling confident and kids away)
• He told me it was over, but lied again. Can’t believe he won’t see what he is doing is hurting me and the kids “KAW – she told me things. I should have done more”

8pm
• ABC comes home from hairdressers, has a bath etc watches a bit of tv waiting to confront GBC.

10pm
• GBC comes home after night out with "friend"
• GBC furious credit card is declined and his friend had to pay for dinner. GBC sees her new hair colouring. Can’t afford the extravagance, business slow and still needs money to impress mistress.
• Argument, heated voices. Things thrown around (holes in wall).

10.15pm
• GBC calls NBC/EBC – says he got into a big argument with ABC. “She told me she was going to leave me. Called me names. She scratched and punched me. I was a little bit hurt, but I’m ok. But, I think I might have given her a love tap, but it was a bit hard.
She is unconscious or worse. I feel sick. What should I do?”

• NBC “Stay calm son, your mum and I will be over straight away. This is not the first time we have bailed you out of trouble (business financing/assistance). But leave it to us”.

10.45pm
• NBC/EBC arrive and see she is already dead.
"OK, let’s make it look like an accident. We will dress her in walking clothes and drive her out to the bridge. Push her over and make it look like she jumped. We can tell people she was depressed. We’ll leave her car near the bridge and we will drive you home."

• What if the neighbours called the police – she did scream quite loud?
OK son, I’ll act as lookout by the roundabout in case the police drive around looking for any sign of trouble. You take ABC and your mum will drive you back afterwards and pick me up. We can then clean up the place later.

11.30pm
• Plans turn to custard.
• NBC spotted at bus stop.
• Car spotted near bridge.
Better go with plan B. Dump body over bridge. Ring the police in the morning. Just tell them she went for a walk but didn’t come back.

GBC does some research when he gets home for a good lawyer. Might have called mistress for a shoulder to cry on and spilled the beans to her later, thus implicating her.

MOO, IMO, just based on what little info is in the MSM, with a touch of local rumour

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Trooper said:

If Gerard is innocent, why isnt he under a witness protection security scheme? Why is he put at risk, walking the streets of Toowong, up to his little unguarded office every day?? why isnt he carefully guarded somewhere secret, both him and his children, because if Allison was murdered by a someone else, his life is in terrible danger. He saw her last, he knows her routine best, he had access to her private conversations, he is now in as much danger as Allison was .

Surely?

He would, under those circumstances be the very prime witness for the prosecution, wouldnt he?

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Makara said:

Just wanted to throw this into the mix.

We know that TM was GBC's work colleague and has been interviewed at least three times and on one occasion for four hours. We know that she has been outed as GBC's mistress. There is nothing illegal in having an affair, immoral maybe but not illegal. Why was TM interviewed so extensively?

IMO there is fraud involved here (the Fraud Squad may also be involved making this case more complicated). TM knew about the fraud, or more than likely was involved in it up to her neck and has now spilled the beans. I'm wondering if TM has been offered immunity from prosecution for her part in fraud and not murder? Why was Charles Tarbey interviewed in relation to Allison's murder? Or was he? Perhaps he was interviewed in relation to fraudulent activities connected to C21.

Perhaps Allison had discovered that, not only was GBC still seeing TM, but they were involved in fraudulent activities and she reported it to the police. GBC found out and in a fit of rage assaulted and killed her. Police were now aware of GBC's illegal activities and were quietly investigating it when lo and behold, GBC reports Allison missing! That would make the police suspicious one would think.

MOO.

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