17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #23

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So they got the color wrong but the style has to be correct? Please.

Which is why I wrote IF she is correct in what she saw...eyewitness is generally the most unreliable....Until she is cross examined, we are not going to be able to judge her ability to actually recall the events and maybe not even then IMO JMHO and stuff.
 
Obviously neither of us has taken a formal poll, but I think most people believe GZ set out after TM thinking he wasn't going to let another a--hole get away, and GZ may have used excessive force to that end. But I'm not convinced that most people (based on posters here) believe GZ was thinking "I guess I'll kill a black kid tonight."

To the extent race is relevant, it influenced GZ's profiling, not necessarily his homicidal intent. (And it may well have influenced how the SPD handled the investigation, but that's a different matter.)
I do!
 
Not light colored t-shirt. White. Which is wrong-neither one was wearing a white t-shirt. I am not going spend my time arguing that a witness who got the color of the garment wrong (unless a third person was down there fighting) couldn't have been wrong about the style of the garment.

Not wrong, jmo. I'm not going to split hairs with you over a light grey tee-shirt versus white when the lighting was dim at night. I don't agree with you. j.m.o.
 
Wouldn't Trayvon's dad's fiance be able to identify him?



reposting a previous response: Here's the policy from the ME's office for Seminole County: "What is "Legal" Identification?
In every death which might result in criminal charges (homicide, DUI, etc.) a legal identification of the deceased is necessary. This identification is done by an acquaintance who is not related to the deceased and who has known him or her for one year. Relatives are not used so that later court proceedings are not overturned on a "technicality" of having emotionally distraught family members influencing a jury decision."

http://www.seminolecountyfl.gov/coms...x?ref=#legalid


Rather the same manner applied in MANY ME's offices throughout the States, as noted, MANY, not able to quantify this policy as for ALL. IMO
 
So they got the color wrong but the style has to be correct? Please.

BTW it is IMO not difficult to mistake a light or medium grey for white, in dark or low light while I am reasonably sure that dark grey is NOT going to be mistaken for white. IMO JMHO and stuff.
 
They are law-enforcement personnel though.
Exactly what laws do dispatchers enforce? Do they have arrest powers? Can they write a ticket or issue a citation? I would call them civil servants, but I'm pretty sure referring to them as "law enforcement" anything is a little disingenuous. They also dispatch FD and EMS, but I wouldn't call them "firefighting personnel", nor would I call them "emergency medical personnel".
 
Someone asked way back on page 14 or so, about if there were any witnesses who saw the whole thing.. I believe there was. I believe the person named "Jeremy" stood and watched the whole thing, and you could hear a female telling him to get inside on the 911 tapes. She asked him repeatedly to "come here".

Also, the eye-rolling that has been mentioned. That is common after a bad head injury. You can google it and find out more information about that.

JMO
 
Speaking of running, I'd really like to know how fast Zimmerman was running as he was hunting Trayvon down. From the 911 call, it sounds like he was going pretty good because of the wind hitting the phone.


~jmo~
AND it was over two minutes from the end of GZ's call to SPD until the 911 calls began - where was GZ for that amount of time? That's a lot of time unaccounted for on his part!

Concerned Papa has put together several scenarios with distances, estimated times and specific locations. None really account for the amount of time for either TM or GZ. Maybe as the trial happens - if there is a trail - we will get some answers.

IMO, JMO, etc.
 

I second your I do LinasK. Trust me, I was actually quite disappointed Tuesday when they announced they would not be using a grand jury because I was hoping for a first degree murder charge. I have maintained from the beginning that the moment that Zimmerman stepped out of that vehicle with a loaded weapon he formed the intent right then and there that this "a$$whole wasn't going to get away." I would love nothing more to see him pay for Trayvon's life with his own and the only way I can get past that is hearing Tracy Martin say we do not want an eye for an eye, we want justice, justice, justice.


~jmo~
 
Did GZ even have the jacket on during the altercation? IDK

It did look rather clean in the video after the confrontation.

JMO

It looked to me like it had just come out of a dryer...no wrinkles, or dark spots that would indicate that there was blood on it anywhere no grass stains, and the police officers escorting GZ were rooting through that thing like a pig rooting for truffles without gloves on...
 
While I do not know all the details about Sybrina and Tracy's relationship, I can't help but wish that they would get back together. Wouldn't that be something? I wonder if Trayvon wished for that as well?



~jmo~
 
LOL That is because there is no such thing. Everyone is responsible to report a suspicion to LE and that is it. Nothing more but listening to their instructions and understanding them would be nice. jmo
BBM

Your reply to that is to laugh out loud and assert that there is no such thing as a neighborhood watch captain? Huh? Is this an inside joke? I don't get it. JMO
 
AND it was over two minutes from the end of GZ's call to SPD until the 911 calls began - where was GZ for that amount of time? That's a lot of time unaccounted for on his part!

Concerned Papa has put together several scenarios with distances, estimated times and specific locations. None really account for the amount of time for either TM or GZ. Maybe as the trial happens - if there is a trail - we will get some answers.

IMO, JMO, etc.

I think we have credible evidence that TM was chatting with his girlfriend, thinking he had eluded GZ.
 
:please: ITA!.....and the comment of "we don't need you to do that" is similar to the standardized comment one MAY/might receive from a 911 dispatcher of "stay on the line" OR "start chest compressions by doing......" IMVHO, one calls 911 for HELP and ASSISTANCE, one would anticipate/expect/believe that the CALLER will follow the given ADVICE/HELP as offered. :moo:

The other thing is GZ always has the option of not obeying the dispatcher. Even if she told him, "stop following him" he still has the option of continuing to follow him. He is over the phone and cannot control what he does. GZ was hell bent on following TM regardless of how the dispatcher phrased it. He made that decision at the end and now he is sowing it. When you are an adult you are expected to have common sense. I would have never followed someone who I suspected was suspicious if I feared for my life.
 
It looked to me like it had just come out of a dryer...no wrinkles, or dark spots that would indicate that there was blood on it anywhere no grass stains, and the police officers escorting GZ were rooting through that thing like a pig rooting for truffles without gloves on...

LOL!! Seeing those officers pat him down, that pretty much sealed the deal for me about the lack of blood anywhere on him.


~jmo~
 
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