FL - 17-yo Teen Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #4

LambChop said:

I have sweatshirts with hoods. To me TM had on a sweatshirt with a hood. I would expect because of GR's recommendations about not wearing sweatshirts with hoods that now Old Navy will go out of business. Amazing. jmo

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someone ask what the 911 call didn't show up on Travyon's phone logs. This is what said about that:

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.@tanehisi @chrislhayes I have had cases where 911 calls do not show up on consumer viewable phone records. Not billable. Need ITMS logs.

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vlpate said:

Someone here predicted this was only a matter of time....if this has been posted, my apologies:

Trayvon Martin case: New Black Panthers offer $10,000 bounty for capture of George Zimmerman

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ack-panthers-protest-20120324,0,1231157.story

"When asked whether he was inciting violence, Muhammad replied defiantly saying: "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

The bounty announcement came moments after members of the group called for the mobilization of 5,000 black men to capture George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who shot Trayvon Martin last month."

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annalia said:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/24/n...-at-planned-trayvon-rally-outside-sanford-pd/

New Black Panthers no-show at planned Trayvon rally outside Sanford PD





I'm a little confused, unless I misread it, I thought the other article said that the rally with with these people had taken place. But in any event, hoping that maybe the family's representatives or someone got to them to ward off any thoughts or acts of violence.
There are new investigators now and better to allow them to investigate this thoroughly.

JMHO

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pkz said:

remember the 911 call that ABC Chicago news guy said Trayvon made? the one we figured was mis-speak?
....link many many posts back....this morning on MSNBC's Up w/ChrisHayes, he reported the same thing and later when questioned by some on twitter this was his reply:



also mentioned on show that Zimmerman was not talking to a 911 dispatch, he had another # to call for watch reports, and that Tryvon's 911 call did not go to Sanford PD but to 911 County Sheriff dispatch

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vlpate said:

Old Navy will not go out of business because no one listens to Geraldo that has any sense, especially the demographic that shops Old Navy. However, to be naive about the function a hoodie has in countless crimes is to put yourself in danger. The ones used in crime, don't normally have embellishments and are usually black, gray, or white. The hoodie is used to hide the identity of the criminal. Victims of home invasions, store robberies, and car jackings whose attackers have never been captured probably don't think of hoodies the same way you do anymore. And yes, 17 yr old criminals wear them too. That is NOT to say Trayvon should have been targeted because he was wearing a hoodie - I don't even know where that came from. Zimmerman simply described what Trayvon was wearing. I assume Trayvon had the hoodie on since Zimmerman did not initially know his ethnicity.

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vlpate said:

Old Navy will not go out of business because no one listens to Geraldo that has any sense, especially the demographic that shops Old Navy. However, to be naive about the function a hoodie has in countless crimes is to put yourself in danger. The ones used in crime, don't normally have embellishments and are usually black, gray, or white. The hoodie is used to hide the identity of the criminal. Victims of home invasions, store robberies, and car jackings whose attackers have never been captured probably don't think of hoodies the same way you do anymore. And yes, 17 yr old criminals wear them too. That is NOT to say Trayvon should have been targeted because he was wearing a hoodie - I don't even know where that came from. Zimmerman simply described what Trayvon was wearing. I assume Trayvon had the hoodie on since Zimmerman did not initially know his ethnicity.

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HiHater said:

I don't think the New Black Panthers/New Black Militia are serious, and that they are only trying to get attention for themselves and this case.

That's how I see it, and I hope that someone--Ben Crump, the Martin family, or Al Sharpton will publicly address these people and tell them to stand down...

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HiHater said:

Unless you can link to statistics of crime in which the perpetrator is wearing a hoodie, or to Old Navy's actual demographics, then this is irrelevant as it pertains to TRAYVON MARTIN. Zimmerman did know his ethnicity, he specifically said "HE LOOKS BLACK." That wasn't just a wild guess.

A hoodie does not hide one's identity, it covers their head/hair. If you were talking about ski masks, then you might have a little more standing.

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flourish said:

I suppose no one gets to wear wool caps, jeans, sneakers, t-shirts, boots, button-down shirts, parkas, dresses, heels, khakis, sweaters, turtlenecks, penny loafers, well....actually any clothes at all...because criminals come in all shapes and sizes and classes and fashions and fabrics.

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vlpate said:

Someone here predicted this was only a matter of time....if this has been posted, my apologies:

Trayvon Martin case: New Black Panthers offer $10,000 bounty for capture of George Zimmerman

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ack-panthers-protest-20120324,0,1231157.story

"When asked whether he was inciting violence, Muhammad replied defiantly saying: "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

The bounty announcement came moments after members of the group called for the mobilization of 5,000 black men to capture George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who shot Trayvon Martin last month."

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LolaMoon08 said:

I say we all go back to wearing leaves?

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HiHater said:

Unless you can link to statistics of crime in which the perpetrator is wearing a hoodie, or to Old Navy's actual demographics, then this is irrelevant as it pertains to TRAYVON MARTIN. Zimmerman did know his ethnicity, he specifically said "HE LOOKS BLACK." That wasn't just a wild guess.

A hoodie does not hide one's identity, it covers their head/hair. If you were talking about ski masks, then you might have a little more standing.

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LolaMoon08 said:

I don't even take the Black Panther's seriously? It's like the Ku Klux Klan? Who takes them seriously? The NAACP is who the family has gotten involved as they should have. I find the threats against an entire Police Department much more troubling than threats against a man who should be in jail anyways?

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HiHater said:

Unless you can link to statistics of crime in which the perpetrator is wearing a hoodie, or to Old Navy's actual demographics, then this is irrelevant as it pertains to TRAYVON MARTIN. Zimmerman did know his ethnicity, he specifically said "HE LOOKS BLACK." That wasn't just a wild guess.

A hoodie does not hide one's identity, it covers their head/hair. If you were talking about ski masks, then you might have a little more standing.

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