so what evidence does the prosecution have? That's the topic.
I think links to those items got posted in the Timeline thread. Today or last night.Does anyone have a link to the NWP training in Sep 11? Or a link to the Retreat of Twin Lakes NWP guidelines?
IMO, I think the fact GZ chose to follow in the first place would violate those guidelines; that he chose to carry a weapon violates those guidelines; that he played a role in scuffle and acted like LE violated CCW protocol. The NWP guidelines and CCW protocol might end up as part of the prosecution.
Trayvon's Autopsy Report.
IMO, it seems GZ wants us to believe that TM was shot while on top of GZ...but what if the bullet trajectory do not match that?
I thought this thread was needed so that we may debate the prosecution's case against Zimmerman, for better or worse.
so what evidence does the prosecution have? That's the topic.
I have been lurking on WS for quite some time but this is my first post. I can't see that this has been brought up yet but I have to admit I did not read everything (it would take weeks .
If TM was on top of GZ (as he and a witness claim) when he was shot, why isn't his blood all over GZ? He had a chest wound and was unable to be resuscitated even though emergency workers were on scene within a minute of him being shot. I speculate that he was shot in the heart for this to be the case. It had to be an obviously fatal wound for them not to transport to the hospital and declare death on scene. If he was shot while sitting/straddling GZ, uttered some words, then fell over, surely GZ would have had a noticeable amount of blood on him.
I would think this would be useful for the prosecution.
I'll tell ya after the doc dump tomorrow. :moo:
I have been lurking on WS for quite some time but this is my first post. I can't see that this has been brought up yet but I have to admit I did not read everything (it would take weeks .
If TM was on top of GZ (as he and a witness claim) when he was shot, why isn't his blood all over GZ? He had a chest wound and was unable to be resuscitated even though emergency workers were on scene within a minute of him being shot. I speculate that he was shot in the heart for this to be the case. It had to be an obviously fatal wound for them not to transport to the hospital and declare death on scene. If he was shot while sitting/straddling GZ, uttered some words, then fell over, surely GZ would have had a noticeable amount of blood on him.
I would think this would be useful for the prosecution.
Welcome! :welcome4:
The blood is one of the big questions. Not only does GZ not show any of the blood that might be expected from a bloody, broken nose and multiple head wounds when he enters the police station less than an hour after the killing, he doesn't show and blood from his victim.
In fact, GZ is tidier that I am when I am freshly dressed for a special occasion! And that, after he supposedly was in a life and death struggle that involved a lot of wrestling around on wet ground. I really wish I knew how he did it. :waitasec:
It's a puzzle I am anxious to learn more about! IMO, JMO, etc.
I would hope they have fingerprinted GZ's gun to see if it is only his prints on it. I would hope they DNA'd Trayvon's hand that supposedly covered GZ's mouth while the blood was pouring out of his nose.
Thanks for the welcome! I usually just read but I thought I might actually have something to add this time
GZ's statements. I believe he may have cooked his own goose, not knowing the non-911 call was being recorded, and Trayvon was on his own phone talking to his girlfriend.
Unfortunately, I have little faith in the investigative abilities of the SPD seeing as how they had made up their minds that GZ acted in self defense a few short hours after the shooting. (With Wolfinger's influence and blessing.)
I hope I'm wrong.