All About Chloroform#2

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This woman is a manipulator of the first degree. I'm still convinced she planned to OFF GA, CA, and CMA by way of staged accident. Stevie Wonder could see that a screw is loose in any of the Ants you can name.
 
What degree is TL working toward? (The question is actually not OT.)

There was a Full Sail registration printout in the trash bag in KC's car but I don't remember seeing the actual document.
 
What degree is TL working toward? (The question is actually not OT.)



Re: Questions for Tony L.
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2008, 11:51:30 AM »

Full Sail University I just graduated from the Recording Arts program and now im starting Music Business.
 
Not to break up the lovefest or anything...but I personally think it might be significant that any of the names KC came up with in her interviews with LE...she came up with on her own. ie...wasn't fed them by some fictious nanny and her equally fictious sister or other SODDI types. That is all I meant by posting what I did.

I do find it somewhat interesting that her bull.... boss happened to be named Tom Manley (her words not mine...) a name that just happens to be linked to the discovery of chloroform. Oh well.

Hope KC enjoys her pop tarts. It is quite apparent from all I have seen of her recent appearances that she has.

i think the name association is totally important. i would love to see the connections.
 
Pages 391-398 of this book are results of a series of experiments where chloroform was injected and inhaled by dogs and monkeys.
http://books.google.com/books?id=pl...Q6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=inject chloroform&f=false

With chloroform overdose, death is almost always due to the affect on the respiratory system (with the exception of asphyxiation simultaneously or being injected directly into the chest cavity piercing the heart.) . As the organ dies, the heart can still continue to beat after the blood pressure has fallen and respiratory ceases. If Caylee were still breathing shallow, or her heart continued to beat, this could explain the duct tape and why prosecution allege Caylee was chemically restrained before being taped.

Of course, it is always more concentrated when injected rather than inhaled. If I recall correctly, the lab report said it was a rather high concentration of chloroform, it was also noted they weren't sure how a 2-3 yr old child could ingest such a quantity.
 
Pages 391-398 of this book are results of a series of experiments where chloroform was injected and inhaled by dogs and monkeys.
http://books.google.com/books?id=pl...Q6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=inject chloroform&f=false

With chloroform overdose, death is almost always due to the affect on the respiratory system (with the exception of asphyxiation simultaneously or being injected directly into the chest cavity piercing the heart.) . As the organ dies, the heart can still continue to beat after the blood pressure has fallen and respiratory ceases. If Caylee were still breathing shallow, or her heart continued to beat, this could explain the duct tape and why prosecution allege Caylee was chemically restrained before being taped.

Of course, it is always more concentrated when injected rather than inhaled. If I recall correctly, the lab report said it was a rather high concentration of chloroform, it was also noted they weren't sure how a 2-3 yr old child could ingest such a quantity.

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In my mind I keep going back to the words I found at the BodyFarm,pertaining to chloroform and the fact there was an unusually high amount in the trunk.They stated it was higher than the body produces in decomp..I am going to take my computer to work tomorrow and have my Boss show me how to copy and paste such an article.I know I read it. As much of a clean freak CA. is,maybe she pilfered a bottle a long time ago and kept it for spot dry cleaning. I worked for a dry cleaner years back and it was commonly used.
 
This seems a reasonable moment for us all to take a trip down memory lane to revisit this (now locked) thread:

Stain in Trunk May Show Outline of Child in the fetal position. - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


...for which link I tip my hat most respectfully to JBean (see her post on first page of this thread). Early posts in the older thread discussing fact of no DNA/decomp evident in trunk liner carpet samples. Are these images depression-related only? How could we end up with such obvious stains on back of liner and wheel-well cover without decomp spill in trunk? Halp!


I am certain we have been over this and I prolly just need a refresher, but why is it impossible that this stain and the chloroform were a result of pool chemicals? I know that the Anthony's pool cleaner did not contain chlorine, that much I remember-But how does the chemical that they did use breakdown? How would it appear under "black light"?
The ladder stories, the extreme matting of the hair, the cadaver dog hits by the pool...there are a couple of other things that could still point back to the pool, though tying in the placement of three pieces of duct tape over the breathing orafices shortly before or after drowning Caylee is a little tricky.
 
resp. snipped Just Jayla:
I am certain we have been over this and I prolly just need a refresher, but why is it impossible that this stain and the chloroform were a result of pool chemicals? I know that the Anthony's pool cleaner did not contain chlorine, that much I remember-But how does the chemical that they did use breakdown? How would it appear under "black light"?

I thought I'd read that the A's choice of pool chemical, Baqu(a)cil, contained copper. Not only does it not contain copper, but is incompatible with copper and iron (known to cause luminol reaction), and some must use a chelation product to remove the minerals from their pool water. It'd be interesting to know how dissolved copper reacts with Baqu(a)cil-treated water if the chelating treatment isn't used.
 
So...anyone know if Casey watched General Hospital at 3pm on WFTV after George went off to work??

"Chloraform" searches were March 17 and March 21, 2008.


GH Wednesday February 27, 2008

Realizing that he was the Text Message Killer, Elizabeth tried to flee. Diego caught her before she got too far and dragged her into the apartment where he used chloroform and then hand cuffed her in the backseat of his car.

GH Tuesday March 4, 2008:

As soon as Nik disappeared out of sight, Diego stepped out from the shadows. He quickly subdued Nadine by drugging her with chloroform and then tied her to the bottom of an elevator shaft.

GH Wednesday March 5, 2008:

Spinelli tried out his new detective skills, but he was pretty useless after taking a deep whiff of a chloroform-soaked cloth.

GH Thursday March 6, 2008:

Nadine heard him making noise since she was laying on the bottom of the elevator shaft with rope tied around her and duct tape around her mouth.

http://sun10397.dn.net/gh/whoswho/nadine.php

http://sun10397.dn.net/gh/recaps/2008/080303.php

ETA--sometime in February 2008:

Sam manages to get free of the duct tape that binds her to the chair and tries to escape through the ducts but Diego set it up so it would lead her right back to him. Diego returns to the warehouse, uses duct tape to tape her mouth shut and bind her hands, and takes her to his car at gunpoint where he puts her in the trunk of his car.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Alcazar"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Alcazar[/ame]
 
So...anyone know if Casey watched General Hospital at 3pm on WFTV after George went off to work??

"Chloraform" searches were March 17 and March 21, 2008.


GH Wednesday February 27, 2008



GH Tuesday March 4, 2008:



GH Wednesday March 5, 2008:



GH Thursday March 6, 2008:



http://sun10397.dn.net/gh/whoswho/nadine.php

http://sun10397.dn.net/gh/recaps/2008/080303.php

ETA--sometime in February 2008:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Alcazar

Oh good grief, I remember that storyline ........ that would be something if KC pried herself away from her computer and phone to actually watch the show. Would be interesting to know if she did follow GH. Good catch AZ ......Anyone?????
 
So...anyone know if Casey watched General Hospital at 3pm on WFTV after George went off to work??

"Chloraform" searches were March 17 and March 21, 2008.

GH Wednesday February 27, 2008

GH Tuesday March 4, 2008:

GH Wednesday March 5, 2008:

GH Thursday March 6, 2008:

http://sun10397.dn.net/gh/whoswho/nadine.php

http://sun10397.dn.net/gh/recaps/2008/080303.php

ETA--sometime in February 2008:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Alcazar
*snipped for space*

:eek: I took a quick look @ her cell activity during the 3-4PM timeframe just to see if she was in the habit of NOT having extended phone conversations during the show's timeslot. :silenced:

In relative terms :rolleyes: she wasn't on the phone too much during this period for the 6/1-7/15 dates. Longest conversation she had that was started during that time was 17minutes. :talker: I did NOT look @ calls that started before 3PM and ran into the 3-4PM hour.

Perhaps Amy would be the one to know if Casey was a GH fan. No questioning in that direction so far.

:sleuth: Interesting new angle, AZ. :clap:
 
The timing of the cholorform shows fit, wow - good find AZlawyer.

General Hospital also airs on SOAPnet at 10:00PM ET five days a week (as well as other times such as five shows in a row on a given afternoon, for instance, Sunday I could watch the show beginning at 2PM CT (Monday's show), through 6PM (Friday's show).

I'm not sure if this is the same schedule that was in place in 2008.
 
The timing of the cholorform shows fit, wow - good find AZlawyer.

General Hospital also airs on SOAPnet at 10:00PM ET five days a week (as well as other times such as five shows in a row on a given afternoon, for instance, Sunday I could watch the show beginning at 2PM CT (Monday's show), through 6PM (Friday's show).

I'm not sure if this is the same schedule that was in place in 2008.

It seems like the kind of show KC would like...DRAMMMMA as she said in one of her FB messages lol. Reading a couple of the "chloroform" scripts online, it struck me that she even talks like a soap opera character.

BTW during the same time period in the show, someone's son goes missing and, of course, they try to find him themselves instead of calling the police. He was much older though--seemed like late teens from the storyline.
 
It seems like the kind of show KC would like...DRAMMMMA as she said in one of her FB messages lol. Reading a couple of the "chloroform" scripts online, it struck me that she even talks like a soap opera character.

BTW during the same time period in the show, someone's son goes missing and, of course, they try to find him themselves instead of calling the police. He was much older though--seemed like late teens from the storyline.

Evidence page 2695

Melich's narrative...

"Casey Anthony said she'd seen "movies and reports" of missing people getting hurt if the police got involved."
 
So...anyone know if Casey watched General Hospital at 3pm on WFTV after George went off to work??

"Chloraform" searches were March 17 and March 21, 2008.


GH Wednesday February 27, 2008



GH Tuesday March 4, 2008:



GH Wednesday March 5, 2008:



GH Thursday March 6, 2008:



http://sun10397.dn.net/gh/whoswho/nadine.php

http://sun10397.dn.net/gh/recaps/2008/080303.php

ETA--sometime in February 2008:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Alcazar

WTF?? How did you come up with that?? :bow:

To the first order, she was free during those times (based on the thin, available Photobucket data).
 
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