Steph Watts last-minute defense witness

i.b.nora said:

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Now, the business about the -- there's a pool in the back yard, and there's something about the ladder connected to the pool. And in fact, if you can just stand over on -- I've actually got a picture, so you can explain the significance of new information on the ladder and the pool in the back yard. What is the story on this ladder?

FUHRMAN: Well, it's interesting. You know, the grandparents are telling me that on the 16th, when Casey and Caylee are leaving that morning at 12:50 -- the previous night, Cynthia, the grandmother, and Casey swam in the pool. After they were done, they take me (sic) ladder, which snaps off, and then they take the ladder away from the pool so Caylee can't climb up it by herself.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,399183,00.html

Thursday, August 07, 2008

I would take that information which was reported at the time.

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Insomnia Momma said:

I think it's going to come too little and too late. Once the SA's are done presenting their case and JB finally is able to even call witnesses he's going to fall flat IMO! He doesn't even have anyone besides Watts to call for the DT does he? I think he is just mostly recalling the states wittnesses, he even lost most of his forensic people!

IMO by the time he even gets around to calling him the jury will already have ICA halfway down the hall to the death chamber.

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Marina2 said:

There seems to be two different accounts of what Cindy actually said about the ladder.

From Steph Watts blog, May 24th, 2011:

Steph Watts - But here’s what strange. I remember being in the house shortly after this story broke, myself and Mark Fuhrman. George and Cindy were taking us on a detailed tour of the house including the backyard where they let very few, other reporters in. They showed us the towering bamboo, the shed that investigators had moved, the gates and 3 other sheds that George says were always locked and most importantly the pool. It was an above ground pool, and Cindy commented, in detail that she remembers that she had left the ladder down the dy after Fathers Day. She was very clear about this as she stated that she always left the ladder up, so Caylee couldn’t get up it but she remembered that day that she forgot, and had left it down.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/


On the Record w/Greta - "Behind the CSI Return to Caylee's Grandparents House" 08/06/2008:

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Now, the business about the -- there's a pool in the back yard, and there's something about the ladder connected to the pool. And in fact, if you can just stand over on -- I've actually got a picture, so you can explain the significance of new information on the ladder and the pool in the back yard. What is the story on this ladder?

MARK FUHRMAN, FMR LAPD HOMICIDE DETECTIVE: Well, it's interesting. You know, the grandparents are telling me that on the 16th, when Casey and Caylee are leaving that morning at 12:50 -- the previous night, Cynthia, the grandmother, and Casey swam in the pool. After they were done, they take me ladder, which snaps off, and then they take the ladder away from the pool so Caylee can't climb up it by herself. Now, nobody swam in the pool after that night on Sunday. Nobody swam there on Monday. And then Tuesday morning, they noticed that the ladder was back up on the pool, hooked up, and the gate on the side of the house was open. So it's interesting information considering the activity that preceded -- you know, preceded that on the day before.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,399183,00.html

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Leila said:

I note that JB kept referring to the pool ladder being up on the pool (connected) on Monday, June 16th. But, according to what Steph Watts posted in the above article it was Tuesday.

In his opening statement JB stated that Caylee drowned in the pool on Monday, June 16th. But what Steph Watts says doesn't conform to JB's theory.

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i.b.nora said:

I believe his name is Steph as in the pronunciation, "Steff". I don't think it matters what Cindy might have told him. Afterall, just because he worked for FoxNews at the time, it doesn't make him more credible than anyone else. imo.

The story about the ladder has been repeated enough to enough people, that it just is a moot point, imo. And, it was told to the police early on, I think. Long before Steph and Mark intruded.

Cindy found the ladder moved, and the side gate unlocked. Probably on the night of June 16th. The day that Casey returned to the house and drowned little Caylee in the pool, and then took her out the side gate to get to the side door into the garage and put her in Casey's car.

Didn't want to get water throughout the house, so went the quick way. Then she left with Caylee in the back of her car. No one saw her. I think the "packaging" came later.

But what Steph says won't matter.

I think Casey just plain drowned her, held her head underwater long enough to kill her. I really don't think chloroform was involved. JMO.

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i.b.nora said:

Steph seems not to grasp the difference between UP and DOWN. He is totally confusing me.

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grandmaj said:

This is where Baez is getting it.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/ugly-things-secret-things-casey-anthonys-attorney-jose-baez/

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i.b.nora said:

Steph seems not to grasp the difference between UP and DOWN. He is totally confusing me.

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passionflower said:

I miss Greta ICA swam and Caylee was not in pool.
To hard to drown Caylee, no one saw or heard anything.
Very hard to get a dead baby out of an above ground pool, IMO.......30 lbs up and over.
IMO, ICA put duct tape on baby, drugged her and put her in trunk,
maybe already wrapped ip in blanket and in garbage bag/ heat / suffication killed her.
So ICA would never handle or see the dead baby.
ICA wouldn't like to get dirty.........
Just my own ideas

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