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Well I think his family will be called by the crown to appear in court so hopefully they will shed some light on his dysfunction. If you recall family said they had not seen for some time and mentioned how much he had hurt the family. LM's post online could be what they were alluding to, the posts against the family.

If even SOME of what was posted is true (and I actually believe some of it is - given what the one aunt said in the interview in the coffee shop plus other stuff reported) , they'll have some answering of their own to do. So far from what I've gathered, they are FAR from just the 'poor innocent' family stuck in the middle of this. And again, it doesn't excuse the crime committed, but as we learn more patterns of where these people come from and where the seeds are sown ... its the same stories over and over.
 
If you're a crazy, so am I ;)
I think your comment makes totally sense, it would be very easy to Magnotta to become a woman and fool everyone in his new life. Maybe that was his real plan, he didn't expect to be caught so soon, in his own narcissistic madness he was invicible, it would take years to be traced. Or maybe he just wanted to be caught, who knows... this case is like a plot from some movie, so many questions and possibilities...

That's just like Alexis Reich who was John Karr. Once again, LM allegedly used "Alexis Reich's" name to post the killvid. Google the name ..very creepy.
 
I promise you this is worth reading....

idk about that person...seems a little off her rocker to me even if her ex is also. However, the book she mentions, The Sociopath Nextdoor, is definitely worth a read, imo
 
Just a thought, but LM is painted by many here as being a "copy cat" killer by bringing elements of famous serial killers and movies to his own alleged crime. While I think this is true, part of me thinks that we only witness his copy cat because he utilized the Internet to express it. I'm guessing serial killers are all inspired by other killers/movies/books/etc. I don't think these people just wake up one day and decide to kill in a particular pattern; they are influenced. The difference here is that we aren't privy to seeing these serial killers' influences because that would require much, much more effort than in the case at hand.

Even though this bothers me and I don't see it as giving him any credit, by virtue of the fact that he used the Internet and made himself so well publicized, makes him somewhat unique as an alleged killer. If proven guilty, he is the first google bomber killer.

Unfortunately I fear this is going to spawn others to act out on fantasies or a means to gain attention. On a lesser but still just as disturbing trend, you hear and see all these videos of mostly kids committing crimes and then posting them on the net. They seem to get off on who can out do the last video and LE can't even keep up. Even LE is seems desensitized, because it is so frequent and often not proven easy to catch these guys. Even the original guy who reported this killvid, wasn't taken seriously.
 
RE: Gender Reassignment/Cross Dressing

IMO I do not see that as part of LM's psychological profile. I don't find his sexual orientation ambiguities as unexpected either. Often persons with personality disorders have sexual orientation issues and or poor boundaries. LM even has posts where by he self-describes himself as Borderline...and lack of boundaries and sexuality issues are very common among this population. Given the significant absence of empathy/compassion that LM has, I could see him at least behaving bisexually as means of increasing the amount of persons he could exploit. Psychopaths/sociopaths are adept at creating the vision their victim wants to see. It's always an illusion because they have no real emotional self to portray.
Often persons with personality disorders have sexual orientation issues and or poor boundaries.
I agree!
I think he was gay. A lot of gay men have sex with woman!
 
As an ex stripper I can tell you it's not all about fluid motions though that can help at times. Eye contact and charm go a long way. These aren't ballet dancers (male strippers). And most dancers won't be remembered. They hop clubs pretty quickly usually, fit stereotypes, dress up so that they don't even look like their normal selves, use fake names, often don't even make close friends at work, etc.

There's no reason not to believe he was capable of doing fine in the sex industry. The vast majority, while never big names, can make a decent living off of it.
I also think that he made money dealing drugs, however dealing does not lend itself to interviews on the job of the week broadcasts!
 
Well if you are the best: looking best model,person.dressor,friend,lover,escort you must be the best murderer too guys!
 
I think I get what you are saying, but I disagree with your theory about lying not being lying if you have NPD. That's like saying a compulsive liar's lies are lessor lies because of their mental problem. Let me try to understand... I think what you are saying is that their lies are relative to our own given the fact that we are normal and they have a disorder. Is that correct? Or are you just saying that someone with NPD makes up lies or embellishes to feed their disorder rather than lying just for the sake of lying, or lying just to harm others? I'm not sure there is a staunch difference. A lie is a lie despite the reasoning behind it.

However, I share your sentiments towards those who choose to believe the horrible and disgusting things Luka has posted yet they refuse to believe anything that might encite empathy or compassion, such as his allegations of abuse. Like I've stated previously, people only hear what they want to hear and only believe what they want to believe.
I did not state it clearly. IMI his lying served different purposes than others without NPD. It is a symptom if you will of the illiness. I did not mean it does not make them a lie in that context - its not lying to get out of something I guess is better. Its lying to build self up to meet the cravings of perfection the NPD needs relentlessly - does that make more sense?
 
I did not state it clearly. IMI his lying served different purposes than others without NPD. It is a symptom if you will of the illiness. I did not mean it does not make them a lie in that context - its not lying to get out of something I guess is better. Its lying to build self up to meet the cravings of perfection the NPD needs relentlessly - does that make more sense?[/
 
I am starting to question if he got too big for his britches!
Maybe he thought about torturing people and
started killing cats but when he
killed JL he got sick then chickened out in his grand plan
and is now trying to back out of things.

I get the feeling he thought he was hardcore because
he killed those poor kittens and then gave himself
the impression that he could be up there with the " big boys"
like Gacy or Bundy.

Then he actually did it and wasn't as excited as he
thought he'd be. Maybe was a bit disgusted but
followed through for " the fame"
Then got caught immediately and doesn't have
the guts to toy around how he set himself up to.

He probably had the idea he'd be messing
with police in the way that Hannibal lector
did but just isn't sick or smart enough to do it.

Just a theory
How would the mailings fit in here?
 
His only positive review as an escort came for your rating... :floorlaugh:
You realize that because of your post-crime positive rating of Magnotta that was done while he was still at large that you're likely on some sort of government or LE watch-list :floorlaugh:
With the exact time star placed duly documented in infamy! I was not here would love a brief recap silly..................
 
I think labeling himself as bisexual has a wider appeal to a wider audience in some sort of twisted way of thinking; if you're considered bi, then women might find that more appealing and want you too. IMO it its with the whole narcissism and wanting to be super famous. Some say James Dean was bisexual, while many said he was gay. (Makes me think of the South Park episode where butters is innocently labeled bisexual and sent to a place to fix him)
In some sense we are all looking at it aa a preferance like most reasonablly healthy folks. I am wondering if gender just did not make difference (the narcis does not really care about anyone). Like if he was "hangin" in the moment with a human being who has been saying how cute he is -- boom in that moment he is with her.....i think alot of his interactions were based on who was best at soothing his need to beaffirmed that he great . accepted etc etc .
 
If even SOME of what was posted is true (and I actually believe some of it is - given what the one aunt said in the interview in the coffee shop plus other stuff reported) , they'll have some answering of their own to do. So far from what I've gathered, they are FAR from just the 'poor innocent' family stuck in the middle of this. And again, it doesn't excuse the crime committed, but as we learn more patterns of where these people come from and where the seeds are sown ... its the same stories over and over.
In some sense we are all looking at it aa a preferance like most reasonablly healthy folks. I am wondering if gender just did not make difference (the narcis does not really care about anyone). Like if he was "hangin" in the moment with a human being who has been saying how cute he is -- boom in that moment he is with her.....i think alot of his interactions were based on who was best at soothing his need to beaffirmed that he great . accepted etc etc .
 
In some sense we are all looking at it aa a preferance like most reasonablly healthy folks. I am wondering if gender just did not make difference (the narcis does not really care about anyone). Like if he was "hangin" in the moment with a human being who has been saying how cute he is -- boom in that moment he is with her.....i think alot of his interactions were based on who was best at soothing his need to beaffirmed that he great . accepted etc etc .

As defined by the Mayo clinic:
Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they're superior to others and have little regard for other people's feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

Narcissists don't really care about anyone's feelings, but I do think he cares about how he is perceived to his public, otherwise why bother creating an image of linking himself to Karla, or the continual google bombing about how hot and famous he is? Also, how could he have an alleged connection with Karla if he is gay, that would contradict his own image making and cast doubt on whether or not he really was with Karla.

I'm not sure we've seen enough examples of his interactions with other people to decide if he hung out with people who stroked his ego, but I'd agree with you in guessing he probably would befriend ego strokers.
 
Does anyone know LM's last address and his prior address? This article is saying that police were looking for him at his prior address and he had just moved out. He told his landlord that he was moving to Toronto. In fact, he moved only a few kilometers away in Montreal. The move in February was abrupt.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...luka-rocco-magnotta-weeks-before-killing?bn=1

Sounds like he's been in Montreal longer than 5 months (??) Even up to a year from Feb 2011? Does that make sense? Did he stalk Jun Lin for a year?

No 411 listings for Luka Magnotta or Luka Rocco Magnotta. There are at least 25 for E. Newman across Canada. Hard to say which one is Eric Newman aka Magnotta.

ETA: I don't think he had a house phone. Also, I noticed the apartments rented were furnished and internet, utilities included which means he didn't have to register his name anywhere!ie Bell Canada or Hydro Quebec
 
My significant other just pulled this TedTalk up on video: http://archive.org/details/DavidDow_2012X

You don't have to watch, but the gist is that 80-percent of death row inmates come from the same type of background Magnotta has. Dow then goes on to State that statistically $1 put toward Early Childhood intervention saves $17 later in the criminal justice system for at risk individuals. Quite telling.

I don't believe that for one second. IMO, there is no effective intervention nor prevention for psychopaths.
 
Well I think his family will be called by the crown to appear in court so hopefully they will shed some light on his dysfunction. If you recall family said they had not seen for some time and mentioned how much he had hurt the family. LM's post online could be what they were alluding to, the posts against the family.

You may be right but IMO, if they haven't seen Eric Newman in years, I doubt they'll be called.

It'll all depend on the defence's strategy. If they'll go with mental health defence then perhaps his family will be called by defence and not the prosecution. If they go with he didn't do it, then I see no need to get the family involved.
 
Just a thought, but LM is painted by many here as being a "copy cat" killer by bringing elements of famous serial killers and movies to his own alleged crime. While I think this is true, part of me thinks that we only witness his copy cat because he utilized the Internet to express it. I'm guessing serial killers are all inspired by other killers/movies/books/etc. I don't think these people just wake up one day and decide to kill in a particular pattern; they are influenced. The difference here is that we aren't privy to seeing these serial killers' influences because that would require much, much more effort than in the case at hand.

Even though this bothers me and I don't see it as giving him any credit, by virtue of the fact that he used the Internet and made himself so well publicized, makes him somewhat unique as an alleged killer. If proven guilty, he is the first google bomber killer.

Unfortunately I fear this is going to spawn others to act out on fantasies or a means to gain attention. On a lesser but still just as disturbing trend, you hear and see all these videos of mostly kids committing crimes and then posting them on the net. They seem to get off on who can out do the last video and LE can't even keep up. Even LE is seems desensitized, because it is so frequent and often not proven easy to catch these guys. Even the original guy who reported this killvid, wasn't taken seriously.

I agree with you. This is the age of social media, youtube, horror movies, tv shows. I fear children will become desensitized to these crimes. Perfect examples are the reports of the children who wanted to see the video in class and the teacher agreeing to it. The other example is the children who attended the hearing.

I finally got to watch "We need to talk about Kevin" and one quote from the movie really made it all so real and I immediately thought of this case.

Kevin: It's like this: you wake and watch TV, get in your car and listen to the radio you go to your little jobs or little school, but you don't hear about that on the 6 o'clock news, why? 'Cause nothing is really happening, and you go home and watch some more TV and maybe it's a fun night and you go out and watch a movie. I mean it's got so bad that half the people on TV, inside the TV, they're watching TV. What are these people watching, people like me?

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0257260/quotes
 
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