GUILTY FL - Robert Champion, 26, FAMU drum major, dies in hazing incident, 19 Nov 2011

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FAMU Puts Band Director's Dismissal On Hold

http://www.wtae.com/education/29945613/detail.html

In Wednesday's announcement, which came as a result of a Florida Department of Law Enforcement recommendation, FAMU said that it had placed White on administrative leave with pay on Monday, "until the completion of the investigation and rescinded the dismissal of four students who received disciplinary action as a result of activity surrounding the Robert Champion incident."

"Consistent with the commitment of the FAMU Board of Trustees and President Ammons to be fully cooperative, we are awaiting the outcome of the investigation before any personnel or disciplinary actions are taken," said FAMU spokeswoman Sharon P. Saunders in a statement. "We are honoring the recommendations of not only FDLE, but the Orange County Sheriff's Office and the Board of Governors as we await the completion of their investigations."

More at link....
 
Bizarre. Three men in the band gathered together to beat down this female band member, who is now leaving the university.

Defies belief. Since when do young men band together to pound a fellow female student at a university in the US?

Loser men do beat their own women in a relationship, but I have never ever heard of a group of college men gathering together to beat some woman they don't have a relationship with, who is a fellow student.

Disband this band, already. :( It's Lord of the Flies time there. What a bizarre culture of bottom dwellers.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/justice/florida-hazing-charges/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
 
JeannaT said:
Bizarre. Three men in the band gathered together to beat down this female band member, who is now leaving the university.

Defies belief. Since when do young men band together to pound a fellow female student at a university in the US?

Loser men do beat their own women in a relationship, but I have never ever heard of a group of college men gathering together to beat some woman they don't have a relationship with, who is a fellow student.

Disband this band, already. :( It's Lord of the Flies time there. What a bizarre culture of bottom dwellers.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/justice/florida-hazing-charges/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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What mystifies me also is that the people willingly take this treatment just to belong to some club!
 
UPDATE: Three FAMU students arrested for hazing

http://www.wtxl.com/content/topstor...rested-for-hazing/hFhYBkv11kW6O-vbKXlXxQ.cspx


.......Thursday night, Tallahassee police arrested Sean Hobson, 23, Aaron Golson, 19, and James Harris, 22.

The three men each face one count of hazing; Golson and Hobson each face an additional count of Felony Battery.

According to a probable cause report, the three men are accused of hazing a fellow student, Bria Hunter.


This is good but I'll be glad when they start the arrests for Champion's case.
 
I will never understand how anyone can take pleasure/satisfaction from harming causing pain, sadness to someone else. What's worse, this seemed pretty pervasive at FAMU and for what appears to be a long time. What is wrong with people? How can anyone purposely submit another human being to this type of treatment?
 
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Florida authorities investigating the death of a Florida A&M University drum major say they have uncovered possible employee fraud and misconduct at the school.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement sent letters Tuesday to the head of the FAMU board and the head of the state university system, telling them investigators had uncovered potential violations of law as part of the probe into what is believed to be the hazing death of a Marching 100 band member. Robert Champion died Nov. 19 after a marching band performance at a football game.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/14/2545961/investigators-say-theyve-uncovered.html#ixzz1gX58HR5N
 
http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/163...uspend-all-high-school-marching-band-activity

not sure if this is related or not

The DeKalb County School System announced Wednesday it is suspending all marching band activities while an investigation of possible inappropriate activities among high school band members, alumni advisors, band directors and others surrounding DeKalb Schools high school marching bands is conducted.
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iirc the group that was doing a lot of hazing at famu was the red dogs (GA)... so not sure if this is related but found it interesting nonetheless
 
System spokesman Walter Woods said officials started asking questions at Southwest DeKalb High School because of connections to alleged hazing incidents at FAMU. Robert Champion, the FAMU band member who died, and another member, Bria Shante Hunter, who was injured, graduated from Southwest DeKalb. Two of three FAMU band members charged with injuring Hunter also hailed from the high school.

The system investigation unearthed some troubling finds, Woods said. He was not willing to disclose their nature yet.
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http://www.ajc.com/news/marching-bands-suspended-in-1260144.html
 
From what I've read, hazing with the band at FAMU has been going on for years. But it seems there is a connection with the HS band members have attended as well? WTH??!!
 
daisy7 said:
From what I've read, hazing with the band at FAMU has been going on for years. But it seems there is a connection with the HS band members have attended as well? WTH??!!
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one of the articles posted said "alumni advisors".......

wondering if any of the current people under arrest were alumni advisors?
 
nursebeeme said:
one of the articles posted said "alumni advisors".......

wondering if any of the current people under arrest were alumni advisors?
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Thanks for all the new info and links, Daisy and nursebeeme!

Makes you wonder what is really going on at FAMU...fraud and now out of state HS connections?

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Here's another one:

http://www.wctv.tv/floridanews/head...FAMU_Linked_to_Hazing_Incident_135514993.html

Excerpts:

Our cameras were rolling when two of the three men were released on bond Tuesday.

Officers say the students are members of Red Dawg Order, which is a subgroup formed by students for band members who are from Georgia.

McGuire says there are several organizations, or "regional frats" within the band.

Red Dawg Order is even a registered incorporated company and has spread nationwide to colleges with large marching bands.

Ricky Jones, director of the Center on Race and Inequality at the University of Louisville and an expert on hazing, said he had not heard of a case where a female had been beaten by males.

"This doesn't mean it's a first," he said. Since the band and its various groups admit men and women, mixed gender hazing might not be uncommon, Jones said.

The group that police say Bria Hunter was participating in was started in Tallahassee. Reports show that the Red Dawg Order originated with the Marching 100.

This organization was founded on December 18, 1994 in Tallahassee. A website says the basis for the organization is to establish unity, sisterhood and brotherhood for band members from Georgia at many different colleges.

Red Dawg Order originated at Florida A&M University and spread from there.


Deliver me from their version of brother and sisterhood! Will be interesting to see what Woods 'troubling finds' are...
 
(CNN) -- Florida Gov. Rick Scott met late Thursday with a group of several hundred Florida A&M students upset over his recommendation that trustees suspend the school's president in the wake of alleged hazing and "financial irregularities."

Chanting "We've got questions. You've got answers," the students marched to the governor's mansion, promising to stay until Scott changed his mind.

(snip)

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/16/justice/florida-am-investigation/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
 
My goodness, what a hornets nest they've opened! :eek:

Wow, three of my children were in marching band the entire time they went to hs. They didn't persue it in college, and I tried to encourage they keep it up. I'm glad they didn't now. I've never heard of hazing in band?!

What happened to being there to march, play, and just have fun!?

This looks like it's going to be a never-ending story.

JMHO
fran
 
An autopsy has ruled the death of 26-year-old FAMU drum major Robert Champion a homicide due to blunt trauma he suffered in a hazing incident, the medical examiner said today.

According to the Orange-Osceola Medical Examiner's Office, an autopsy "revealed extensive contusions of his chest, arms, shoulder, and back with extensive hemorrhage."

Though there were no broken bones or damage to Champion's internal organs, the autopsy found evidence of "a significant rapid blood loss" due to the injuries he suffered.

(snip)

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/feat...mpion-autopsy-result-20111216,0,3476923.story
 
daisy7 said:
An autopsy has ruled the death of 26-year-old FAMU drum major Robert Champion a homicide due to blunt trauma he suffered in a hazing incident, the medical examiner said today.

According to the Orange-Osceola Medical Examiner's Office, an autopsy "revealed extensive contusions of his chest, arms, shoulder, and back with extensive hemorrhage."

Though there were no broken bones or damage to Champion's internal organs, the autopsy found evidence of "a significant rapid blood loss" due to the injuries he suffered.

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/feat...mpion-autopsy-result-20111216,0,3476923.story
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Thank you for this! Now maybe they can start some arrests with the finding his death was a homicide...
 
fran said:
Uh Oh, looks like someone(s) in big trouble!

fran
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Someones is correct... it could potentially be almost everyone who hit/beat on Champion as he was walking down the bus...the percussion section if I remember correctly...
 
daisy7 said:
(CNN) -- Florida Gov. Rick Scott met late Thursday with a group of several hundred Florida A&M students upset over his recommendation that trustees suspend the school's president in the wake of alleged hazing and "financial irregularities."

Chanting "We've got questions. You've got answers," the students marched to the governor's mansion, promising to stay until Scott changed his mind.

(snip)

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/16/justice/florida-am-investigation/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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FAMU head keeps job during hazing death probe

Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...s-job-during-hazing-death-probe#ixzz1h7cFuMM0

The university's board of trustees on Monday rejected a call by Gov. Rick Scott that James Ammons be suspended.
 
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