50/60 year old Amnesia Victim Savannah, GA Thread #5

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I did not think I should post this in the resources, blogs, etc thread, but I wanted to comment about the updated Wiki on BK...

I think IMO there is a real possibility that he did serve in Vietnam, and that may be in fact part/all of why he has amnesia. Also, I have a friend who was a Korean/Vietnam war vet, and I asked him if he had ever been fingerprinted, and he said he did not remember being fingerprinted, but he was not sure. So...there is a possibly that he did serve in the military, but was never fingerprinted. If so, maybe he was an MIA who did come back but his family did not know it. I think we should be looking at Vietnam vets, as well as Vietnam MIA's. The following is a link to Indiana POW/MIA's. Some have returned, some have had bodies recovered, and some have not been recovered.

http://www.indianarollingthunder.com/default.aspx?oid=7065c6f4-3300-4f9a-8b5f-cc6467f1ea92


Here is Colorado's:
http://www.geocities.com/never_forget_them/Colorado.html

FWIW, he could have worked in Denver after he returned from Vietnam...

I also found a missing alumni list for U of C at Boulder for Computer Science 1969 -now
http://www.cs.colorado.edu/people/alumni/missing/

Of interest to me was a Jimmie Coyle from 1974--received a Masters
 
julessleuther:
IMO:
http://www.us-army-info.com/pages/enlist.html
re: fingerprinting:
"snipped respectfully"
The day at MEPS will consist of these tests:
Drug and alcohol
Color vision
Hearing
Blood (similiar to donating blood)
Doctor examination
Eye examination
Weight
Joint inspection
Fingerprinting
''snipped''

IMO: I do think all military personnel had to be fingerprinted.
But,
records can be lost, misplaced.

I have thought about the witness protection program.
FBI Bill K said, that Benjaman Kyle's fingerprints were
checked with the U S Marshall Witness Protection Program.
But, I have read that the marshalls may not always
be truthful, even to the FBI.
And I have read that state witness protection programs are underfunded and poorly maintained. (link prev. provided)

I like the way you are thinking!
 
I checked the CO missing alumni list.
Good clues there.

But, why did you choose Jimmy Coyle, 1974 ?
Is he from Indiana?
?
 
I received an email from NB regarding the 5 year anniversary of BK's discovery:
(snipped)
I am writing because August 31, 2009 marks the 5th anniversary since the man we have come to know as Benjaman Kyle was attacked and left for dead behind the Burger King in Richmond Hill, Georgia. That is only two short months away. Benjaman still suffers from amnesia and still needs our help in discovering his identity.

It would be very helpful if we could drum up some more interest in his case, such as television and newspaper coverage, America’s Most Wanted, Geraldo, Nancy Grace and any other programs that will result in national exposure. Benjaman is a very intelligent man with a deeply entrenched work ethic. Someone out there has worked with him. Someone out there knows him.

If you can do anything to help it will be most appreciated.


I have mailed letters/emails to the following:
Nancy Grace
AMW
Oprah
 
To Whom It May Concern-

It has been five years since "Benjaman Kyle" was located behind a Burger King in Savannah, GA-beaten and unconscious, badly sunburned and left for dead. Initially assumed to be a homeless bum by first responders, staff at Memorial Hospital in Savannah quickly discovered that this intelligent articulate man was suffering from traumatic amnesia. With no recollection of his own name or even a firm recollection of where he had come from, he has been living at the mercy of friends and former caregivers; a "Real Live Nobody" in spite of the best efforts of local police and the FBI to determine his true identity.

Mr. Kyle chose his name based on a belief that the name "Benjaman" held some significance to him and he chose the "Kyle" in order to honor the establishment he was found behind. (BK) His fingerprints have been entered into AFIS, his DNA entered into CODIS, his paternal DNA has been entered into genealogy websites and he has even been featured on the Dr. Phil Show and in the National Enquirer. There have been no solid leads that have uncovered his past and he is unable to work or file for benefits because he cannot prove he is an American citizen.

Won't you please help him by featuring him on your show or even on your website?

It has been five long years of struggle and searching. Five years of living off of others with nothing to give but his kind, generous heart and significant abilities. Please give him a hand and feature him so that someone, anyone, who may know him can come forward and end the nightmare of not knowing who he is and where he belongs.

Media Links:
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjaman_Kyle"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjaman_Kyle[/ame]
http://savannahnow.com/node/364434
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=147"]http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=147[/ame]
http://lostfacesofthemissing.blogspot.com/2008/09/monday-4-missing-benjaman-kyle.html
http://www.thegeneticgenealogist.com/2009/01/07/using-genetic-genealogy-to-solve-the-mystery-of-benjaman-kyle/
http://www.indy.com/posts/benjaman-kyle-wikipedia-the-free-encyclopedia
http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/1146

Thank you for your time and attention!

Sincerely,
Believe09
 
believe09, I've been "out of the loop" regarding Mr. Kyle. Does he want "us" to move forward with his story? I had been under the impression it had gotten intrusive for him.

I must go back and read some of what I've missed here- thanks for the update. Thank you also for the work you've done and are doing. :blowkiss:
 
Boyz_Mum said:
believe09, I've been "out of the loop" regarding Mr. Kyle. Does he want "us" to move forward with his story? I had been under the impression it had gotten intrusive for him.

I must go back and read some of what I've missed here- thanks for the update. Thank you also for the work you've done and are doing. :blowkiss:
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:blowkiss: Back atcha, BM...

I do not know the answer to whether or not our fine sleuthers are intrusive, but I can say that I received the request from NB to help initiate a media campaign around BK's 5th year anniversary. Once you get a chance to read the updated Wikipedia article, you may get the sense that the belief in his camp or at least with whomever wrote the article is that he will be ID'd by a member of the general public who knew him or by DNA match. I can also say I (meaning me, Believe09) was asked to focus on the request for additional media only at this time.

My fellow sleuthers are as always free to increase the scope as they will within the bounds of TOS, right??? :)
 
Thanks believe09. I would not want Mr. Kyle to feel intruded upon and I don't think anyone here has been. I'll put my thinking cap back on.

Would it be "okay" if "we" wrote/emailed letters to the same media outlets? For example, if more than one of "us" wrote/emailed 48 Hours or shows of the like, is it better to have more interest expressed regarding one subject matter? I'd love to see more about amnesia on shows like 20/20, Dateline, etc...
 
Boyz_Mum said:
Thanks believe09. I would not want Mr. Kyle to feel intruded upon and I don't think anyone here has been. I'll put my thinking cap back on.

Would it be "okay" if "we" wrote/emailed letters to the same media outlets? For example, if more than one of "us" wrote/emailed 48 Hours or shows of the like, is it better to have more interest expressed regarding one subject matter? I'd love to see more about amnesia on shows like 20/20, Dateline, etc...
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Do it honey-I will follow suit...the more the merrier I say!!!!
 
believe09 said:
Do it honey-I will follow suit...the more the merrier I say!!!!
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I think it's more incentive if many people show interest in the same subject, don't you?

Do we have a list of outlets, or do we want to report back here as we find new outlets, etc...? I can think of several off the top of my head, but let me know if there's a "master list" of media outlets. :)
 
No, LOL. Sorry, it was late at night, I should have explained myself. The reason I found it interesting is the spelling of the last name. COYLE vs. KYLE. And the time frame Mr. Coyle was at U of C was in the early 1970's, perhaps a time when Benjaman would have been there.
dreamweaver said:
I checked the CO missing alumni list.
Good clues there.

But, why did you choose Jimmy Coyle, 1974 ?
Is he from Indiana?
?
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Good to know about fingerprinting and the military. If someone was declared dead in the military, do they still keep the fingerprints on record, or are those fingerprints archived or something?

I also thought that whoever IS investigating this should be checking old yearbooks from the Catholic schools in Indianapolis area, as well as University of Colorado/Boulder yearbooks. If he went to U of C, then worked in the food industry, what did he study? Architecture? Engineering? Business? If we could narrow down what he studied, based on his recollections, there is then a narrower scope of research to do.

dreamweaver said:
julessleuther:
IMO:
http://www.us-army-info.com/pages/enlist.html
re: fingerprinting:
"snipped respectfully"
The day at MEPS will consist of these tests:
Drug and alcohol
Color vision
Hearing
Blood (similiar to donating blood)
Doctor examination
Eye examination
Weight
Joint inspection
Fingerprinting
''snipped''

IMO: I do think all military personnel had to be fingerprinted.
But,
records can be lost, misplaced.

I have thought about the witness protection program.
FBI Bill K said, that Benjaman Kyle's fingerprints were
checked with the U S Marshall Witness Protection Program.
But, I have read that the marshalls may not always
be truthful, even to the FBI.
And I have read that state witness protection programs are underfunded and poorly maintained. (link prev. provided)

I like the way you are thinking!
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I would like to send out letters to these newspapers in Oklahoma:

Miami News Record
Guymon Daily Herald
Alva Review
Edmond Evening Sun
Oklahoma Journal Record
The Oklahoma Constitution
The Oklahoman
Bixby Bulletin
Broken Arrow Daily Ledger
Sand Springs Ledger
Sapulpa Daily Herald
Greater Tulsa Reporter
Tulsa World
Urban Tulsa

If this is okay, I will send in a.m. on July 2. Hopefully we will get some feedback from these newspapers. I can also post online on these sites, I think.
 
I will start a 5th year anniversary media campaign thread-we can post our media contacts and letters if you feel like it.

Thank you everyone for continuing to carry the torch...:blowkiss:
 
Julessleuther said:
No, LOL. Sorry, it was late at night, I should have explained myself. The reason I found it interesting is the spelling of the last name. COYLE vs. KYLE. And the time frame Mr. Coyle was at U of C was in the early 1970's, perhaps a time when Benjaman would have been there.
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Ah, that explains it. That makes sense.

I often post at night, and sometimes I am not clear. So, I know what you mean.
 
believe09 said:
I will start a 5th year anniversary media campaign thread-we can post our media contacts and letters if you feel like it.

Thank you everyone for continuing to carry the torch...:blowkiss:
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I spent some time today online finding out producers names of tv news magazines.
And I know I have it bookmarked contact names...searching again...

I will contact media outlets as well, mostly tv or magazines.
 
Ok hon, thank you. I do not want to overstep any bounds here, and will do whatever is needed and appropriate for the time... :blowkiss:
believe09 said:
I will limit my scope, but you-all do whatever you think fits the situation. :)
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