And I agree with you both.
I have followed young juvenile murderers for years now and their acts of homicide are extremely heinous and cruel. Most of them consist of premeditation and they try to cover up their crimes.
I dont know what the answer is when the very young murder but imo it certainly is not the juvenile justice system that lets them out by the time they are either 18 or no later than 21.
Imo, as far as the excuses there are none that will rationalize such a horrific act away. It matters not to me IF he was a troubled kid or even IF he suffered some type of abuse or IF his life wasnt ideal. Abuse doesnt turn someone into being a murder ...killing someone makes them a murderer. If abuse really was a contributing factor then the millions who are abused yearly would turn around and abuse or become a murderer. These young killers are in a league of their own, imo, and extremely dangerous.
Remember the 8 year old AZ boy that laid in wait and murdered two men in cold blood? He too got such sympathy just because of his age. He got more sympathy than the ones he murdered and not one shred of abuse was ever uncovered.
Well this is what is happening with that kid now who is in a mental health treatment facility. It is obvious that the treatment isnt working but I have read that treating a fledgling psychopath with precription medication who has a conduct disorder can make them even worse and IMO, CR cant be fixed.
A probation officer has moved to revoke the probation of a 12-year-old St. Johns, Ariz., boy who killed his father four years ago, alleging that the child repeatedly threatened staffers and damaged property at a treatment center in Phoenix.
A petition filed last week by Apache County juvenile probation officer Michael O'Brien says the boy engaged in a series of violent and threatening incidents over the past three months. While simulating a handgun, Christian allegedly talked of shooting his therapist at the Youth Development Institute, a private, not-for-profit facility in central Phoenix. He also is accused of shoving the therapist against a wall, threatening to kill a roommate, destroying property and running away. Christian Romero has no defense attorney, and his guardian ad litem could not be reached for comment.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-03-27/arizona-boy-killed-father-probation/53808790/1
Let this kid out and he will be moving to a town near one of us and our children or grandchildren.
We have got to find a responsible way of dealing with young killers and the juvie system isnt the answer. And dont think these young kids dont know they are treated much differently than if they were an adult. They know. They could kill 40 people and still be out in a few short years. Does this really make any sense and how is it justice for the victims who have been murdered.
I imagine this kid in this case lost his temper when the 2 year old toddler maybe got into something that belonged to him or maybe the 2 year old wanted his attention and he went ballistic because the toddler was 'bugging' him.
Very few of the cases I have read in recent years really had nothing to do with abuse but was more about self centeredness and the kids flew into a rage because they were either being 'bugged' by the victim or didnt get their way about something or had one of their material possessions taken away.
IMO