Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #9

Maxymoo said:

rhb said:

So there my theory wasn't that far fetched and at least it stopped people from obsessing about the phone or what Hawkins said Which by the way how the hell did you get kiddy *advertiser censored* out of Hawkins statement. Obviously watch too much SVU:floorlaugh:

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LOL! Um...I'm assuming this is supposed to be associated with someone else's post because I certainly didn't say anything about "kiddy *advertiser censored*".

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Lurker on Websleuths said:

Has anybody got any knowledge of the persons who advanced the $300 000 or so to GBC towards the business. Would it be a possibilty that an ex colleague of GBC, who also is helpful with police interviews could have lent money towards the business ? I mean this person used to have an interest in property worth $700K

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aussie_mum said:

Gerard Baden-Clay behaved unusually during the search for his wife - That isn't a fact, it's opinion

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aussie_mum said:

GBC had a scratch on his face - Link? I have only seen innuendo about tis.

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aussie_mum said:

Neighbours overheard a disturbance in Allison's home on the night she disappeared - Link? Disturbance was heard 4kms away?

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aussie_mum said:

There is no mention Allison was wearing running shoes, or any mention that's what GBC said she was wearing at 10pm - Yes there is...the initial reports by QPS said she was wearing white sneakers.

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Lurker on Websleuths said:

Has anybody got any knowledge of the persons who advanced the $300 000 or so to GBC towards the business. Would it be a possibilty that an ex colleague of GBC, who also is helpful with police interviews could have lent money towards the business ? I mean this person used to have an interest in property worth $700K

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Hillsdon said:

Thank you keyboredom, that just about sums it up, I am saving this so that I remember what is fact and what is supposition.

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Lurker on Websleuths said:

Has anybody got any knowledge of the persons who advanced the $300 000 or so to GBC towards the business. Would it be a possibilty that an ex colleague of GBC, who also is helpful with police interviews could have lent money towards the business ? I mean this person used to have an interest in property worth $700K

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Mani said:

Hey Hillsdon

Do me a favour - back on page 14 of this thread (post 341 I think) you quoted me but the quote is actually not mine but that of another poster.
Could you go in and edit that to represent what I said thanks. I did pm you but you might not have seen it yet. Sorry but it reads like I am saying something that someone else said!

Cheers

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dansw said:

If you read 543's first post I think he/she must have very good knowledge of the local area actually.

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Mani said:

Hey Hillsdon

Do me a favour - back on page 14 of this thread (post 341 I think) you quoted me but the quote is actually not mine but that of another poster.
Could you go in and edit that to represent what I said thanks. I did pm you but you might not have seen it yet. Sorry but it reads like I am saying something that someone else said!

Cheers

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AllyG said:

rhb said:

Because every night they come back to the same point about how the police are on the wrong track, etc. It's infuriating. I've put them on my ignore list, however other peoples quoted replies still come thru.

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I empathize. Generally I just read it and move on. I just don't like the vibe to the reaction to the member concerned. Sometimes we all get a bee in our bonnet. I honestly don't know what to think about the case anymore. I keep going back to the facts (QP...I even think twice about what the media says). The facts are, at the moment we don't know who did it and we don't know how complex it is (or isn't). I keep thinking back to the Azaria Chamberlain case and the eventual outcome of that. All I can do is look at the facts. Logic points at GBC but does the evidence (and when I say "evidence" I mean what has been released by the police). I honestly have to say I don't think that it does. IMO.

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kailee said:

I did use a 'wild theory' disclaimer ... and 543 comes up in google as a house to rent, apparently.

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LostSock said:

I agree I don't think the phone rules anyone out of the investigation especially GBC. For all we know it could have ben left on to draw people somewhere, or thrown in anger by ABC herself. While it would be useful to find to suggest it alone will prove GBC is innocent is clutching at straws.

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rhb said:

Makara said:

Ok, so I have about 3 pages to catch up on but...

I'd answer for 543 and say that the reason they're coming across like this is because ever since they expressed their differing theories/opinions everyone kinda jumped on them and haven't been really that kind about it.

I don't necessarily subscribe to 543's theories on the matter but I'd like to say that the theory they present is, to a great extent, as likely as any other at the moment given the *facts* that we have on this case. Just because we don't agree with them doesn't mean that they don't have the right to express their theories.

The general tone of all these threads is GBC did it. I certainly sway this way. HOWEVER how do we know that he did it? I've read (in this forum) of theories that suggest a possible involvement--he was an accessory but not the actual one who committed the crime. Sure, we all shrug and go "nah, no way" but why? I know that it's weird he "lawyered up" but perhaps that's because he was involved in a dodgy dealing that would result in his wife being kidnapped and murdered. All right, I think that's probably more prime-time viewing than reality HOWEVER it's a possibility given the facts we have.

The majority here thing GBC is guilty based on analysis of the one "interview" he did (and even I think there's something *very* wrong about how he conducts himself there) and other observations of photos and that BUT the reality is we have very little to work with. The majority of everything written here is pure speculation.

My point: I don't think 543 deserves the treatment he/she receives. It's a theory and so what should be done is shoot it down with *fact* or if that can't be done respectfully disagree.

Occam's razor usually wins out but it doesn't always. Just saying...and expect to receive flack for saying this but it's been bugging me for a couple of days so...yeah...I'm happy to go out on the limb.

Oh, IMO, MOO and all that jazz.

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Keyboredom said:

It doesn't sorry - there is a reference but it pointing to :

For Rent House 543 Brookfield Road Kedron Qld 4031 Australia ...

Kedron isn't Brookfield:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?oe=u...code_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ8gEwAA

Sleuthing is good - wild stabs in dark not so good :waitasec:

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kiwi50 said:

Yes it makes me angry when I see his pathetic interview, I feel sad for Alison's family, I'm sure they have had no more info from him than what the dad said, what was it "he said she went for a walk"
He should have been before the cameras begging for help from the public to find his loved wife. I'm sure the police would have asked him to do so. No excuse whatsoever letting her parents have to do it.
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Neuromancer said:

There are 2 separate things I've read here - there were references for both but I don't have them handy, but I'll just put the info out here so maybe someone else can come up with the links.

Consider these unsubstantiated 'til links found:

(1) two business partners - colleagues from C21 who left the business the same day.

(2) BC senior house mortgaged to the tune of 300k

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Mani said:

Hey Hillsdon

Thanks for making the change to the post and sorting the quote out!

Cheers

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Karo said:

I can't be sure, and I have no idea how to locate it, but I recall seeing it here, that GBC's parents may have been the lenders?

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Keyboredom said:

I would stand by this being close enough to fact considering initial police interest in him, and compared to what people have seen of his public persona ... pretend extrovert, marketeer, loving family man. The weird self-absorbed interview, the engaging legal representation, no plea for public help, distance from Allison's parents. And this was reported in media, technically, kind of :
(Madonna King, Courier Mail, - http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-of-wife-allison/story-e6frerdf-1226347438707 - pointed out his behaviour was unorthodox) :
"But I just can't understand why he didn't rush to search for her with police and locals, and why he didn't join her parents in the public police calls for assistance in finding her. I called his lawyer on Thursday, desperate to find an answer.".... "Why didn't you help police search for Mummy? Why didn't you join Grandpa and Nanna at the police press conference and plead for her to come home to us" / "


Not sure if we trust this link but :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lping-police-wife-Allisons-disappearance.html - "Supt Ainsworth said Mr Baden-Clay was staying with his parents and had provided 'a version of events to police in relation to specific matters' relating to a scratch he had on his face."



http://www.news.com.au/national/sea...lison-baden-clay/story-e6frfkvr-1226337675767 - "Neighbours reported hearing what sounded like arguing from the family home on Brookfield Rd at Brookfield not long before she disappeared about 10pm on Thursday, April 19"



Nice one, thanks.

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