Originally Posted by gord
I just see it in other forums ( non McCann ) where as soon as people cant be bothered to debate - the troll word comes out and then that is the slippery slope
I think that this case does polarise views and you do start to have two sets of posters who all debate the same issues - hence teh two camps - but to say we are organised groups cioming over from other forums !!
In this case noone can say they are correct - all we can do is debate and look at the posibiblities - the Police couldnt solve it and at the end of the day the case is still a mystery - we just dont know
we can have view points and my view is no more " correct " than anyone else -
Definition of troll -
In Internet slang, a troll ( /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog
Now let's see -
Yesterday 06:50 PM
I see the " troll " word is starting tio be used again - which I think is rather patheticThat and the fact that there is now some " organised " Team Mccann . which is also very insulting
:waitasec: Inflammatory, extraneous, and off-topic, I'd say.
These threads are becoming pro-McCann, and I for one am heartily sick of constantly pointing out the gigantic, repeated errors in those posts.
If I was going to be inflammatory, I would call them mistruths, or outright lies. As the same offenders are repeating the same misrepresentations on every thread (regardless of the actual topic), it fits the definition of trolling.
No one does know exactly what happened that night.
The problem starts when an alternate theory is consistently met with a barrage of derision, snark, inaccuracies and unlinked opinion as fact.
Impartially read the threads and note how many times the pro-McCann posts are either never supported by a link, or completely discounted by the next informed poster. It happens every single post, not just every now and then. Any thoughtful, linked and accurate response is completely ignored while the Pro McCann leaps on to the next load of baseless allegations.
No one can deny that the drubbing Goncalo Amaral recieves on these pages is beyond a normal impartial reaction. He was the Lead Investigator...I know of no case where a policeman is brought up by the defense with such monotony, as if it "proves" something....what? Exactly nothing about what happened to Madeleine, but still the trolling posts about Amaral continue. On every single thread.
Debate is wonderful, I have learnt a lot from these boards even inadvertently, but it has to be fair, and it has to be accurate and checkable. Otherwise it's not debate, it's propaganda. The pro-McCann posts are not fair, in that they do not stand up to examination or rebuttal. Regurgitating falsities and sledges then acting like a wounded innocent when someone points it out, is trolling behaviour. Not answering the responses, or requests for links, same.
I have asked for links that have never been given, had admissions of false posting even, yet mention the T word and all of a sudden the very fabric of the freedom of speech is threatened. By those of us who are actually concerned with the truth and links, no less. Mystifying.
I have no agenda except Madeleine. I don't passionately support the PJ or Amaral or my own comfort zone. What I do is consider the truth as published, and form an opinion. I have the right to expect anyone who is going to argue against my opinion so vehemently and with clockwork regularity to also be arguing from a place of knowledge and impartiality. That is not happening.
I will keep on posting the truth on these threads. I have asked many times that those who critique my posts at least know the basic, undisputed facts of the case, many of which can be found in black and white in the PJ's final report. Unbiased assessment of the exact events of the evening, complete with signed statements, collected and analysed by experienced, qualified people who investigate these things for a living. It's amazing what you will find out if you read it.
People can post whatever opinion they like. What they cannot do, unchallenged, is make false and unlinked statements and allegations, especially in rebuttal.
If you are going to critique my posts, at least read the PJ report and the relevant msm first.