FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #19

Jazzmaster said:

Good catch bigcitylightsgrl! This is JMO, but I was trying to put two and two together. I recall that Michelle had mentioned on People's Court that Dale was cheating on her with people he met on Craig's List. Something along the lines that she had caught him with 7 different women. Then this report says he was using Craig's List to "communicate"with men and women. That surprised me. How do we know he wasn't having affairs with men too? What if Michelle found out he was soliciting men and she was going to "out" him? How would his friends react?

Also you make a good point about Buck. We can't be sure it's Dale. I jumped the gun a bit. Maybe it is one of his friends or someone who wants to make MP look bad. What motive would his friends or anyone for that matter have to say Michelle was a known escort? I haven't seen that reported or speculated anywhere. I would think that this would also make the news, don't you?

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I have not heard any reports or any speculation from Dale's friends or anyone else that MP was a "known escort." Though I can think of a motive as to why Dale's friends or someone would suggest that. To say that MP was an escort would be showing she was involved in a dangerous industry; therefore, showing any number of people could have been involved in her disappearance. Simply, saying she could have fallen victim to one of her clients. But I think if that was being suggested now...it's not reasonable. If this were true it would have been said a long time ago. Another motive to suggest this would be to point the finger AWAY from Dale. "If she was a known escort who knows who she could have been in contact with or how many people?" Again, pointing the finger away from Dale.

The "known" part is odd. If she was a "known" escort ...ah it was known so people would have been talking about this long before now. It's been three months since MP disappeared. Maybe if it was speculated she was an escort but kept it a secret that's another thing. Doesn't matter to me. IMO, I do NOT believe that MP was involved in the escort business known or otherwise at any point in her life.


I also don't think it would make news if Dale's friends or anyone said this AT this point in time. Now, if a reliable, verifiable, source said it then yes I do think that would become news. But again, I think if this has any ounce of truth to it, it would have come out a long time ago.

Again, I haven't read that anywhere either or heard that because it's just not true.

JMO. MOO. If no link then it's only what I think.

nobodynoz said:

BigCityLightsGrl, I do know what you mean. I admit to being pretty naive about Craig's List, so I don't know all the things it is used for, but "communicating with" doesn't mean making dates with, necessarily.

But you see, I would go one step further because of my own sensibilities. Yes, it's hurtful and unhealthy for a spouse, boyfriend, girlfriend, fiance to cheat on you, but imo, why the special attention to whether it's with both men and women? IMO, if it happens that DS II was looking to hook up with men, that isn't in itself a reason for condemnation. Some people are bisexual, and what's it to me?

Now, I do understand the idea that, if DS II's social circles are homophobic, then he would have a reason to conceal his sexuality; and, thus deeply closeted, he could react violently to the threat of being outed. MOO

To me, that just one more indictment of societal attitudes that force people to conceal a basic, natural part of themselves.

This is all totally my own opinion, and I realize there are others who disagree.

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I agree with you. I'm fine with whomever people choose to be with. Though, unfortunatley, there are many, many, people that do not share the same. I have a male friend who is bisexual and I cannot tell you what he went through when it was discovered by frieinds and even family. IMO, if a man has been openly dating only women, even got married at some point, had children and then it was found out he was bi sexual...one would hope his family and friends would be supportive and let him be who he is but as we know that is NOT always the case. IMO, especially when the man has been involved already w women and had kids. *Some* people have a hard time wrapping their heads around him then being with another man.

I feel for anyone in this situation. I've seen the aftermath of what it can do and I understand why a man or anyone would want to keep it a secret. Maybe your family and friends would be supportive, but you just don't know. So, that can be very terrifying.

JMO. MOO. No link -- Just what I think

Elisaa444 said:

I agree with you. I'm fine with whomever people choose to be with. Though, unfortunatley, there are many, many, people that do not share the same. I have a male friend who is bisexual and I cannot tell you what he went through when it was discovered by frieinds and even family. IMO, if a man has been openly dating only women, even got married at some point, had children and then it was found out he was bi sexual...one would hope his family and friends would be supportive and let him be who he is but as we know that is NOT always the case. IMO, especially when the man has been involved already w women and had kids. *Some* people have a hard time wrapping their heads around him then being with another man.

I feel for anyone in this situation. I've seen the aftermath of what it can do and I understand why a man or anyone would want to keep it a secret. Maybe your family and friends would be supportive, but you just don't know. So, that can be very terrifying.

JMO. MOO. No link -- Just what I think

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Great insight Elisa! Thanks for sharing about your friend. Based on what happened with your friend do you think someone who has a violent past could be motivated to hurt another person *if they were to tell others about their sexuality? I mean what if this is the motive. What if Michelle was mad about the show and threaten to tell Dale's family about him having affairs with men if he was in deed on Craig's list for that purpose? Maybe he was scared about his friends and family finding out and he wanted to silence her?

Jazzmaster said:

Great insight Elisa! Thanks for sharing about your friend. Based on what happened with your friend do you think someone who has a violent past could be motivated to hurt another person *if they were to tell others about their sexuality? I mean what if this is the motive. What if Michelle was mad about the show and threaten to tell Dale's family about him having affairs with men if he was in deed on Craig's list for that purpose? Maybe he was scared about his friends and family finding out and he wanted to silence her?

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If I were going to out my boyfriend or husband to his family or friends, you can be certain that I would let my family and friends know first, in case something did happen to me. I would have left a letter or note with all the details about what I know, and the last line would be "if anything happens to me let this all be known to everyone."

I just think that if this was the case it would be all over the news, but then again thats just me.

BigCityLightsGrl said:

If I were going to out my boyfriend or husband to his family or friends, you can be certain that I would let my family and friends know first, in case something did happen to me. I would have left a letter or note with all the details about what I know, and the last line would be "if anything happens to me let this all be known to everyone."

I just think that if this was the case it would be all over the news, but then again thats just me.

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I don't know, I think Jazz might be on to something here, just based on some of the things that have already been reported about Jr.

BigCityLightsGrl said:

If I were going to out my boyfriend or husband to his family or friends, you can be certain that I would let my family and friends know first, in case something did happen to me. I would have left a letter or note with all the details about what I know, and the last line would be "if anything happens to me let this all be known to everyone."

I just think that if this was the case it would be all over the news, but then again thats just me.

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What if she wasn't planning it and he pushed her to the edge and then she threatened him in the heat of the moment? She didn't have time to write it down and it was the first time she confronted him that she knew he likes guys and gals? I know this is a bit out there, but he seems to like cowboys. Maybe Brokeback Mountain too? What do you think BigCityLightsGrl, is it possible or am I off my sweet old rocker?

Admittedly, I've not followed this case so closely, but I must ask:

Do we need yet another motive for the suspect/POI?

Jazzmaster said:

What if she wasn't planning it and he pushed her to the edge and then she threatened him in the heat of the moment? She didn't have time to write it down and it was the first time she confronted him that she knew he likes guys and gals? I know this is a bit out there, but he seems to like cowboys. Maybe Brokeback Mountain too? What do you think BigCityLightsGrl, is it possible or am I off my sweet old rocker?

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I think you're really onto something here, Jazz. Brokeback Mountain is exactly what I'm thinking.
Just my humble opinion, of course!

Jazzmaster said:

Great insight Elisa! Thanks for sharing about your friend. Based on what happened with your friend do you think someone who has a violent past could be motivated to hurt another person *if they were to tell others about their sexuality? I mean what if this is the motive. What if Michelle was mad about the show and threaten to tell Dale's family about him having affairs with men if he was in deed on Craig's list for that purpose? Maybe he was scared about his friends and family finding out and he wanted to silence her?

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I absolutely agree with what you are saying. I re-read my post. I wasn't clear on what I was getting at. I was trying to express exactly what you said above. I absolutely believe that it is very possible that Dale would hurt MP to silence her if she threatened to tell a soul that kind of info.

Like I was trying to say earlier because he had been married previously, dated women only openly (to my limilted knowledge but I feel it's safe to assume so) , had two children that Dale would know any word getting out about him being bi sexual or maybe just had one experience like that would be a situation he couldn't deal with. Perhaps, didn't know how he would deal with it. It's a terrfiying position for sure, but you obviously can't fix it by killing someone. Well, strike that. I guess you could, but now you're in a way worse situatiion than what you started with. BTW, I'm in no way implying that this is the case at all. I'm merely just giving my opinion and view IF this were to be the scenerio.

Knowing Dale's past, how he was the last to see MP that day (going by last video of her dropping off kids, they got dropped off where did she go?), and combine that with him not taking a poly, not talking to police, and not trying to do anything (that I've heard of) to help the Parker family find his children's MOTHER who vanished and has been gone for over three months ....those are the examples of what he has done/ and what he has not done that make me comfortable enough to say that YES, IMO, I do believe Dalejr is more than capable of hurting Michelle. I'll go further, based on what I know *thus far* I do think he was involved in her disappearance.

Sorry for the crappy grammar, run on sentences I had to reply fast as my computer battery is about to die):

JMO. MOO. No link - just my opinion.

Jazzmaster said:

What if she wasn't planning it and he pushed her to the edge and then she threatened him in the heat of the moment? She didn't have time to write it down and it was the first time she confronted him that she knew he likes guys and gals? I know this is a bit out there, but he seems to like cowboys. Maybe Brokeback Mountain too? What do you think BigCityLightsGrl, is it possible or am I off my sweet old rocker?

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I am thinking the same as you on this as well. IMO, I don't see MP planning on saying something like that to Dale. I can def see in one of their regular heated arguments, she's angry, he's angry, and she snaps and says it in the heat of the moment as you say...bc she knows that will hit him where it hurts.

Based on what has been *reported* and what I've learned about Michelle from her family the only person in MP's life that was abusive to her both emotionally and physically was Dale jr. I don't think her family/friends needed her to write down who to look for if anything ever happened to her.MOO.

I also don't think you are off of your rocker. You *never* know. Michelle is STILL missing...until MP is found every avenue should be explored and re explored. Three children are missing their MOTHER. We are only talking about it to see if it's reasonable. We aren't saying in anyway whatsoever this is what happened. Would I be surprised if this were the case? NO, not at all. I think it's a valid possibly.

I think it's great that there are people here still caring about MP, trying to keep the converstation going to not forget about her....so I say keep sleuthing away....until she is found.

MOO;JMO ONLY

Jazzmaster said:

Yes about 5:45 into this video:
Michelle Loree Parker: Issues 11/22/11 - "MICHELLE PARKER MISSING" IS THE OFFICIAL FACEBOOK PAGE - YouTube

Says Dale was communicating with men AND women...

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Haven't posted in a while because I do know I get everyone all worked up when I do BUT now Dale is gay or bisexual?! The reason why I question this information is because the guy also stated that he had no criminal record which we all know is not true. Just because it's in MSM does not make it true and this video is just an example. Also, who is Buck? Did I miss a post?

shana said:

Admittedly, I've not followed this case so closely, but I must ask:

Do we need yet another motive for the suspect/POI?

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IMO, Yes. Until Michelle is found I think that it is reasonable to discuss various possibities regarding her disappearance. MP has been missing for over three months now.


JMO/MOO ONLY

hon3yb33 said:

Haven't posted in a while because I do know I get everyone all worked up when I do BUT now Dale is gay or bisexual?! The reason why I question this information is because the guy also stated that he had no criminal record which we all know is not true. Just because it's in MSM does not make it true and this video is just an example. Also, who is Buck? Did I miss a post?

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Hi hon3yb33,

I'm not in anyway saying Dale is gay/bi sexual. It was brought up and a couple of us were just discussing with each other if we could consider this happening. That's it. Michelle has been missing as you know ...Im sure....for over 3 montlhs now. I have heard no updates from police in quite awhile. No news of searches being conducted. Unless I've missed it somewhere. Michelle's case is important to me so I try to stay on top of it.

I know what you are saying. That's why I said a few times that I do not have any reason to think Dale jr is gay/bisexual. I also said in my post I haven't read or heard any info of this kind anywhere. But because no activity, at least that I know of , the time she's been missing, I think it's okay to discuss various possibities of what could have happened to her.

I have no idea who "buck" is, but curious as well.

JMO/MOO

In my many many years here on earth I have seen stranger things. Things aren't what they appear. Men and women hide who they are because of how society can often be brutal. I'm just saying someone who gets their dates off Craig's list may be open to a wide variety of sexual preferences. The fact that he was communicating with men and women on CL and he was getting "dates" there could mean he was dating some dudes too. *

If Michelle was maybe spying on him she might have had some convicting evidence. How did she know about the seven women? Tumultuous relationships like Dale and Michelle often involve spying on one another. IMO they both didn't trust one another and probably liked to spy on each other. Michelle could have had some evidence she was withholding and wasn't *planning to use. But dale's taunting about the PC episode on which she was humiliated forced her to punch back. *She makes a reference to what she knows about him and threatens to tell. He loses it and harms her.*

Now FL has a three strikes law too, right? What if he simply went too far and knew if she went to LE he'd be up the creek with no paddle? *Now she's calling him out of the closet and threatening to go to LE. At least makes a good plot... We won't know the truth unless more people come forward.*

Elisaa444 said:

Hi hon3yb33,

I'm not in anyway saying Dale is gay/bi sexual. It was brought up and a couple of us were just discussing with each other if we could consider this happening. That's it. Michelle has been missing as you know ...Im sure....for over 3 montlhs now. I have heard no updates from police in quite awhile. No news of searches being conducted. Unless I've missed it somewhere. Michelle's case is important to me so I try to stay on top of it.

I know what you are saying. That's why I said a few times that I do not have any reason to think Dale jr is gay/bisexual. I also said in my post I haven't read or heard any info of this kind anywhere. But because no activity, at least that I know of , the time she's been missing, I think it's okay to discuss various possibities of what could have happened to her.

I have no idea who "buck" is, but curious as well.

JMO/MOO

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No need to "defend" your posts to me. I understand everyone has their own feelings in regards to this case. I am done trying to persuade people to see Dale's good side because honestly on this forum there is no point. I'm not trying to sound bitter or angry I'm just voicing my opinion like everyone else.

hon3yb33 said:

Haven't posted in a while because I do know I get everyone all worked up when I do BUT now Dale is gay or bisexual?! The reason why I question this information is because the guy also stated that he had no criminal record which we all know is not true. Just because it's in MSM does not make it true and this video is just an example. Also, who is Buck? Did I miss a post?

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Hi Hon3yb33! So glad to see you back on here. :seeya:

I think you make an excellent point. When there's inaccurate information in a report, then by definition you have to question and doubt everything in the report. (And we should be skeptical anyway, even if there's no inaccuracy.)

I have no idea about the Buck thing. That's a mystery to me too.

Jazzmaster said:

What if she wasn't planning it and he pushed her to the edge and then she threatened him in the heat of the moment? She didn't have time to write it down and it was the first time she confronted him that she knew he likes guys and gals? I know this is a bit out there, but he seems to like cowboys. Maybe Brokeback Mountain too? What do you think BigCityLightsGrl, is it possible or am I off my sweet old rocker?

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Likes cowboys? I dont get it? Because he wears a cowboy hat? Does he have pics of cowboys on his facebook, or does he post stuff like that else where? Its so easy for someone to be something we want them to be,even when their not. Dont take this the wrong way but he is shirtless is some pics, does that make him a stripper? Dancer? Im sure we could find a way, if we wanted, to put him in the grassy knoll.

Its nice to explore every avenue and possiblity but sometime that line of thought can distract from whats really going on.

Jazzmaster said:

Now I recently saw a video that seemed to indicate early into the investigation, LE was exploring Dale's Craigslist activity and had some sort of proof he was soliciting men and women. Maybe his "buck" persona is into men and Dale is into women. Has anyone else found anything about how he was using Craigslist? TIA

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Did you get your fictional characters confused? Dale is into Star Wars, not Buck Rogers.

Jazzmaster said:

What if she wasn't planning it and he pushed her to the edge and then she threatened him in the heat of the moment? She didn't have time to write it down and it was the first time she confronted him that she knew he likes guys and gals? I know this is a bit out there, but he seems to like cowboys. Maybe Brokeback Mountain too? What do you think BigCityLightsGrl, is it possible or am I off my sweet old rocker?

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I had to agree with you on this...
Michelle said or did something that day that set DS2 off.... IMO
Repressed sexuality can show up in aggression and violence.
This is something we had seen in DS2 ...not sure that was the cause.
Seems like their fights did center around cheating and money...I'm betting the farm one of those trigger points that set him off.

Just cant believe Michelle was so easy to hide.....
Where do all the missing people go to? :bangheadumpsters? that would be really a quick way.....and maybe hard to find if its in another city....

BigCityLightsGrl said:

Likes cowboys? I dont get it? Because he wears a cowboy hat? Does he have pics of cowboys on his facebook, or does he post stuff like that else where? Its so easy for someone to be something we want them to be,even when their not. Dont take this the wrong way but he is shirtless is some pics, does that make him a stripper? Dancer? Im sure we could find a way, if we wanted, to put him in the grassy knoll.

Its nice to explore every avenue and possiblity but sometime that line of thought can distract from whats really going on.

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But what's really going on? How can we distract from what's 'really going on' when we don't know what's really going on?

Respectfully, I think it's important to explore every possibility. JMO, of course. As far as putting him "in the grassy knoll", well, so far no one else has been named Prime Suspect. Again, JMO.