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See, I get confused, is this is the thread for mental illiness to the be theme or am I in the wrong place. There are so many! Advise pls.Mens Rea - "Guilty Mind" In Canadian Law:
http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/articles/criminal-law
This document is lengthy but it's very informative. And.....it's the LAW!!
This is a good point. All of those "people locator" sites on the internet use utility company info to maintain their databases.Sounds like he's been in Montreal longer than 5 months (??) Even up to a year from Feb 2011? Does that make sense? Did he stalk Jun Lin for a year?
No 411 listings for Luka Magnotta or Luka Rocco Magnotta. There are at least 25 for E. Newman across Canada. Hard to say which one is Eric Newman aka Magnotta.
ETA: I don't think he had a house phone. Also, I noticed the apartments rented were furnished and internet, utilities included which means he didn't have to register his name anywhere!ie Bell Canada or Hydro Quebec
Just a thought, but LM is painted by many here
as being a "copy cat" killer by bringing elements of famous serial killers and movies to his own alleged crime. While I think this is true, part of me thinks that we only witness his copy cat because he utilized the Internet to express it. I'm guessing serial killers are all inspired by other killers/movies/books/etc. I don't think these people just wake up one day and decide to kill in a particular pattern; they are influenced. The difference here is that we aren't privy to seeing these serial killers' influences because that would require much, much more effort than in the case at hand.
Even though this bothers me and I don't see it as giving him any credit, by virtue of the fact that he used the Internet and made himself so well publicized, makes him somewhat unique as an alleged killer. If proven guilty, he is the first google bomber killer.
Unfortunately I fear this is going to spawn others to act out on fantasies or a means to gain attention. On a lesser but still just as disturbing trend, you hear and see all these videos of mostly kids committing crimes and then posting them on the net. They seem to get off on who can out do the last video and LE can't even keep up. Even LE is seems desensitized, because it is so frequent and often not proven easy to catch these guys. Even the original guy who reported this killvid, wasn't taken seriously.
Now, THAT is an interesting notion ( I know it is no surprise here, that I am in the mental illiness SEVERE cat!I think he was an innovator (pioneer?) in promoting and distributing a murder in the mainstream in such a smart way that it crossed the gore websites boundaries and became known around the world.
But to me (MY OPINION) he did copycat the way of killing from fictional and real serial killers and didn't really add much of his own (except the dog). There are just too many movies references in the killvid, I've read gore fans saying that he acted mechanical almost like following some script (I didn't watch the movie but read the graphic description) and that he could have killed using another tool, add another soundtrack, could have discharged the body in another manner etc.
The external influence is so massive that I think he could totally use in his defense the old excuse of 'movies made me do it', as crazy as it sounds it would make more sense to me that he believed he was Catherine Tramell from Basic Instinct or American Psycho and the Hannibal series than murdering just for notoriety because he is possibly malignant narcissist (or at least have narcissist personality disorder). JMHO!!!
other crimes inspired by movies
http://brainz.org/15-films-inspired-real-life-crimes/
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/movies_made_me_kill/5.html
Evidence to support this?
I ask because Magnotta doesn't strike me as someone who likes to chat up strangers
There are so many truths in this guys stuff, , I will kill , I like bondage - all sorts of stuff - did he embellish yes NPD, did he cut and paste to appear smart, yes, NPD - but at the same time, was he not totally honest in declaring things that no killer has ever declared AHEAD of time.?.................I SHALL KILL.....
So, if I can online, for three years, tell the world I like killing, blood, feces etc., when he tells us his mother tied him up no one believes him. How does this make sense?
Lying involves risk. If I can tell the world I am killing, who could possibly think me saying my parents kept my baby brother in the room for days is a LIE?
..if that is not the ultimate example OF HONESTY I need you guys to help me see what I am missing!!!!!!!!!
<snip>Lying involves risk. If I can tell the world I am killing, who could possibly think me saying my parents kept my baby brother in the room for days is a LIE?
..if that is not the ultimate example OF HONESTY I need you guys to help me see what I am missing!!!!!!!!!
Your notions are neat, and I am following. IMO, though you have to reverse it. What could possibly account for what has happened?The thing that makes me not take anything seriously about his childhood stories is the fact that most narcissists usually never describe anyone else in a good light if it will make the narcissist look bad. It's always 'others fault', the others are evil and mean and gruesome, because I'm perfect and I don't deserve to be treated that way.
Did you ever read Magnotta talking anything positive about a real life person? I'm not talking about his infatuation with Marilyn, James Dean or Boham, I'm talking about friends, coworkers, family. I can't remember anything positive, even his sister whom I thought he liked her, he described her as being *advertiser censored*** up also (3kids from 3 fathers, living on welfare etc) because of the childhood. I mean come on, he could have said that she did a lot better than him in despite of everything she went through. But no, that would make her look superior to him.
Sure, at least one of his posts about his family could be actually truth, I'm not saying that he didn't have a bad upbringing and experienced hell, we will probably never know for sure about that especially if he was sexually abused by a relative (stepfather, grandfather, uncle etc). It's just that from what I've read, narcissist people never describe the reality the way it really happened, more like the way they perceived it happened or how they want to portray themselves to the audience. If it it will make them look less perfect than they imagine, there is no point in telling the truth.
Magnotta always blamed everyone else for his actions, why would he say anything good about his family? he said his mother was a monster but at the same time when he sent those emails about Manny abuse to the lawyer Romeo Salta, LM wrote her phone number and told the guy to talk to his mother if he wanted. So, my question is: if she is so evil and didn't support Magnotta or tried to help, why the heck would he give her number? why the need to involve her in this?
Of course this whole post is my opinion, feel free to disagree.
Classic chicken or the egg scenario.Throwing things and hoping they stick!
What evidence do you have to support this? RE: Post #767
Imo, It has been studied and concluded that the *advertiser censored* industry/modeling/ addictive illiness/mental illiness all have high substance abuse dynamics as outlined below
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Jun 1, 2012 Nina Arsenault. Arsenault also said Magnotta used methamphetamine
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www.healthyplace.com/personality.../narcissistic-personality-disorder
So, in sum:
We are exploring an individual who was involved with him (Nia0) and his peers while the vocations he was involved are highly involved in that lifestyle , through in addictive (blog /sex/*advertiser censored*) behavior history and mental illness which is highly correlated with substance abuse.
Since we have no verifiable income streams IMO, there is a credible notion that using and dealing drugs is not all that farfetched, Imo.
e x a c t l yclassic chicken or the egg scenario.
What evidence do you have to support this?
We know of not a single friend or acquaintance he's had in the past 18 months. The neighbors never mentioned frequent traffic in and out of his apartment.
Let's just throw things against the wall and see what sticks ...
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Nah, he was terrified of 30 and I think this affords him a great avenue for denial. In his little mind his life ended at 29, therefore he can remain there forever. Reminds me of every woman I know.