Before I try to touch on this topic. . . . . Does anyone have a 10-foot pole I can borrow?
I want a hazmat suit to get into this one!
Before I try to touch on this topic. . . . . Does anyone have a 10-foot pole I can borrow?
No, they actually do have a recording of Zimmerman recreating his help me cries.They do? Or is my sarcasm detector broken? :waitasec:
Disclaimer: I've been ill and my head's full of cotton.
New Account: Zimmerman Told Cops Trayvon <-well worth the full read.The source familiar with the case said that the Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigators had Zimmerman lie on his back in another location in an effort to recreate the position he said he had been in during the shooting. Then, the source said, investigators recorded Zimmerman as he shouted what had been heard on the 911 calls: cries such as, “Help me!”
It's a good thing the investigators have a voice recording of Zimmerman replicating those cries of Help me! , isn't it?
I, personally, don't feel that we can accurately compare Zimmerman to anyone else that may have a weapon unless the person we are comparing to Zimmerman has also placed numerous calls to 911 and the non-emergancy line for the things that Zimmerman has in the past. We would also need to compare him with someone that has more or less the same background that Zimmerman has. All of it tells what type of person they are and points to their mentality as to how they would or would not react and why they would carry a gun.
MOO
By process of elimination we can conclude that since it is not Zimmerman calling for help that it must be Trayvon that was screaming and begging for his life. Unless of course there was more than the two of them out there that night. Now, if it turns out that there was more than just the two of them then Zimmerman is definately sunk since he has never said that it was more than himself and Trayvon that night.
MOO
Well, according to this LEO source, they had Zimmerman recreate what he was supposed to have screamed that night and recorded it.They need to have more than 2 words for comparison. At least 10. And by the way to me it sounds like Zimmerman was screaming. So, IMO, if they could accurately pinpoint who was screaming it would only help Zimmerman.
But, but, but, the replicated screams of help from Zimmerman that were recorded by LE after the fact will not be accurate either since at the time of the replication Zimmerman was not in fear of his life any longer...................just getting a head start on the new round of "explain away any evidence that points to Zimmerman being guilty".
Well, according to this LEO source, they had Zimmerman recreate what he was supposed to have screamed that night and recorded it.
It's possible no expert technological voice forensics will be needed. Just the ears of reasonable people listening to two screams side by side, both screaming -- that are supposed to be of the same person - that sound nothing at all alike.
And to my hearing, just of the screams -- that is a teenagers voice, that ended the second the shot was fired.
No doubt about it.
As a former 911 dispatcher myself, I can tell you that most likely whatever he called in about previous to the 26th of February is nothing out of the ordinary for a typical 911 call. I haven't heard/read about those calls so I can't say factually either way. However, it is somewhat of a red herring. His previous 911 calls have no bearing on the night in question, or the question in question.
The question was: COULD he have the mentality that he does not want to use his weapon unless it was 100% necessary. I'm not asking you to state factually because we're supposedly in a hypothetical as it is. COULD he have this mentality?
If you review his testimony, and the way the question was asked and answered, I think Gilbreath was being a bit coy with the answer, though truthful.And do you know what police concluded based on those voice tests? All I know is the investigator for prosecution got on the stand and basically claimed he had no clue who the screaming person was.
If you review his testimony, and the way the question was asked and answered, I think Gilbreath was being a bit coy with the answer, though truthful.
Also, he noted earlier he and the other investigator split up portions of the investigation. It's likely he may not have been privy to all the other investigator had, and/or it was still in the process of being worked on to a scientific certainty.
er, it was a bond hearing, not a trial?I don't buy that for a second. If they could match those screams to Trayvon why wouldn't he say so?
er, it was a bond hearing, not a trial?
He was.I presume he is under oath either way.