Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #20

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I am interested in hearing what the other players
at the table with them,(while playing)have to
say. Did anyone overhear what he told her to
make her get up and leave with him?

Was he romantic (ugh) was it business? I hope
the pit boss,dealer or someone overheard their
conversation that night.That will tell alot about
his motives and end alot of speculation

If this has been covered,please forgive me and
please share this info with me.

I have always been curious about this also.
 
Just to make things clear:
There's only one car and it's Stephany's black Jeep Cherokee. It's a 4x4 SUV (as in Sport Utility Vehicle).
 
You know, I'm purely speculating here. But could she have had a club foot? It would account for her walking 'oddly' in the casino; it would not preclude her from playing sports; and it would account for her left foot positioning in the photos.

I have no idea how to confirm this, but it was something I thought about when the discussion first came up.

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Herding Cats

Ummm..never thought of a club foot....good thinking.
 
Did anyone notice how Stephany walked when she was in the lobby of Hotel Tacky?

I think she sort of walked a little strange.....maybe she did have a club foot? Just thinkin.
 
Did anyone notice how Stephany walked when she was in the lobby of Hotel Tacky?

I think she sort of walked a little strange.....maybe she did have a club foot? Just thinkin.

I agree that she seemed to walk strange, but then it was 5 in the morning, and may be she was tired. I don't think she had a club foot - I thought I remember reading that she did sports.
 
QUOTE=epiphany;5333888]IMO, he knows it is over after he has murdered her, when he's wearing the red striped shirt, when he comes out of the opened hotel room door (after a few seconds) during the pathetic door knocking, limp-wristed scene. May have just been checking out who may have been around. Had anyone heard anything, been or is in the corridors? Simply, freaked out. In that videotape, he's stalling to see if anyone's coming, waiting, making sure.

There was nothing for him to do. Can't remove the body, can't clean the scene up. It's been his hotel room for two weeks. She was seen coming in, videotapes, etc. All he cares about is a few hours head start and when eventually caught, the best explanation/confession he can muster (cause he knows he's doing time for her death), which he knows will be next to impossible. But what's he gonna do? He's not stupid. He's a socio/psychopath. One does the best he can do. Try to move forward. Say what you can say. Smoke and mirrors. Whatever it takes. He adjusts and adapts well.

Believe he returns w/employee just to attempt to establish that she was still alive at that point (She wasn't.). Her body would not have been visible from what we had discussed earlier re room layout, location of body in room, etc. IMO, he does not want the employee to discover/see the body. No way. Otherwise, he would have moved it to the room's hallway. On the videotape, you can see his boldness (and pathology) - actually, leans against the hall corridor wall as door is opened. (Would I be doing that with a dead SFR in the room?). He is trying to establish a living, breathing SFR. He'll worry about the forensics later.

As JeanC confirmed recently, there's cameras all over Peru, not to mention he's well-traveled, grew up with technology, etc. It's the only time we see some panic and fear from him, other than, perhaps, upon arrival in Peru and when paraded in front of cameras for photo shoot. Cause, like a good socio/psychop - it's all about him.[/QUOTE]

He was definitely stalling looking up and down the corridor...checking to see if all is OK.
He doesn't realize he's on Candid Camera.....yet.....does his limp pretending to knock....goes for the clerk for the door key.....knowing the clerk won't see into the room...because he's only there to open the door for him.
Besides S is not in eye view even if the clerk looks in......the hallway is too
long and S is on the side of the wall.....near the bed.

IMO even when he was paraded infront of the news media I thought he was calm, cool and collected.....he didn't look concerned or worried at all....I think he was totally disconnected.......he just didn't look like someone who was picked up for murdering a girl so viciously.......
 
Photo 6 shows her feet.....note the left foot is turned completely as if broken. It's positon is not natural......imo

However, there was no mention of a broken ankle....just neck and skull fracture and nose which was reported that one could die from a broken nose.....it would cut off her breathing.

Right, I think he kicked her feet too. The twisted feet shape appear to have been bound for sometime.
 
I agree that she seemed to walk strange, but then it was 5 in the morning, and may be she was tired. I don't think she had a club foot - I thought I remember reading that she did sports.

Take another good look at the crime photos......# 8 her left foot.....

it still looks broken to me......

I tried to put my foot into that position and boy the pain just shot up my leg.......just wondering .......that's all.
 
IMO, he knows it is over after he has murdered her, when he's wearing the red striped shirt, when he comes out of the opened hotel room door (after a few seconds) during the pathetic door knocking, limp-wristed scene. May have just been checking out who may have been around. Had anyone heard anything, been or is in the corridors? Simply, freaked out. In that videotape, he's stalling to see if anyone's coming, waiting, making sure.

There was nothing for him to do. Can't remove the body, can't clean the scene up. It's been his hotel room for two weeks. She was seen coming in, videotapes, etc. All he cares about is a few hours head start and when eventually caught, the best explanation/confession he can muster (cause he knows he's doing time for her death), which he knows will be next to impossible. But what's he gonna do? He's not stupid. He's a socio/psychopath. One does the best he can do. Try to move forward. Say what you can say. Smoke and mirrors. Whatever it takes. He adjusts and adapts well.

Believe he returns w/employee just to attempt to establish that she was still alive at that point (She wasn't.). Her body would not have been visible from what we had discussed earlier re room layout, location of body in room, etc. IMO, he does not want the employee to discover/see the body. No way. Otherwise, he would have moved it to the room's hallway. On the videotape, you can see his boldness (and pathology) - actually, leans against the hall corridor wall as door is opened. (Would I be doing that with a dead SFR in the room?). He is trying to establish a living, breathing SFR. He'll worry about the forensics later.

As JeanC confirmed recently, there's cameras all over Peru, not to mention he's well-traveled, grew up with technology, etc. It's the only time we see some panic and fear from him, other than, perhaps, upon arrival in Peru and when paraded in front of cameras for photo shoot. Cause, like a good socio/psychop - it's all about him.

I sooo agree!
 
You know, I'm purely speculating here. But could she have had a club foot? It would account for her walking 'oddly' in the casino; it would not preclude her from playing sports; and it would account for her left foot positioning in the photos.

I have no idea how to confirm this, but it was something I thought about when the discussion first came up.

Best-
Herding Cats

If she had a club foot, wouldn't one of her shoes have to be bigger or somehow different sized in order to accommodate it ? Her shoes looked matching to me.
 
Right, I think he kicked her feet too. The twisted feet shape appear to have been bound for sometime.

This poor girl.....what she must've gone through at the hands of this who thinks he'll get away with this........

With the clout that her family has.......I think someone one will do him in.
 
If she had a club foot, wouldn't one of her shoes have to be bigger or somehow different sized in order to accommodate it ? Her shoes looked matching to me.

Yeah, Columbo, I thought of that too......sneakers matched.....nothing odd about them...that' why I was thinking he foot was broken in the malee.
 
Take another good look at the crime photos......# 8 her left foot.....

it still looks broken to me......

I tried to put my foot into that position and boy the pain just shot up my leg.......just wondering .......that's all.

I agree that it looks broken, but I am assuming that happened during the murder.
 
This poor girl.....what she must've gone through at the hands of this who thinks he'll get away with this........

With the clout that her family has.......I think someone one will do him in.

He truly tortured her! ~ SF's dad was stated as saying this early on, and HE Ain't Lying! The trial will be just desserts. But I think JVDS days are numbered.
 
Yeah, Columbo, I thought of that too......sneakers matched.....nothing odd about them...that' why I was thinking he foot was broken in the malee.

Looks broken but not in autopsy report, is it? I think bound and rigor set in.
IMO
 
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