WA WA - Joseph Pichler, 18, Bremerton, 5 Jan 2006 - Child Actor - #2

Chicogirl36 said:

Great point Sherry- This is why I think something bad happened to Joe- even IF he DID run away, he would need money by now, and these funds arent accessible to anyone! Joe met with peril that night and we need to bring him home to his family-
Any word on TE and their possible help? Is WA allowing them to search yet? This may have been posted already- I was out of the loop for a week. :crazy: Thanks

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sherryggg said:

Did anyone research the "Magic The Gathering" forum closely? I posted the link, but it is a huge massive place to wade through. I did see an area that mentions buying, selling, and trading of the "Magic The Gathering" cards, along with an area for E-Bay trading.

It seems it should still be looked into as Joe's last phone referenced these cards, as reported by the last person to alledgedly see Joe before he went missing.

Also, the family has reported that he was robbed of some of the cards, although it has been difficult to pinpoint exactly which ones, and the exact value. If nothing else, they have absolutely stated the cards were strewn about his apartment and car, where normally he kept them carefully organized and in special binders. Why the dissarray?


I sorta stopped by the website, but you are right, its MASSIVE and since I don't understand the whole card game thing anyway, I really didn't check it out in detail. The only reason for disarray that I can think of would be that they were looking for specific cards, but again, why throw the rest about when you could just take the targeted cards out of their binders or whatever?

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BeavisMom62 said:

I tried to send the letters out via email that you guys had posted previously, I have been trying for three days now, but for some reason, they are not being sent! I guess because I just cut and pasted the list of email addresses and put them all in one mail, which should work but isn't! Grrrrr......

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BeavisMom62 said:

sherryggg said:

Did anyone research the "Magic The Gathering" forum closely? I posted the link, but it is a huge massive place to wade through. I did see an area that mentions buying, selling, and trading of the "Magic The Gathering" cards, along with an area for E-Bay trading.

It seems it should still be looked into as Joe's last phone referenced these cards, as reported by the last person to alledgedly see Joe before he went missing.

Also, the family has reported that he was robbed of some of the cards, although it has been difficult to pinpoint exactly which ones, and the exact value. If nothing else, they have absolutely stated the cards were strewn about his apartment and car, where normally he kept them carefully organized and in special binders. Why the dissarray?


I sorta stopped by the website, but you are right, its MASSIVE and since I don't understand the whole card game thing anyway, I really didn't check it out in detail. The only reason for disarray that I can think of would be that they were looking for specific cards, but again, why throw the rest about when you could just take the targeted cards out of their binders or whatever?

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The easiest way to understand the game - is to look for the posts/threads that have something in their title line about being a "guide" or a "walk through". It gives the background on the game, as well as a quickie tutorial. From there, you can usually pick out the posts that make sense compared to the ones that are fluff or flames (insults, smack talk etc) (and yes, just like anywhere else, it exists in the gaming world LOL)

HTH a bit....

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MCDRAW said:

I should have saved the letter to send to the media too. I sent the emails once...should I continue to email them?

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dalerainmaker said:

I am a new person here. Thank you moderator for helping get through registration.

I was reading some questions from end_user Starviego<sp>. Very good questions I must admit. Also , some very interesting theories and presentations of the facts of this case.

I have a question about 2805 Wheaton Way. My questions are based on a little different theory into this matter. At the time of the dissappearance and where Joe's car was found, there was a phone booth in front of that restaraunt. From what I understand, Joe's cell phone was turned off when it was discovered.

I also understand from very reliable source that the pay-phone that used to be in front of the restaraunt was removed 6 months (or so) after Joe's disappearance.

I also know for a fact that there are 4 pay-phone numbers at 2825 Wheaton Way which is called the Black Angus Steak house (or to this effect).

What I tried to do was to retirieve any information I could to see if there was a 911 call placed from that payphone at 2805 Wheaton Way, on or about the time of Joe's disappearance. On the current list , the adress is not listed on the Bremerton, Washington payphone Locations list.

(you can google "bremerton, washington payphone locations" and find that list right away. I also know that Qwest handles most of the admin for the payphones, but , the brick wall is the WUTC in Bremerton which has so many several documents , that I cannot parse through.

So , my question is , does anybody know if there is *specifically* a record kept for 911 calls and if there was in fact a 911 call (or any other phone call) from that specific payphone?

thank you and sincere regards.

dalerainmaker

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Chicogirl36 said:

Welcome to WS dalerainmaker- I know that Joe's family appreciates your support,as wellas I do! Great idea and train of thought- i havent heard this brought up before- Unfortunately, I think that his car was driven there to be "hidden". There were clean clothes that his mom washed/folded for him that were still in the passenger seat. IIRC, his last call was made from his cell phone. Great sleuthing, as someone BESIDES Joe could have made a phone call from that location-

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BeavisMom62 said:

I tried to send the letters out via email that you guys had posted previously, I have been trying for three days now, but for some reason, they are not being sent! I guess because I just cut and pasted the list of email addresses and put them all in one mail, which should work but isn't! Grrrrr......

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JinxieJada said:

My only question about that theory though, is WHY leave the car in the open at a place that served his favorite type of food etc? That's what Keeps popping back into my head? Also, since there's been no confirmation for sure that cards were stolen, only that they were missing - could it have been intentionally to make it look like it was ransacked?

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Chicogirl36 said:

Yes, this is why I think his car was planted there- There are too many inconsistancies with him driving it and fleeing from there-
1- He was supposed to be giving his gf and another poss pasenger a ride home after an evening at his home
2- the clothes were left folded neatly on the seat- They would have been messed upa lil IMO if the kids were ALL in the car
3- Odd that his fave food is Mexican and his car was found there-
4- One of the girls knew exactly where the car was before went to look- One female told Mrs. Pichler they wanted to remove "embarassing" (dont know what??) evidence before the police found it-
5- I think in their own attempt to cover up the crime, the perps thought it would look more "natural" if the car was found somewhere where he frequented-
6- Who commits suicide at their fave spot? Just doesnt make sense!

There are too many weird/strange reasons for this car to be here and not just left randomly as if he was in peril- I believe it was parked there by one of his assailants!

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FLMom said:

Here's another question I've been thinking about. I have no clue how to look these things up.

Could there be a possibility that the missing cards may have been sold on Ebay? Is there a way to do a history search and see if any have been sold since Joe's missing date? I am a complete Ebay dunce or I'd try to search myself.

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JinxieJada said:

My thoughts - Clothes folded neatly on the seat still - if someone is "messed up" -And i'm going off of what was posted that there was a gathering and the fact that people were experimenting w/ different things as "most" teens do - That back seat can look mighty inviting when the room is spinning.

Suicide is odd - I work w/ suicidal people, my father committed suicide, my mother's case was originally ruled a suicide etc. There's no rhyme or reason behind it. Some do have a "plan" some just do it when the frame of mind hits them. BUT imo - he didn't commit suicide.

The girl who knew where the car was - I'm confused, were they still dating or were they broken up at this point?

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Chicogirl36 said:

FLmom- Im pretty sure that the family has checked this angle, but Im not 100%- I know we discussed it earlier with Sharon- good thinking!

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FLMom said:

Here's another question I've been thinking about. I have no clue how to look these things up.

Could there be a possibility that the missing cards may have been sold on Ebay? Is there a way to do a history search and see if any have been sold since Joe's missing date? I am a complete Ebay dunce or I'd try to search myself.

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