I was following this one too, and did you see? They found him! Perfectly safe, in Canada. Apparently he just got in his big van and drove away. So glad for his family that he was located. Just thought you would want to know, if you didn't.
TN - Gail Nowacki Palmgren, 44, Signal Mountain, 30 April 2011 - #12
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I was following this one too, and did you see? They found him! Perfectly safe, in Canada. Apparently he just got in his big van and drove away. So glad for his family that he was located. Just thought you would want to know, if you didn't.
IMHO..Could very well be since his mother and the girlfriend both lawyered up immediately...IMHO They are either covering for him or themselves...JMHo
If he claimed to LE that he was his mother's house, but actually wasn't there may explain why his mother retained a lawyer. Maybe? I could be wrong . . .
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Could be his cell was at his mother's house.....and he wasn't, imo.
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Yes I did see that! Thank goodness. Guess you really can't hide from the FBI. It is just so odd to me that LE seemed to devote so many resources to finding him right away when there was no more evidence than in Gail's case.
Pearl*, this post made me think of something else as well.
I had brought up fuel stations earlier, in as far as surveillance cameras and sightings- but I didn't think to sift through the ones that specifically don't have either along the possible routes of travel.
Thank you.
Off to try and narrow that down. Tank refills of fuel (at a station, by the fuel co) are federally regulated. Guess I should search that info.
Thanks again.
another example of how you are a Fountain of knowledge and information! Didn't know that. (I love having Oriah on my team!)
Aww, thanks redfish.
Now if only there weren't about 5 bazillion to sift through!! I'm going to try and start with just TN, AL, and GA.
Could be but IF he were my son and he claimed he was with me but he really wasn't I wouldn't lawyer up.. I would contact the authorities and tell them he wasn't with me...JMHO.
I'll willingly die for my children but I'm not going to lie or cover for them...JMHO
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That's a good theory. I would love to know why they retained lawyers. MP I could understand if he didn't want to incriminate himself for something unrelated. But MP's lawyers clearly talk to the media (and Jammer Scott) when they want to put info out, so IMHO isn't a case of MP worried LE would find out he was downloading bootlegs off the internet or something innocuous like that.
MP's mom got an attorney too, a guy who had his name removed from a news article after it was published. And the news said TH's lawyer was specifically a defense attorney:
http://timesfreepress.com/news/2011/jun/18/palmgren-consents-property-searches/?print
I know there was some question as to whether it was a defense or divorce attorney, but the Times Free Press says defense.
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I've done a fair amount of work in my professional life developing standards, processes, and procedures, primarily for various government agencies. It was primarily at the federal level, but I've also done state, county, city level.
Because of this, I know that every government agency has procedures for everything - and I do mean everything lol. I also know that when an agency or department develops their own procedures for something, they have to start with procedures they're required to follow, and procedures they must use as a basis, which usually are based on tried and true methods that work, best practices, etc.
So... with all this in mind, after failing to find anything online for Signal Mountain, Hamilton County, or TN for procedures, I decided to go for the next best thing - what an agency would be likely to use as at least a starting point for their missing person procedures.
I think I found it. I think it's CALEA 41.2.5 and CALEA 41.2.6.
I'm finding lots of agencies that cite it as a reference, and lots of agencies with exactly the same wording.
What I'm not finding - yet! - is the original CALEA Standard that I can be guaranteed hasn't been modified or adapted by an indivual agency.
I'll keep looking.
Meanwhile, if anyone is interested in reading through some of these documents, just Google CALEA 41.2.5 or 41.2.5 missing persons
Here are some examples of the documents you can find:
Phoenix PD:
http://phoenix.gov/police/missin1.html
Peoria AZ PD:
http://www.peoriaaz.gov/uploadedFiles/Peoriaaz/Departments/Police/Administration/4_29.pdf
Boardman Township PD:
http://www.boardmantwp.com/Police/documents/calea policies/158 Missing Person.pdf
In the course of my poking around, I also found this article:
When people go missing; Foul play or running away?
Posted Aug 16, 2010 @ 07:00 AM
Last update Aug 17, 2010 @ 10:44 AM
http://www.cantonrep.com/stark/canton/x2092793739/When-people-go-missing-Foul-play-or-running-away
Because of this, I know that every government agency has procedures for everything - and I do mean everything lol. I also know that when an agency or department develops their own procedures for something, they have to start with procedures they're required to follow, and procedures they must use as a basis, which usually are based on tried and true methods that work, best practices, etc.
So... with all this in mind, after failing to find anything online for Signal Mountain, Hamilton County, or TN for procedures, I decided to go for the next best thing - what an agency would be likely to use as at least a starting point for their missing person procedures.
I think I found it. I think it's CALEA 41.2.5 and CALEA 41.2.6.
I'm finding lots of agencies that cite it as a reference, and lots of agencies with exactly the same wording.
What I'm not finding - yet! - is the original CALEA Standard that I can be guaranteed hasn't been modified or adapted by an indivual agency.
I'll keep looking.
Meanwhile, if anyone is interested in reading through some of these documents, just Google CALEA 41.2.5 or 41.2.5 missing persons
Here are some examples of the documents you can find:
Phoenix PD:
http://phoenix.gov/police/missin1.html
Peoria AZ PD:
http://www.peoriaaz.gov/uploadedFiles/Peoriaaz/Departments/Police/Administration/4_29.pdf
Boardman Township PD:
http://www.boardmantwp.com/Police/documents/calea policies/158 Missing Person.pdf
In the course of my poking around, I also found this article:
When people go missing; Foul play or running away?
Posted Aug 16, 2010 @ 07:00 AM
Last update Aug 17, 2010 @ 10:44 AM
http://www.cantonrep.com/stark/canton/x2092793739/When-people-go-missing-Foul-play-or-running-away
Thanks Bean.
You know what I hope most people take from the last article you mentioned?
That it is frustrating as all get out trying to triage.
I realize some don't believe Gail was seen on Big Fork Road between 4:00 and 6:30 pm but I suspect the person CC claims she saw was indeed Gail...I also suspect Gail was being held against her will...LE needs to find the person/s who were with Gail that afternoon...
JMHO. http://wdef.com/video/new_possible_..._signal_mountain_mother_gail_palmgren/06/2011
JMHO. http://wdef.com/video/new_possible_..._signal_mountain_mother_gail_palmgren/06/2011
Good point! She had been calling the police on and off for a few days before her disappearance, because they were fighting and she felt it was getting out of control. Hmmmm
On another note, I wonder if child custody was part of their arguments.
I'm the same way. If you want to dance, you have to pay the fiddler!
However, some parents don't always see things that way. Also, MP may have talked her into it. Maybe he's paying for the lawyer too. I don't see why she really needs one though. This is what makes me wonder . . . . .
Just some thoughts.
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