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Old 12-31-2011, 01:55 AM
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3-Year-Old, Grandfather Dead After Murder-Suicide

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A 3-year-old boy and his 35-year-old grandfather are dead following an apparent murder-suicide in Erath County on Friday afternoon, according to the Stephenville Empire Tribune.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:15 AM
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A 3-year-old boy and his 35-year-old grandfather are dead following an apparent murder-suicide in Erath County on Friday afternoon, according to the Stephenville Empire Tribune.
He was a grandpa at 35 and his daughter is reported to be 15 which means she was 12 when she had this child.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:29 PM
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He was a grandpa at 35 and his daughter is reported to be 15 which means she was 12 when she had this child.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:44 PM
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Old 12-31-2011, 05:01 PM
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Wow...I'm trying to follow his line of thinking....he's mad at his daughter, because she's not home taking care of her child, so he takes the child and kills the child, and them himself?

There must be more here, than meets the eye.
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Old 12-31-2011, 05:17 PM
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While Torres was outside on the way to the car with Miguel in tow, he shot at his wife with a rifle, Bryant said, but missed.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/201...murder-suicid/

It almost sounds like jealousy situation.
One question I have is who was the father of the baby?
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:30 PM
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Man!! I have a New Years wish can we take care of our children.
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Ultra bizarre.
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[quote=mysteriew;7476224]While Torres was outside on the way to the car with Miguel in tow, he shot at his wife with a rifle, Bryant said, but missed.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/201...murder-suicid/

It almost sounds like jealousy situation.
One question I have is who was the father of the baby?[
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My thoughts exactly. I wonder if CPS was ever involved here.
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My thoughts exactly. I wonder if CPS was ever involved here.
She was TWELVE when this baby was born! I certainly hope CPS was involved here.

We have a family history of teen pregnancy. They either get pregnant before 18, or don't have kids at all.

If my 12 year old daughter comes home pregnant and wants to keep the baby... I am going to know I will be raising that child.
This isn't a 15 year old having a baby... it's a 12 year old.
This girl isn't even old enough to DRIVE and she's dealing with potty training.

This was totally irrational to expect a 12 year old to morph into a mother.
He should have known or been prepared for the possibility that, he'd be raising this child.
Unbelievable.
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:26 AM
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She was TWELVE when this baby was born! I certainly hope CPS was involved here.

We have a family history of teen pregnancy. They either get pregnant before 18, or don't have kids at all.

If my 12 year old daughter comes home pregnant and wants to keep the baby... I am going to know I will be raising that child.
This isn't a 15 year old having a baby... it's a 12 year old.
This girl isn't even old enough to DRIVE and she's dealing with potty training.

This was totally irrational to expect a 12 year old to morph into a mother.
He should have known or been prepared for the possibility that, he'd be raising this child.
Unbelievable.
My thought about CPS was more about the father's (the 12 year old's, so the baby's gf) relationship here. I'm wondering if there was a paternity test to see if he was excluded.
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:54 PM
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My thought about CPS was more about the father's (the 12 year old's, so the baby's gf) relationship here. I'm wondering if there was a paternity test to see if he was excluded.
Oh I know, but that wouldn't be much of a thought if it was a 15 year old, or a 17 year old.
At 12 years old, they hopefully shouldn't be dating and hopefully there shouldn't be a lot of options for baby's daddy.
If they just tested the DNA to see if it was a relative... as long as he's her biological father that would have been enough.
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