CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #5

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Found it on Thread #2 .... (I took the liberty to add spaces, just for easy reading) ...Thanks again Lily!!!! :)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7150397#post7150397
LilyMacBloom said:
take this for what you will

I bumped into my friend following is some points of interest:

-All important documents were found in AGs purse. There was no banking information in her purse, nor could LV find banking records in the house. LV had to go to major branches making enquiries and finally found AG banked at the Teachers Credit Union.

-AG paid for everything (including groceries) with a credit card, she did not debit. Once/month a withdrawl was made for several hundred dollars. She questioned what she would need that money for. (me assuming she paid PK in cash)

-LV purchased a new car and LE followed up asking questions where the monies came from etc. So clearly everyone is suspect.

-They were all shocked to find out about prior marriages over the several years she knew AG only fartface and AG mother in law was ever mentioned.
HER speculation/questions.
-something or someone made AG as paranoid as she was
-was AG in a witness protection program?
-was AG a CIA at some time? (me thinking of Chalk River)
-was AG being bribed, lending a helping hand (cash) to someone (ie: a secret pregnancy, child given up, recently reconnected?)

ummm...that's all I remember right now.
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Here is one article dated 4 January 2011 from the Hamilton Spec.

**There are items missing from Audrey's house, he says. What they are, he won't say. Valuables? Trophies?

Some items have been found during the ground searches. He again won't say what they are and adds detectives do not know for sure they relate to the homicide.**

http://www.thespec.com/news/crime/article/308663--a-complicated-vicious-killing
 
I'm reading another book about serial killers (yes, I read a lot!!) and last night I learned that the "trophies" taken by serial killers are always something personal. Like a photo, a wedding ring and often the sexual parts of the victim, both external parts and internal parts.

:what:
 
Here is an interesting comment from LF - the neighbor that is apparently the last person to have heard from AG.

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/a...ey-gleave-s-murder-and-neighbours-are-anxious

**The month has also been a time for reflection. Ferguson’s mom, Linda, who e-mailed back and forth with Gleave, has been going through past messages.

Ferguson said there was an e-mail about a month before her death in which Gleave described not wanting to go outside at night without her two big German shepherds.**

It got me wondering if AG was feeling more anxious at that time about something or someone.
 
Woodland said:
Here is an interesting comment from LF - the neighbor that is apparently the last person to have heard from AG.

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/a...ey-gleave-s-murder-and-neighbours-are-anxious

**The month has also been a time for reflection. Ferguson’s mom, Linda, who e-mailed back and forth with Gleave, has been going through past messages.

Ferguson said there was an e-mail about a month before her death in which Gleave described not wanting to go outside at night without her two big German shepherds.**

It got me wondering if AG was feeling more anxious at that time about something or someone.
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WOW, now I'm wondering if Audrey had been threatened or did she learn that someone from her past was nearby.

This is extremely interesting.......

But, did AG also tell PK of these feelings? Or, was LF the only one in whom AG confided? If so, why?
 
Woodland said:
Here is an interesting comment from LF - the neighbor that is apparently the last person to have heard from AG.

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/a...ey-gleave-s-murder-and-neighbours-are-anxious

**The month has also been a time for reflection. Ferguson’s mom, Linda, who e-mailed back and forth with Gleave, has been going through past messages.

Ferguson said there was an e-mail about a month before her death in which Gleave described not wanting to go outside at night without her two big German shepherds.**

It got me wondering if AG was feeling more anxious at that time about something or someone.
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Also according to PK, it was "about a month before she died" that her mailbox was vandalized:

... About a month before she died, vandals had busted up her old one, he said ...
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from:
http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/596070--who-killed-audrey-gleave
 
This has always bothered me a bit (re convo between DLS and his sister):

from:
http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/596070--who-killed-audrey-gleave

&#8220;Dave,&#8221; she told him, &#8220;You might want to think about getting a lawyer. You're under investigation for Ms. Audrey Gleave's murder.&#8221;

&#8220;Who?&#8221;

That was his first reaction: Who?

He got upset. He told Deb maybe he knows someone who had been out that way. Why don't the police come and talk to him, he might be able to help?
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Was he generally just trying to be helpful, or was he hinting that he perhaps had knowledge of a specific individual?
 
I've also been thinking that DLS might have knowledge of someone lurking about AG's place, doing the vandalism, bothering her, etc. but he'd be too afraid to come forward for fear of being arrested (which he was!).

I wonder if DLS could NOW speak with LE and tell them everything he knows.

I've also been thinking that AG's killer might have used the barn in which DLS was living. That barn could have been used for a change of clothes, a place to hide out. And the killer possibly knew that LE would pin the entire thing on DLS.

Horrible, really horrible.
 
I just watched "Murder She Solved" on OWN channel about the killer David Snow. Many coincidences:

- Orangeville (Sonia, Shelley)
- horrific attacks against women
- the movie they made about his life was shot in Dundas (not far from AG's home, Ancaster)

This all got my mind working........you don't think........:what:

Am I losing it or what?
 
No_Stone_Unturned said:
I just watched "Murder She Solved" on OWN channel about the killer David Snow. Many coincidences:

- Orangeville (Sonia, Shelley)
- horrific attacks against women
- the movie they made about his life was shot in Dundas (not far from AG's home, Ancaster)

This all got my mind working........you don't think........:what:

Am I losing it or what?
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I'm not sure what you are meaning NSU, but David Snow should still be in prison.
 
Thought of AG when there was an arrest for the bomb package killing of the Innisfail, Alberta woman confined to a wheelchair - motive was money.
 
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/05/30/dangerous-offender-status-sought-for-orangeville-man
"The Crown is moving to indefinitely imprison an Orangeville truck-driver who savagely tried to kill two female store clerks in separate but eerily-similar attacks in 2009.

Robert Francis Richards pleaded guilty to attempted murder and other charges earlier this week for a May 28, 2009 attack on 26-year-old Etobicoke flower shop-owner Veronica Kazmierczak.

Richards strangled Kazmierczak with a computer cable, punched her almost to unconsciousness and stabbed her before she escaped"
 
sillybilly said:
I'm not sure what you are meaning NSU, but David Snow should still be in prison.
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sillybilly said:
I'm not sure what you are meaning NSU, but David Snow should still be in prison.
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Hi Sillybilly and NSU:
I had at first the same question, SB, but I imagine, NSU, you were suggesting a copy cat connection? One of Snow's victims was a nuse and one a photoshop owner: "A former hostage testified yesterday that accused double murderer David Snow pointed a handgun to her face, asking, 'Do you want me to show you what I can do to you?' The 26-year-old woman said Snow posed as a customer seeking a family portrait at her East Hastings Ave. photo shop in Vancouver" (http://afriendofthefamilymovie.blogspot.ca/) which made me think initially of Sonia Varaschin and Shelley Loder, especially. But I think that might be a bit coincidental? A book about Snow was published in April 2010, before the crimes against Sonia, Shelley and Audrey, so I gather that's perhaps what you were thinking -- a kind of not-quite copy-cat approach? I'm not sure, NSU, but would be interested to hear more of your speculations.
 
sillybilly said:
I'm not sure what you are meaning NSU, but David Snow should still be in prison.
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Yes, he is still in prison but I'm so desperate for AG to have justice I'm merely grabbing at anything that could link a killer to her.

And FWIW, the profiler on that show I watched was bang on with David Snow. So - I'm sticking with young and close for AG's killer.

:what:
 
Meantime, a followup on a earlier posting about an aggresive internet troll and I do not mean LM ,although this also stems from Montreal.

"Markuze was arrested in August after complaints were filed against him by people whose opinions, posted online, were constantly attacked. He disagreed with traditional scientific beliefs on issues like evolution, and threatened people for their views. According to a statement of facts read to Quebec Court Judge Louise Bourdeau before she rendered her sentence, Markuze specifically targeted people he believed were atheists.

In one threat Markuze posted he wrote: &#8220;Die f--cking atheists. I will cut your heads off.&#8221;

A large group of the people he threatened teamed up on social networks like Facebook and identified Markuze even though he always used a fake name when he threatened them online"


Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news...rnet+threats/6715505/story.html#ixzz1wpyimwrj
 
Gosh, I am trying to see, trying my best to see, that Audrey was a random victim, I need to really think about that.

DW
 
Sorry I cannot find a thread and this is an important find in Hamilton..
http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/737204--felicia-floriani-s-body-found-10-years-later
Felicia Floriani’s body found 10 years later


MISSING Susan Gourley and Felicia Floriani disappeared a decade ago.
Hamilton Spectator file photo



Police say the body found in a field in West Lincoln six weeks ago is that of teenaged Hamilton sex worker Felicia Floriani.

Police believe her body has been in the farmer's field for the last decade. She was not buried.

Police will not disclose cause of death. She was identified through dental records
 
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/04/remains-identified-as-missing-teen-presumed-murdered
Police believed eight attacks going back to 2001 were linked to the same man, who killed 19-year-old prostitute Kimlyn Tolgyes and left her body in a Burlington, Ont., park in 2002. Her killer was never found.

The task force disbanded after a year, when all leads were exhausted.

According to the Hamilton Police website, Floriani had a history of running away and was known to support herself as a sex-trade worker.

It is believed she was last seen by friends and relatives in September of 2002 and had not been heard from since, the website states.

Partially clothed skeletal remains were found by a farmer working in a field on April 19.

The farmer, Mark Moesker, told QMI Agency he was stunned to find the remains while clearing garbage and brush from a field. He said the area where the body was found is difficult to access and is off in the corner of his land. It’s not a place he typically went, he said
 
The remains of this young woman were found within walking distance of my house. When they were found I thought of maybe Shana Carter. At least Miss Florianis family now knows after all these years.
 
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