CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #2

momtective said:

Jessica's backpack was found in an area that appears to be near two bodies of water, the Standley Lake and the Great Western Reservoir. I wonder how secluded these areas are and if they have been searched.

Click to expand...

iamnotagolem said:

That's what I'm trying to figure out. Because it's a huge gap between July 13 to October 5. I wonder if there are others, or I wonder if something happened to trigger him escalating. Job loss? Divorce?

Is there a way we can open a thread to discuss these links without distracting from the current threads? I don't really want to post on all three threads finding similarities, is there somewhere we can discuss this without interrupting the current search for Jessica?

Click to expand...

Originally Posted by Knox
It's a horrible pandemic, it just keeps spreading.

Click to expand...

JeannaT said:

It seems like that, because in the US we are very very focused on child snatchers, and we as a specific group are here at WS because we are even more focused than the public in general.

Child abductions by strangers haven't changed in rate since statistics have been kept, about 1940.

It's not more common than it used to be - we're just much more able to be aware due to much greater media access.

Each time it happens it's horrific - but although it appears it's spreading it actually isn't.

Click to expand...

Tracey4AU said:

Twitter

Rick Sallinger ‏@ricksallinger
Parents of #Jessicaridgeway to read statement to media pool later today

Click to expand...

ErinGrrrl said:

Kenny Holmes 7News @KHOLMESlive
The family of #jessicaridgeway will be addressing the public via taped interview. Police hope to have that arranged and released by 1pm.

So they are taping the interview?

Click to expand...

6. At approximately 8:15 p.m., the Park County Dispatch Center received a report of an 11 year old female walking down Spirit Mountain Road (also known as the Carter Mountain Access Road), which is located off the South Fork road (State Highway 291) just outside Cody. Shortly thereafter, it was confirmed that the found female was Katelynn Groves.
7. Katelynn reported that when she approached the suspect vehicle, the suspect brandished a ”pistol” and directed her to get into the front passenger seat of his vehicle.
8. The suspect then drove the victim onto Carter Mountain where he sexually assaulted her.
9. Upon her release by the suspect, she began walking down the road until she was picked up by a party of hunters hunting in the area.

Click to expand...

sfbaynancydrew said:

I have a bad feeling he left Katelynn for dead. If it's the same perp he could have tossed Jessica's backpack out on his way out of town and who knows where she could be. I hope for little Jessica that it's a different perp.

Click to expand...

gam said:

http://www.cityofcody-wy.gov/archives/45/OG - 12-225 Abduction of Katelynn _RN507.pdf

According to this report

He released Katelynn and the hunters found her walking down the road.



This does not make it sound like he left Katelynn for dead.

Click to expand...

nervous_nellie said:

if it is the same person, he let #2 go...did he think she was dead and went on his way or did he just let her go? im eager to hear the rest of the story.

if he just let her go, then if he would happen to be the same perp in westminster then where would he just let jessica go at? its not far from the foothills and the "middle of nowhere" types of places that if she were on foot i dont know how long she could make it without finding help... or this time he thought she was dead and she really was unlike katelynn...all moo, of course

Click to expand...

gam said:

http://www.cityofcody-wy.gov/archives/45/OG - 12-225 Abduction of Katelynn _RN507.pdf

According to this report

He released Katelynn and the hunters found her walking down the road.



This does not make it sound like he left Katelynn for dead.

Click to expand...

TreeClimbingGirl said:

From what I've read, the WY victim was left for dead It's a miracle she was found, she was beaten and left in the wilderness, found by hunters through the grace of God but she is very, very lucky to be alive.

Cody WY and Westminster CO are about 8 hours apart.

IF the two are related, it makes me wonder if he is fleeing to Canada.

(All IMO, MOO, pure speculation on my part)

Click to expand...

gliving said:

New pic of Jessica. She has a little dog.

http://twitter.com/MitchJelniker/status/255691222105083904/photo/1

Click to expand...

otto said:

Your comment reminds me of the Joanna Yeates case in Bristol. Her body was found on a rural road that seemed to have no connection to anything, but she was killed elsewhere. It seemed that the perp had taken her there to distance himself from the crime. As it turned out, the murderer was her neighbor - living on the other side of the wall in their apartment building. Karen Swift is another example of the perp taking the evidence and spreading it in various locations away from the last place she was seen (home).

I think you're right in that the backpack was placed in a location that is meant to lead investigators away from the real evidence. One thing that I've noticed during map searches is that in the district where Jessica was abducted, property values are in the $150-200k range, but the backpack was left a district where property values are in the $350-400 range. I'm wondering how that factors into everything. Not only is the backpack left 6 miles away, but also in an area where standard of living is quite different - what would that suggest about the perp?

Click to expand...

TreeClimbingGirl said:

I've heard different accounts of this, saying that she was in a very desolate area and was beaten as well as sexually assaulted.

JMO, but it would be very unlikely that someone who kidnapped and raped a little girl and made no attempt to disguise his identity would just let her walk away like that. Not saying it can't happen, but it would be very unusual.

(Also, just using your post as a jumping off point, I think that since she is a minor and a rape victim we should probably stop using her name now that she's been found)

Click to expand...

threecrazykids said:

I too am seeing errie connections between Lyric and Elizabeth and this case. I would love a thread on what connections we can make...

Friday disappearances
Left behind purse/backpack
Nearby Lakes
Family life (living with Grandma/aunts etc)

Click to expand...

woodlawn said:

I posted my 'theory' (if that's not too dignified a word for it) some pages ago, so won't repeat, but I'm in general agreement with what you've said and am working from the premise the person responsible for this is local, lives in Jessica's neighborhood, and is familiar with both areas. Re: the difference in home values possibly signifying something, I'll just offer here that statistically, the 'typical' person who commits these kinds of crimes is a male loser under 30 who is both socially and professionally quite marginal. A number of those kinds of jobs (eg landscaper) involve driving to more upscale neighborhoods to perform the work. There could be any number of reasons why the neighborhood was chosen to leave the backpack, but that the perpetrator was familiar with that area from his work (current or past) is the first thing that springs to my mind.

Click to expand...