"Who would leave children that young alone?"

[SapphireSteel]

Originally Posted by Tink

Speaking of "who would leave a child alone" - I was reading the statements of Jeremy, Gerry's friend from tennis who stopped to talk to him that night. I noticed that Jeremy and his wife left their two children in the creche when they went to the Tapas restaurant, and that one of the creche staff came and notified them when their child woke up and cried for them. That's what I call reasonable, caring parents.

And then the next night, when Jeremy's little boy wasn't sleeping, he took him out for a walk in the pram to help him get to sleep. Yes, another example of Jeremy as a caring father. Was out walking him when he ran into Gerry, who makes what sounds to me like a bit of snarky remark: "Oh, you're on walking duty." Jeremy says that he and his wife are staying in their flat that evening. Gerry says that if he's on a two-week holiday, he'd only stay in maybe one night.

I wish perhaps Gerry had learned something from Jeremy's example.

And Jeremy did not see Jane Tanner or a man carrying a child.

Tink

The Jeremy/Gerry chat is interesting for another reason too.

Gerry went to the apartment, performed his "check", went to the toilet, and says that he believes the "abductor" was actually in the apartment at the time.

Gerry then goes downstairs, and bumps into Jez.

They stand at the bottom of the stairs while they talk.

The stairs they allege Madeleine was carried down.

How on earth could they have missed Madeleine being carried down the stairs only metres away from where they were standing?

The answer is, of course, they couldn't miss it, if it had actually happened.

They think everyone is so stupid.

:banghead:

[Tink]

I thought their suggestion was that Madeleine was taken out the front door?

Or wasn't there a suggestion that she must have been either passed out the window or that the person climbed out of the window with her? Because otherwise why was the window open?

(And wouldn't someone notice a person climbing in and out of a window with a child?)

I was just struck by the difference between Jeremy (who behaved the way I would expect a parent to behave: arranging care for his young children if he wanted to eat out, responding quickly when the child woke and cried, taking his child out in the pram to help him get to sleep) and Gerry (who felt it was just fine to leave his kids alone all evening, who was unconcerned about the children waking and crying for long periods of time, and who made rather mocking comments about a father who sought to soothe a restless baby, insisting that he (Gerry) would be out every evening on holidays (apparently no matter what that might mean to his children who were left alone)).

Tink

[SapphireSteel]

Originally Posted by Tink

I thought their suggestion was that Madeleine was taken out the front door?

Or wasn't there a suggestion that she must have been either passed out the window or that the person climbed out of the window with her? Because otherwise why was the window open?

(And wouldn't someone notice a person climbing in and out of a window with a child?)

I was just struck by the difference between Jeremy (who behaved the way I would expect a parent to behave: arranging care for his young children if he wanted to eat out, responding quickly when the child woke and cried, taking his child out in the pram to help him get to sleep) and Gerry (who felt it was just fine to leave his kids alone all evening, who was unconcerned about the children waking and crying for long periods of time, and who made rather mocking comments about a father who sought to soothe a restless baby, insisting that he (Gerry) would be out every evening on holidays (apparently no matter what that might mean to his children who were left alone)).

Tink

It changed.

On 4 May Gerry's sworn statement said he entered the FRONT door, using a key.

By the time of their "Madeleine was here" video it had changed to them using the BACK door (patio door) to avoid waking the kids with the noise.

The back/patio door was unlocked and David Payne used it for his check.

So why would the McCanns alone "go the long way", all the way around to the FRONT, to use their key when the back (nearest) door was already open?

(the front being the street side, not the Tapas Restaurant side).

Makes no sense at all either way.

[SapphireSteel]

A mother in the US left her children in the care of a 13yo baby sitter in the middle of the day so she could go to church, and she was arrested and charged with child endangerment as a result.

http://newcanaan.patch.com/articles/chimney-scam

A church going mother gets arrested even though she had a babysitter. Two doctors go scott free, even though they didn't bother to get any sort of babysitter at all.

How did this happen?

Why weren't the McCanns charged with neglect or endangerment?

We KNOW Madeleine was endangered, she disappeared, and they left the twins in danger too.