FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #6

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LOL! I agree... I think that if there was anything in those pictures to "see", LE would see it (them) and follow up on what they could. I'm sure they or the FBI has a program that can enhance those pictures to the best they can be... and that they have used it and have seen what they can see.

I also originally said the same thing about the 5'3" to 5'5" height estimate. Check my first post or so in an earlier thread. I said I couldn't believe both the Orlando police and FBI could screw up something something so fundamental. The others here showed it was quite wrong.

Just one last thing. I called this in to the police when I found it, I have a confirmation number and I posted it in my thoughts while working on this, and a massive first ever of its kind investigation of the Orange County Sheriffs Department use of taser guns, accounting for every use of them, was announced the next day, in the Tuesday newspaper for Monday's announcement. I called the police on Sunday.

It was referred to again just the other day. The Orlando Sentinel says they refuse to say what triggered the investigation. As I had emailed Jogn Cutter the Orlando Sentinel before I called the police, before I found the sheriffs patch, they know, of course, but the feds aren't saying just yet so that's what there is to report.

Have to get off to work. Thanks for the words, left. Sorry you can't see everything yet. I will try to help if I can.

regards,
rd
 
Rd, I'm putting your contact information in a legal document in case anything ever happens to me..I want you looking for me with access to ALL information [all of you are awesome...] =)
 
Anything is possible for sure. Some of us can see what you are seeing and some of us can't. It's as simple as that. I do hope that LE is looking into it nonetheless.

There are a lot of people in Orlando and from around Florida who have been really involved in this case from the beginning and want Jenn brought home- good or bad. She deserves that. I do agree that all LE's need to get on the same page and treat every single person as a missing person until proven otherwise. Look at the time wasted on Kelly Nolan. Because of her past, a DUI charge, LE did not immediately think she was in danger. Why can't LE listen to people first and then worry about the rest later? If she had regular contact with family and friends, then that's a red flag when she doesn't. Treat it like a missing person rather then a runaway. LE needs to get on the ball all over America. Maybe then we'll find people.
 
Just a suggestion on the line around the neck, which I see without any issue. If the person is wearing sunglasses which I would expect, perhaps it is a croakie, leash, string, whatever you want to call it, attached to the glasses.
 
LOL! I agree... I think that if there was anything in those pictures to "see", LE would see it (them) and follow up on what they could. I'm sure they or the FBI has a program that can enhance those pictures to the best they can be... and that they have used it and have seen what they can see.


You are exactly correct.


Go To Link:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,273616,00.html

Quotes from On The Record with Greta Van Susteren, May 18, 2007:

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN: "All right. The video that you're now releasing today, is it in any way enhanced so that you can see the person's face?"

SGT. BARBARA JONES, ORLANDO POLICE DEPARTMENT: "We did look at the video and we did try to get it to the best quality that we could. The detectives looked at it very closely... "

AND

Go to Link:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2007/05/questions_and_a_1.html

Quote from OrlandoSentinel.com Questions and answers in the Kesse case, May 17, 2007:

"Police did work with experts to enhance the images, but despite all the cool stuff we see in CSI, this is -- as far as we know -- the best we get..."
 
Yes, CatLynette, the long range shots are really bad and I didn't try to do anything with it. I had seen the quote from a graphics specialist the poilce retained to determine what was on the head in the photos at the gate, and they said they think it's a hat, they weren't sure. You should quote that, too.

This is what it is. It won't go away because someone doesn't believe it's there because the police didn't find it.

Quite frankly, it's hard to find. But once found, it's irrefutable. It's there.

Rd, I'm putting your contact information in a legal document in case anything ever happens to me..I want you looking for me with access to ALL information [all of you are awesome...] =)

I think internet sleuthers are an awesome bunch. I dearly hope no one has to look for you or me, but thanks. :)

rd
 
You are exactly correct.


Go To Link:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,273616,00.html

Quotes from On The Record with Greta Van Susteren, May 18, 2007:

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN: "All right. The video that you're now releasing today, is it in any way enhanced so that you can see the person's face?"

SGT. BARBARA JONES, ORLANDO POLICE DEPARTMENT: "We did look at the video and we did try to get it to the best quality that we could. The detectives looked at it very closely... "

AND

Go to Link:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2007/05/questions_and_a_1.html

Quote from OrlandoSentinel.com Questions and answers in the Kesse case, May 17, 2007:

"Police did work with experts to enhance the images, but despite all the cool stuff we see in CSI, this is -- as far as we know -- the best we get..."

Thanks, Cat! LE really aren't as dumb or as lax as some want to believe... just because they don't always publicize all they do, doesn't mean they're not doing it...
 
Just to clarify, I never said anything like that, and called the police immediately with what I found. If they already knew it and don't need it, that's fine. They were not offended. I'm not sure why you are.

rd
 
rd,

Thank you for calling it in.
I took another look at the third frame and I see what you're saying about his face.

Check your PM.
thanks~
 
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2004/chevrolet/malibu/specifications/

overall height (inches): 57.5
Jenn's car was 4 ft 8 inches approx.

This would mean that the poi being 5'3-5'5 could be a possibility. I wouldn't discount the fact that the poi/suspect is taller, but theoretically the poi could be the height mentioned by LE. I'm going to review the video again and agonizingly starte at the photos AGAIN to see if I can see the face.

rd- I do appreciate the work you are doing to try and help Jenn and am happy you called this into LE as maybe they are looking at it all over again. Jenn has been missing for 77 weeks now and needs to be found.

I'm still not completely convinced on the taser holster, sheriff's badge, etc. but I am starting to see a face..
 
So, aside from the rendered pics discussion . . . . has anyone seen a pic of the perps wife in this case? I am curious to see if she even comes close in build to the POI publicly released pic. And when or if they show him and his family on the news at his court appearances I am curious to see if any of the family or friends in court match.

". . .FHP troopers say 54-year-old Marcus Young apologized for kidnapping a woman. . ."
http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=58907
 
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2004/chevrolet/malibu/specifications/

overall height (inches): 57.5
Jenn's car was 4 ft 8 inches approx.

This would mean that the poi being 5'3-5'5 could be a possibility. I wouldn't discount the fact that the poi/suspect is taller, but theoretically the poi could be the height mentioned by LE. I'm going to review the video again and agonizingly starte at the photos AGAIN to see if I can see the face.

rd- I do appreciate the work you are doing to try and help Jenn and am happy you called this into LE as maybe they are looking at it all over again. Jenn has been missing for 77 weeks now and needs to be found.

I'm still not completely convinced on the taser holster, sheriff's badge, etc. but I am starting to see a face..

UCF:

Don't you agree that the only way to settle issue regarding the height, is to go back out to HOTG, and do some re-enactments.

Have people of different heights, get out of a chevy Malibu, so the same walk as the POI, and stroll past the pool gate.

Then, blow up the photo's, and compare the pictures with the one's released to the public right after JK disappeared.

I think the evidence of the POI next to JK's car is going to be tough to judge, since the camera is so far away.

I think the best bet is the use comparisons of the camera at the pool gate.

I think it, and the photo of the POI next to the tree, will definitely suggest the POI is taller than 5"4.

However, unless, we go back out and do experiments, we'll never know.

Since this is such a huge clue, I just don't understand why LE isn't using this device.

show me the downside?

Not only that, but, we can test for the color of clothing, the headgear, to see if writing on shirts shows up, test different types of shoes, and also if the POI is more likely a man, or woman, based on photo's.

IMO, when all is said and done, I think the POI will turn out to be male, 25ish, 5"8-6ft, 160, with brown or dirty blonde hair, cut like a surfer's in back.

Plus, we can have the "model" look back at the camera in the third photo by the tree, and see if it is distinguishable on film, or if it is an optical illusion.

Something else, is to see if the POI is carrying a duffel bag, or envelope, ipod, or anything in his hands, if it shows up on the photo's.

Another item to look out for, is to get a better feel of the pants, are they blue jeans, sweats, or do they just appear to be high on the POI due to the angle of the camera.

I can think of countless items that can be better understood by spending just a few hours at HOTG. Not to mention, checking the clocks on the camera, to see if LE does have it right, since it does appear the video is awful dark for a daytime shot.

Any one of these clues, could just break this case open. IMO

Just my opinion

left
 
I wonder if LE is just holding back that info. It's soooo frustrating... it drives me batty. I wouldn't rule out 5'8 but if so, that's a whole foot taller then her car. I don't know... the height I don't think is totally off... just a smidge or so.

I truly don't think HOTG really wants people parading around there doing all types of measurements, but it might be something you want to email LE and see if they respond... :)
 
I don't know anything about the height compared to the car, because quite frankly my little video thing that comes up for that is next to worthless, but the height compared to the tree is practically gold. He is 5'9" to 5"11" compared to being back a little from that 7' tree, no doubt.

I do not understand the camera time at all. Unless I'm missing something, the time in both photo one and photo two is 28 seconds, and photo three is 29 seconds.

The being off by one hour thing is commonplace, but with seconds counting down like that, were the hours accurate?

rd
 
Just a suggestion on the line around the neck, which I see without any issue. If the person is wearing sunglasses which I would expect, perhaps it is a croakie, leash, string, whatever you want to call it, attached to the glasses.

It is just too doggone straight and wide to be something like that, but not dark enough to be solid leather or something. Being straight across his throat in photo three just rules out anything that droops like a leash or string.

rd
 
It is just too doggone straight and wide to be something like that, but not dark enough to be solid leather or something. Being straight across his throat in photo three just rules out anything that droops like a leash or string.

rd
Please provide the photo showing it across the throat, I haven't seen anything showing a throat.
 
Hi BB, I've been posting all those details last few pages, gave the link again a couple of pages back. I gave very detailed instructions on looking at his face in photo three on previous page, which includes the line across his throat.

I can provide any info you want, but don't want people to have to wade through anything twice that I've already posted.

regards,
rd
 
Hi BB, I've been posting all those details last few pages, gave the link again a couple of pages back. I gave very detailed instructions on looking at his face in photo three on previous page, which includes the line across his throat.

I can provide any info you want, but don't want people to have to wade through anything twice that I've already posted.

regards,
rd
Gotcha. Have you been seeing faint double images like you would get with ur camera when taking action pictures?
 
Yes, it's confusing. For example, the county sheriff's shoulder patch overlaps the logo on the front of the jersey in photo one, apparently in that case as he swung his arm.

I think that's the main case of time lapse blur I saw. Did you see another?

rd
 
Yes, it's confusing. For example, the county sheriff's shoulder patch overlaps the logo on the front of the jersey in photo one, apparently in that case as he swung his arm.

I think that's the main case of time lapse blur I saw. Did you see another?

rd
second photo. between post and back of head. faint image of profile.
post/slight image/back of head. very faint.
 
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