Hi, I am new here and posting for the first time, though I have been reading and following the posts on Tori's disappearance/abduction for some time. Astrology has been a love since the age of 16. I am now 51. Having said that, I am still very much a student astrologer, and have focused on myself, family, friends and relationships on/off through the years, dependent very much on time availability (single working mom). Haven't dabbled in anything like I've read on here, and am amazed at the posts and ability of the astrologers posting.
My friend strongly suggests this little girl was already dead (by the next day) when details of the circumstances and news reports were out that she was missing. When we discussed further, she also indicated strong feelings that TLM was greatly infatuated with MR, and he was probably becoming more and more sexually aggressive with her in their relationship. This suggestion could be supported by some of the media's reporting from people that were previously involved with MR, one I read stating that he was into bondage, sadism, and was "aggressive". Similarities may exist and have been suggested by some that this is like the Karla Homolka/Paul Bernardo saga.
Continuing - the little girl knew TLM, or at least who she was, as opposed to what has been reported in the media, that only Tori's mother knew of TLM through the dog breeding conversations. I should point out, that one news report suggests that Tori's mom even suggested the strap seen over TLM's shoulder in the surveillance video may have been the strap/leash belonging to her dog (which are of the shih-tzu breed = small dog) - something else for the sleuths to ponder perhaps, (rather than a purse, which bumping against her leg or side might have accounted for the gait of this woman in the video) as another way to draw Tori to "willingly" go/leave with TLM. Media reports state that Tori "loved all animals", dogs, cats, horses, etc. If this is a possibility, than it is highly probable that Tori would have been more easily led away. Now, no one has confirmed that TLM was walking along with a dog in tow, but I thought I'd put it out there.
My friend feels that Tori only knew she was in trouble, once she was "in the car", and that the two accused immediately drove away from the Woodstock vicinity, and obviously to what we have come to know as "to the Guelph area". In answer to my question of where is she, her remains, she suggests that MR - sorry to be graphic here - after raping, and sexually molesting her, he more than likely killed her (strangulation) and in disposing of her remains, possibly dismembered. Now remember, he used to work at a meat-processing plant in the Guelph area (and having lived in Guelph myself for almost 9 years, back to 5 years ago), I would suggest this would have probably been at what is known as "Better Beef Ltd." For the record, it's also reported that while in Guelph he worked at a landscaping firm (to me, conjuring dirt and digging - might equal digging a grave?) and was reportedly a good employee when his former boss was contacted.
Note the age differences - Tori - 8, TLM most reports suggest she's 18. And, of course, MR is 28. Going from Tori as the victim at 8 years moving up 10 years to TLM, and another 10 to MR. Has this struck anyone else?
My friend feels MR would have turned into a serial killer (like Paul Bernardo) Tori being most likely his first conquest. TLM was just young, stupid, infatuated, and "luckily" was caught and recorded in the video. Otherwise, can you imagine? It could possibly have went on and continued with others.
If MR did as my friend suggests, and that the two then drove around (and by this time it was later at night - at least dark - MR knowing the Guelph area, went with Tori's remains in the trunk, stopping along the way, here and there, disposing of her "body parts". This in answer to my question of why were the police looking in Rockwood, Ontario, and are now all the way in the Fergus/Belwood area? As a note, again from living in Guelph myself, Rockwood is a popular conservation area (lake - beach - summertime - youth) and one that surely MR knew well enough, and most likely had been to. Same possibility exists with Belwood (Belwood Lake) and even Guelph (Guelph Lake).
Continuing (sorry, I'm long-winded, and it's a fault of mine) - she feels the police have already found something like "an arm", but if TLM is going from memory (my input here) in supposedly wanting to help, the foilage/landscape has changed since April the 8th. As reported in the news media, winter's breath had not departed, and now everything is green and in bloom, and if it was nighttime, this would add to TLM's difficulty in knowing one area from the next. Rock piles figure prominently, but are not uncommonly found throughout the area, in farmer's fields, etc. A previous poster (sorry, I'm thinking it was Tuba) indicated in one post, that something should have been found by now. So, my point here is, that probably something has been, but obviously not Tori's entire remains. Also to note, that shortly after the "recovery mission" for Tori's remains had begun, a forensic van was reported to be at the mother's home, asking for a tooth (which Tori wanted her mother to keep), and recently worn clothing/shoes were collected, to establish a DNA profile for Tori. This would tie into that they perhaps already have "something" to check? Though nothing has been confirmed or reported, yet. Thoughts from others? Tuba?
Also, in this same timeline - various car wash places in Guelph were being examined.Again continuing, the police have the car - a 2003 Honda Civic, and could unequivocally confirm that there indeed had been a "murder". My thinking is a car wash could not completely wipe out "evidence".
Another complicating factor to make note of: (Tuba again is right on, about twists and turns, and I concur, they have only begun, probably in comparison to what will eventually come out). It's been noted, that the police were given TLM's name as a possible suspect to investigate (by more than one party - the neighbour girl and her friend, as well as Tori's own mother). Reports indicate that TLM went into custody on a probation violation on April the 12th, and by the time the police got their tips, and then acted on it, they had interviewed her twice. The first time, asking her to "walk", to compare her gait to the one seen in the video. It matched. At the second interview, is when TLM reportedly made some admissions to the police, and it was that same night when the arrests of TLM and MR were made, and the parents were notified, and then the media informed and reported the next day. However, TLM found out that MR was seeing another girl on the "outside", while she was stuck in the "inside", and that this is what caused her to "speak up", and not anything else. She wanted revenge on MR. If in fact she was so infatuated with him, and helped and planned to provide him with Tori for his own nefarious reasons, then it stands to reason how TLM would be very angry to find out he was "seeing another girl/woman". Tuba indicates a darker chart with TLM, and that MR is not - at least upon, first glance. (again, not trying to lessen MR's role here in any way).
Something else to note - MR made reference to (Facebook?) that if he could, he would go back to change the last 5 years. Anyone else come across this reference? That he had regrets of some kind, but for what is my question? What is he referring to? What - and did something happen? Is he referring to a past relationship? Event?
Proven liar: Richmond Ontario High School, but that school reports he was there for a brief period of time - 95/96 and had in fact, only obtained one school credit for that time.
Varying reports about oxy - from the media reports about Tori's own mother's history of drug use, and her eventual admission to her own addiction to it, to suggestions that her and her boyfriend James bought oxy from TLM?
Thanks for reading all this, if you're still with me, and interested in feedback on the possibility I've outlined, as my friend suggests, that Tori's remains may unfortunately not all be in one piece.
So, is it a wild goose chase the police are on with TLM, or does she genuinely (her lawyer purports) want to help bring Tori's remains back to her parents for closure? And, of course, the difficulty is complicated by the time of year then, on April the 8th, and now, and that we might be looking in more than one location?
I'd appreciate any input and thoughts. And, if this holds water, or holds true, can any of you work on the very difficult task of location(s)?
As for the court time for arraignment, I work in the courthouse, though not in Woodstock, but a closer-lying community, a bit larger than Woodstock. I don't have any connection to other co-workers in the provincial government that work in Woodstock to ask, to better help pinpoint the time of their matter being called, but based on my jurisdiction, yes, ten o'clock is the start time, but that doesn't always mean it's exact. If it was a list and bail court, which I assume was and might be the case, the list is supposed to go from 9 to 10, but of course can go longer. Then, time is needed for the courtroom clerk to do their paperwork before bail court starts. Some days require a bit more time than others. However, my thinking is that allowing for a smaller jurisdiction than where I sit and work, and knowing the high profile of the matter, and media attention, the court would probably certainly put this matter as the first one on the docket to address before other ones, to keep judicial order in the courtroom and court decorum, etc. So, if someone can even verify, the time (through a media outlet/reporter/news station of when the video was taken during their exit - was it after 11 for example? Before 11? Around ten thirty, perhaps, this might help pinpoint just when - at least between what time period as a possible start and finish to when this matter was addressed.
It could very well have lasted just a matter of 2-3 minutes, as it was remanded to April 28th. So the window of time, could be possibly narrowed, if it's crucial for the forensic astroligists on here to be more exact for their calculations and readings. If in the meantime, I can discreetly inquire and find out (I think I know somebody that knows somebody, but it will be touchy to ask, but I can't say for sure, if I can, or will be successful to follow this avenue) and I don't think Woodstock has gone digital yet, but may still be using the old analog equipment. (Digital would be much better, because it's date stamped as the courtroom reporter logs his/her notes to each proceeding matter, along with the fact that the entire proceeding is being "recorded", which in fact, is what is considered "the record". So, if analog, it's written log notes by the courtroom reporters (sans times), but if it's digital (date time stamps are automatically recorded, and the reporter will key in her log notes, occasionally, hitting a new start time for each section she types her notes (just a roadmap of sorts to the proceedings, which helps when a playback is requested - not to often, and also assists, when the official transcript of a proceeding is requested, and the courtroom reporter uses this only as a guide to typing a verbatim transcript - notes change of speakers, context of what was said, noting "key words", start of arraignment, when facts were read in, testimony begins, for who, whether it's in-chief, cross-examination, or re-examination, judge's finding of guilt, judge's reasons for sentence, or reasons for judgment, when there was a recess, or if the matter was stood down, etc.) Obviously the start time of each new matter is "recorded and entered", which would be "most accurate".
Okay, that's it. Again, my apologies for the long dialogue.
