CA CA - Sylmar (Lopez Cyn), WhtFem 587UFCA, 18-25, Purple Bell-Bottoms, Apr'76

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Ambercat said:
NamUs is the only website that lists her height --

It also lists her weight as being measured at 130 lbs.

https://identifyus.org/cases/4452
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Oh, okay. I mostly looked at the Doe Network site(where height is not listed), and as I'm not from the US, I have to calculate it online for it to make sense to me if it's only listed in inches. So 5 foot 5, or 1,65 metres, right? Will edit the post now. Thanks for adding the info!

EDIT: Couldn't fix my original post, so I'll just add my thoughts here.

That means that Edna is a bit smaller than the UID, but as she disappeared at only fifteen years of age, she might have grown a few inches and put on weight.
Sherry Lynn Pickle is also one inch shorter and weighs less, but I've seen cases with bigger discrepansies listed as possible matches before. Except for the scar on her foot, she fits the facts on the Doenetwork case listing well to me.
 
I know that Phyllis Berry went missing from Texas in November 1975, but something about her reminded me of this UID. https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2927/28/
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Sleuthster said:
Made me think of Rodney Alcala. I wonder if this could be one of his victims? There was a pic of a girl in Purple Bell bottoms on his site but I think she was found alive? Does anyone know?
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Yes - the purple bells girl from the Alcala photos was ID'd and is still alive. Prior to her coming forward, there was a lot of discussion that she might be this UID. Her clothing matched almost perfectly to the description of the UID's clothing.
 
CarlK90245 said:
Phyllis Berry had gapped teeth. There is no mention of gapped teeth on the UID. Also, there is no mention that Phyllis had a crown on her upper front tooth.
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NamUs says
Status: Dental information / charting is available and entered
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but didn't actually have anything viewable. Maybe I had just been staring at the computer for long.
 
Ambercat said:
NamUs says but didn't actually have anything viewable. Maybe I had just been staring at the computer for long.
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It's mentioned in her Charley Project page.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/berry_phyllis.html

She has a slight space between her upper front teeth.
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There's a dental chart on this Jane Doe's DoeNetwork page (click the word "Available" where it says "Dentals: Available).

http://doenetwork.org/cases/587ufca.html

The chart indicates several spaces between various lower teeth, but no mention of a gap between 8 & 9.
 
CarlK90245 said:
It's mentioned in her Charley Project page.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/berry_phyllis.html



There's a dental chart on this Jane Doe's DoeNetwork page (click the word "Available" where it says "Dentals: Available).

http://doenetwork.org/cases/587ufca.html

The chart indicates spaces between her lower-left 20, 21, and 22 teeth, but no mention of a gap between 8 & 9.
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Thanks! I hadn't checked her page on the Charley Project. :blushing: This is a reminder to me to check multiple sources.
 
Looking at the enlarged photo of Phyllis Berry, it looks like the gap is between 7 & 8 (like Arroyo Grande JD), not between 8 & 9. But she clearly is not AGJD.

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Kodiak said:
Could LASD Jane Doe Number 25 be Sallie Margaret Reed? The Sketch of JD #25 has the same facial shape as Sallie Reed, and both have same hair and eye color. Sallie went missing a 02/76, and JD #25 was discovered 4/76.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/reed_sallie.html

http://doenetwork.org/cases/587ufca.html
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Good find. Jane Doe has the same facial features as Sallie Reed.

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Sallie Margaret Reed
Missing since 1976-02-19 from Thibodaux, Lafourche Parish, Louisiana

Vital Statistics

Date of Birth: 19 Oct 1953
Age at time: 22
Estimated Height: unknown
Estimated Weight: 110 lbs
Hair Color: brown
Eye Color: brown
Race: White
Sex: Female
Dental Availability: No
DNA Availability: No
LSU Case Number: 120
 
Bumping case up. She has remained unidentified for over 36 years...



Unidentified White Female
The victim was discovered on April 11, 1976 in Los Angeles County, California
Estimated Date of Death: a few days prior

Vital Statistics


Estimated age: 16-26 years old (most likely 20)
Approximate Height and Weight: 100-120 lbs
Distinguishing Characteristics: Mid-back length brown hair, with blond traces near scalp; brown eyes, plucked eyebrows. A one inch vertical scar 3 inches below right knee cap. Small build. No tattoos.
Dentals: Available. Victim has a full silver cap on left upper first molar, with lower right front molar missing for some time.

Clothing: Tan multicolored print blouse, with rust colored tree figures, long sleeves with elastic cuffs, worn midriff style, size medium. Labeled "styled in California". No brassier found. Purple bell-bottom trousers with 2 inch wide cuffs, with two metal snaps and zipper in front, labeled "male" made in USA, also wearing light green panties with "Thursday" embroidered in darker green stitching; black clog shoes with heavy leather straps, 4 inch high solid heels with 3/4 inch crepe soles. Found near the victim was a brown, cotton suede jacket with white wool collar and cuffs. Labeled" Londontown by Checkpoint", second label marked "RN504858 made in Taiwan". No jewelry.
Clothing & Shoe

Case History

The victim was located in a remote canyon area 90 feet west of a paved portion of Lopez Canyon road.

Investigators
If you have any information about this case please contact:

LASD Homicide/Cold Case Unit
Richard Kennerly
323-890-5500

You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

Coroner Case Number:
76-4631

LASD Case Number: 1976-01038-1254-011 / Jane Doe # 25

NCIC Number:
U-809763297

Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

Source Information:

LASD Homicide/Cold Case Unit
The Doe Network: Case File 587UFCA

LINK:

http://doenetwork.org/cases/587ufca.html
 
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I was thinking about this UID and had wondered if she could have been hiding from someone and she had dyed her hair from blonde to brown (her hair reportedly had traces of blonde at the scalp). Maybe they caught up with her in the end and it didn't go well.
 
I did a NAMUS comparison with this UID and Missing Persons.

One person that came up that has not been discussed is Sarah Tokier.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tokier_sarah.html

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/5091/13

Very little information is on Sarah. Missing persons report she was last seen sometime in 1977, but her NAMUS MP file says she was last seen January 1, 1976.

Height, weight and age are within range. She disappeared from San Bernadino which is about 60 miles away.
 
joeytes said:
I did a NAMUS comparison with this UID and Missing Persons.

One person that came up that has not been discussed is Sarah Tokier.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tokier_sarah.html

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/5091/13

Very little information is on Sarah. Missing persons report she was last seen sometime in 1977, but her NAMUS MP file says she was last seen January 1, 1976.

Height, weight and age are within range. She disappeared from San Bernadino which is about 60 miles away.
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NamUs says she was last seen in Montebello, CA which is in Los Angeles County and a lot closer to where the unidentified woman was found. I'm not sure if this is a typo, though, because the San Bernardino Sheriff's department is investigating her disappearance.
 
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