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Anyway, back on topic...I find the use of the word "mechanical," as kind of strange. I picture a mechanic when I say that word...like engines, machines, that kind of thing. Technical, yes...I picture computers, etc., and that I understand, but mechanical?

.I find the use of the word "mechanical," as kind of strange. I picture a mechanic when I say that word...like engines, machines, that kind of thing.

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Maybe mechanical could be forensic testing? Perhaps that would be more technical...but I could see forensic as a possible meaning for mechanical. Or perhaps mechanical is meant in a more basic old-school, feet to the pavement sleuthing, while technical is meant to cover things like forensics and computers?

SurfieTX said:

Anyway, back on topic...I find the use of the word "mechanical," as kind of strange. I picture a mechanic when I say that word...like engines, machines, that kind of thing. Technical, yes...I picture computers, etc., and that I understand, but mechanical?

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I'm thinking they are looking at Bank Accounts, Computers, Cell Phone records, etc...

I think they are going over as many videos as they can find or get. She was out and about that day, this we know. If they can spot her truck or zoom in and see if Kyron and the baby are with her maybe just maybe they can figure out where she went or if she even had him in the truck after 9. I think they are scouring over every video frame to find one clip of her and where she went that day.

Bern said:

I think they are going over as many videos as they can find or get. She was out and about that day, this we know. If they can spot her truck or zoom in and see if Kyron and the baby are with her maybe just maybe they can figure out where she went or if she even had him in the truck after 9. I think they are scouring over every video frame to find one clip of her and where she went that day.

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Good Point!

SurfieTX said:

Anyway, back on topic...I find the use of the word "mechanical," as kind of strange. I picture a mechanic when I say that word...like engines, machines, that kind of thing. Technical, yes...I picture computers, etc., and that I understand, but mechanical?

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ITA Surfie.... that word got my vivid imagination working overtime... when I think mechanical, I think equipment with engines. I would think when searching for a missing child you would use ground, air, ATV searches - things of that nature. IDK...:waitasec:

eyes4crime said:

Kaine brought Terri in to watch Kyron when Terri went to Canada for Treatment. He ended up marring her and having a baby girl. I highly doubt Terri could get away with all this lying and deceit, hateful, vengeful feelings about children for 6 years. Why now is there such an epiphany regarding Terri? Seems convenient.

In no way am I saying Terri didn't take part in the disappearance, she may have or she may not have. Facts are scarce in this case. However, to suddenly realize your partner of 8 years is a compulsive liar and that she is capable of hating and hurting children is suspect, at least to me. Maybe he simply didn't pay attention to her in the marriage and missed it all - now that's possible. moo

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Just because someone is a compulsive liar doesn't make them a killer.

A friend of mine's ex would lie. He was a druggie. She divorced him 30 some years ago and has a friendly relationship with him.

I know him as well and he really is a nice guy. Messed up from Vietnam, but poor husband material.

Liar does not equal killer. How would KH/DY ever guess that?

Cheewawa007 said:

Do you think she was being honest when she said the LE wouldn't share with her husband (a detective) what's going on in the case? I think they are like a brotherhood (LE) regardless of what county they work for, they would still fill him in on specifics that aren't shared with the media or general public.... moo

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Yes, I can believe LE wouldn't share the principles of the investigation with DY's hubby, even if he is in law enforcement.
First, I don't think they want him involved with the case because they don't know what he would do or if he would go off on his own to do his own police work. He would be far too emotionally involved to really be helpful.
I think LE is sharing certain points with him and maybe an overview of what tatics they will or are using. But I'm sure it's surface information. Nothing too involved.

Besides, since he's a trained LE, he's probably got a pretty good idea of what's going on anyway.

I believe LE's investigation has gone further than any of us realize. And they can't as usually take chances of having anything or anyone taking it off track. JMO

I have searched and searched, but I cannot find where it says that you can get info from a car as to where it's been. Maybe that's what is meant as well.

There is some kind of device built into cars nowadays that does this. I don't mean a GPS that a person buys, but rather they come from the factory that way.

eyes4crime said:

Kaine brought Terri in to watch Kyron when Terri went to Canada for Treatment. He ended up marring her and having a baby girl. I highly doubt Terri could get away with all this lying and deceit, hateful, vengeful feelings about children for 6 years. Why now is there such an epiphany regarding Terri? Seems convenient.

In no way am I saying Terri didn't take part in the disappearance, she may have or she may not have. Facts are scarce in this case. However, to suddenly realize your partner of 8 years is a compulsive liar and that she is capable of hating and hurting children is suspect, at least to me. Maybe he simply didn't pay attention to her in the marriage and missed it all - now that's possible. moo

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http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/09/kaine-horman-kyrons-stepmom-walked-out-on-polygraph/
　
He said he never previously saw anything seriously amiss with his wife or his family.

Looking at the definitions of those words, it sounds to me like they're trying to find Kyron and solve this case in every way possible.

mechanical; pertaining to, or controlled or effected by, physical forces.
technical; concerned with or dwelling on technicalities: You're getting too technical for me.

ie every detail.

As Cypress and others said above, those statements "mechanical and technical" mean the nuts 'n bolts of police/detective work. Mechanical is the step-by-step gumshoe type things that detectives do. Technical is the computer, forensic, scientific things that are done in cases. Both types of investigation work occur simultaneously with different people doing different specialty tasks.

That would include:

- conducting interviews

- looking for physical evidence in all known or suspected crime scene areas and then having any possible evidence analyzed by crime scene technicians or crime labs, along with getting basic DNA profiles of Kyron, TMH, KH and other family members so they have reference samples.

- forensic examination of computer hard drives, files, CD or other media for any and all computers TMH or KH had access to.

- going through any paper files, bank statements, financial records, phone records, receipts...all trying to piece together the movements of TMH and (probably) KH too and perhaps ancillary people like the landscaper.

- all the things that cops do including writing lots of reports, amassing case files for documentation, meeting with FBI, meeting with the DA, etc, etc.

It's not like CSI or the TV crime shows where things are miraculously solved in 1 hr. Most police work is nitty gritty tedious stuff.

(SBM)

eyes4crime said:

..... I highly doubt Terri could get away with all this lying and deceit, hateful, vengeful feelings about children for 6 years......
However, to suddenly realize your partner of 8 years is a compulsive liar and that she is capable of hating and hurting children is suspect, at least to me. moo

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In "my experience", things don't happen overnight. I am sure TH's personality flaws and behaviors have deteriorated OVER TIME, and this is why it took something major to finally notice all the oddities and put them together. Kind of like a lobster being placed in a pot of water....feels great at first, but you don't realize you're cooking til you're dead...

I also feel it's possible/likely that Desiree was perhaps less vocal, and reluctant to bring up her concerns about TH so as not to come off as the "woman scorned".

After all Kaine did not seem to notice the pathology of Terri until far too late, and was probably not receptive to hearing negativity at that time.

Pathology of this nature requires life learned masquerading ability. TH didn't just "snap", IMO, but I do feel anger at Kaine absolutely fueled this.

It would not surprise me if he were having an affair, as previously alledged, but also wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't.

Cheewawa007 said:

BBM: Exactly - that's what makes me think they have some kind of information that leads them to believe Kyron is still alive. Maybe the person mailed Kyron's glasses or something of his to someone, letting them know he is being held.... wishful thinking on my part obviously, but still, it is a possibility, don't you think?

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I think if someone did something like that it would've been in the news in hopes someone may have direct knowledge and turn in the kidnapper.

Did we ever learn what Desiree's work or profession is? She spoke of how good it was to see her "team" from work upon her recent visit to Medford. That made me think she might also be in the tech field? I don't recall if we've ever learned, but wondered if in all the recent exposure Desiree has had if anyone heard or read about her line of work?

Reason being, when she said this, it sounded a bit like a techie talking - to immediately differentiate between mechanical and technical - when asked the question. She also assumed her audience understood her... when many lay persons would not...

I would think that:

Technical investigative work (IMO) being electronic data, computer forensics, cell pings, and actual forensic lab work - collection of raw digital and scientific data and it's analysis.

Mechanical investigative LE work (IMO) being all other manner of traditional police investigation, personal information gathering, history, video review, interviewing, witness statements, fact checking, psych profiling, analysis - including physical searches, and even comparing witness statements to the layout of the school, scene reconstruction, developing timelines, etc..

Although Desiree did not define these terms...that's my best guess at what she meant...
I would imagine the LE teams dealing with each investigative area might be entirely different teams of specialists in some cases.

Desire seemed to quip this answer effortlessly - making me think it was not scripted. Desire is also married to someone in the field, and these terms may be familiar to her. Even so, Desire strikes me as an educated, logical person with strong communication skills - I wonder if she works in a technical field herself...

I also take it as an indication that Desiree, Kaine and Tony are kept extremly well informed relative to investigation detail, as well as being consulted frequently - such that they understand & are comfortable with the various aspects of the investigation.

SleuthyGal said:

As Cypress and others said above, those statements "mechanical and technical" mean the nuts 'n bolts of police/detective work. Mechanical is the step-by-step gumshoe type things that detectives do. Technical is the computer, forensic, scientific things that are done in cases. Both types of investigation work occur simultaneously with different people doing different specialty tasks.

That would include:

- conducting interviews

- looking for physical evidence in all known or suspected crime scene areas and then having any possible evidence analyzed by crime scene technicians or crime labs, along with getting basic DNA profiles of Kyron, TMH, KH and other family members so they have reference samples.

- forensic examination of computer hard drives, files, CD or other media for any and all computers TMH or KH had access to.

- going through any paper files, bank statements, financial records, phone records, receipts...all trying to piece together the movements of TMH and (probably) KH too and perhaps ancillary people like the landscaper.

- all the things that cops do including writing lots of reports, amassing case files for documentation, meeting with FBI, meeting with the DA, etc, etc.

It's not like CSI or the TV crime shows where things are miraculously solved in 1 hr. Most police work is nitty gritty tedious stuff.

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sleuthy gal, I'm sorry I see that I just repeat-posted so much similar to your thoughts there... I was interrupted in writing my post and missed yours...and we pretty much have the same interpretation...:highfive: I owe ya a coke, maybe 2 - emma

Isn't it possible she used the word mechanical to mean systematic, or following a predetermined process? It's not just used literally. :twocents:

SleuthyGal said:

As Cypress and others said above, those statements "mechanical and technical" mean the nuts 'n bolts of police/detective work. Mechanical is the step-by-step gumshoe type things that detectives do. Technical is the computer, forensic, scientific things that are done in cases. Both types of investigation work occur simultaneously with different people doing different specialty tasks.

That would include:

- conducting interviews

- looking for physical evidence in all known or suspected crime scene areas and then having any possible evidence analyzed by crime scene technicians or crime labs, along with getting basic DNA profiles of Kyron, TMH, KH and other family members so they have reference samples.

- forensic examination of computer hard drives, files, CD or other media for any and all computers TMH or KH had access to.

- going through any paper files, bank statements, financial records, phone records, receipts...all trying to piece together the movements of TMH and (probably) KH too and perhaps ancillary people like the landscaper.

- all the things that cops do including writing lots of reports, amassing case files for documentation, meeting with FBI, meeting with the DA, etc, etc.

It's not like CSI or the TV crime shows where things are miraculously solved in 1 hr. Most police work is nitty gritty tedious stuff.

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Yes, that's what I mean. Sorry to have duplicated efforts...

Dunno but my first thought was that LE is doing mechanical work as in checking and re-checking witness statements, questionnaire answers, surveillance camera footage, re-interviewing people etc., rather routine stuff as opposed to undercover murder-for-hire stings and other dramatical stuff.

nurseratchett said:

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In "my experience", things don't happen overnight. I am sure TH's personality flaws and behaviors have deteriorated OVER TIME, and this is why it took something major to finally notice all the oddities and put them together. Kind of like a lobster being placed in a pot of water....feels great at first, but you don't realize you're cooking til you're dead...

I also feel it's possible/likely that Desiree was perhaps less vocal, and reluctant to bring up her concerns about TH so as not to come off as the "woman scorned".

After all Kaine did not seem to notice the pathology of Terri until far too late, and was probably not receptive to hearing negativity at that time.

Pathology of this nature requires life learned masquerading ability. TH didn't just "snap", IMO, but I do feel anger at Kaine absolutely fueled this.

It would not surprise me if he were having an affair, as previously alledged, but also wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't.

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ITA. Of course, simply put, if we could spot killers before they killed, we'd have a lot less murders.

I think people are being genuine when they appear shocked that a family member injured or killed anyone, much less a child. We don't want to believe that of our relatives (obviously); add to that the "it can't happen to me" mentality, and it makes perfect sense.