Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #11

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ey-john-hillsley/story-fni0cx12-1227402386747

The court heard Spedding and his wife Margaret have offered “their savings” of $100,000 in surety that the Crown says is “generous” but “insufficient to satisfy the bail concerns.”

The Crown says there is concern that Spedding could come into contact with children given his job as a white goods repairman.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ey-john-hillsley/story-fni0cx12-1227402386747

(Locking the gate after the horse has bolted)
 
And I thought at some stage it was mentioned that the victims were also related to BS? Or was it the property they were at, at the time, that was owned by a relative??

Are you referring to the victims of BS or the ex-relative? I'm a bit lost here.
 
given that JH was out on parole and parole was revoked a month later when he was reported to have had inappropriate contact with young girls....one wonders aloud if he was victimizing his own children....makes me sad to think that this is a case of repeated abuse of young victims by more than one perp mooo

On Louis Theroux's LA Stories this week they featured sex offenders. One man was interviewed who admitted to raping his own sons as a form of retaliation toward his wife who was having an affair. When I heard that I thought of the fate of those sons who grew up living with the actions of their father and whether or not they went on to repeat what they went through. Very sad.
 
Mr O’Brien told the court that the accusations which Spedding now faces have been previously investigated and Mr Spedding was cleared.

"The Crown case is not a strong one," Mr O'Brien.

Mr O'Brien said the allegations were made amid "a hothouse of suspicion" and "sinister overtones", and that there was "an atmosphere" of "coaching and tutoring" the young girls that Spedding was "a naughty man who did bad things."

The "tutoring and coaching" of what a normal mother would say to her children.....if that's a crime well I'm guilty too.



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ey-john-hillsley/story-fni0cx12-1227402386747

But he wasn't cleared was he. At the time the case didn't make it to court due to the stress it would cause the young girls.
 
I wonder if O'Brien is talking about the allegations being made amid "a hothouse of suspicion" and "sinister overtones", being these allegations being brought up recently during WT investigation.
Mr O’Brien told the court that the accusations which Spedding now faces have been previously investigated and Mr Spedding was cleared.

"The Crown case is not a strong one," Mr O'Brien.

Mr O'Brien said the allegations were made amid "a hothouse of suspicion" and "sinister overtones", and that there was "an atmosphere" of "coaching and tutoring" the young girls that Spedding was "a naughty man who did bad things."

The "tutoring and coaching" of what a normal mother would say to her children.....if that's a crime well I'm guilty too.



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ey-john-hillsley/story-fni0cx12-1227402386747
 
I am now reading this article in a different way. I always thought that the article indicated that there were more children involved in the police notes, now I think it is outlining what happened to the 2 victims but it is misleading, whether that is poor reporting of MSM or police, who can say?
April 24

In the course of obtaining victim statements police were made aware of further disturbing allegations of children being involved in witnessing or performing sex acts on each other, with another male adult present, or the giving of the victim by (Spedding) to another male adult associate for sexual purposes,” the police facts read.

http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...-appear-in-court/story-fns0kb1g-1227316450596
 
Except that they are not the ones who brought the allegations to light are they, it seems the mother of the children in BS and MS care did that, 2 1/2 years ago It was after WT went missing that the girls (women now) alerted police. I can't find the report now but it was in MSM

Dept of Family and Community Services investigated the allegations against BS in 1987. They referred them to police the court heard no action was taken.

O’Brien said he did not have a transcript of the original police interview with his client, which must exist. “We don’t even have the mother’s original complaint to investigators back in 1987,” he said.

Maybe it was not the mother that put in the original complaint to the police.
Maybe it was facs - Could they have been investigating due to the brothers involvement with girls and things were said about others?
imo

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...-seeks-bail-over-historical-sex-abuse-charges
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-case-seeks-bail/story-e6frg6nf-1227402309568
 
hmmm technical... I could ring crimestoppers and make allegations against the FP in the WT case. They might be investigated and they might be cleared. Does that mean you are not officially clear until you stand trial and are found not guilty?
But he wasn't cleared was he. At the time the case didn't make it to court due to the stress it would cause the young girls.
 
hmmm technical... I could ring crimestoppers and make allegations against the FP in the WT case. They might be investigated and they might be cleared. Does that mean you are not officially clear until you stand trial and are found not guilty?

I understand what you are saying Frogwell the only difference between what you suggest and the BS case is there is documented medical evidence. I'm afraid in a case of child abuse / paedophilia I would believe the child first until the perpetrator was otherwise proven innocent.
I know that goes against innocent until proven guilty.
 
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