Armchair psych profile and personal background

I have not seen / read this anyone have a link- thanx!
one aunt said in the interview in the coffee shop plus other stuff reported

Yeh, that supports the notion regarding the importance of his childhood, family dynamics,mental illiness concerns, and abuse histories many have discussed here !

Yeh, that supports the notion regarding the importance of his childhood, family dynamics,mental illiness concerns, and abuse histories many have discussed here !

You may be right but IMO, if they haven't seen Eric Newman in years; I doubt they'll be called.

I disagree; it is irrelevant which way they "go". MENTAL ILLINESS will be the ONLY issue in the trial.

The who, what, where and when have been answered- see video for further info!

Mental illness is the only thing the trial will be about, because it is the only entity that can answer the why.

CARIIS said:

You may be right but IMO, if they haven't seen Eric Newman in years; I doubt they'll be called.

I disagree; it is irrelevant which way they "go". MENTAL ILLINESS will be the ONLY issue in the trial.

The who, what, where and when have been answered- see video for further info!

Mental illness is the only thing the trial will be about, because it is the only entity that can answer the why.

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No. Not all murder cases are based on why (motive). As a matter of fact, the why isn't even necessary. Yes, helpful but not necessary.

The facts of the case will determine guilty or not guilty.

Facts as we know as of today:

1) Alleged video

2) Alleged murder posted on Best Gore (evidenced by the owner)

3) Body parts found in a suitcase where alleged murderer was staying

4) Blood and other evidece recovered at the crime scene. Alleged murderer's apartment.

5) Alleged murderer fled the country to avoid capture.

And much much much more we don't even know about YET which will be discovered at trial

Mental health will only be an issue if it's brought up by the defence. If so, the prosecution will be ready. They already have all they need, imo

imo
alleged video (there is no doubt as to its existence!)

Alleged murder (a murder occurred, a body was located)

Posted on Best Gore–owner has said, “I posted this video on line”)

Blood and other evidence recovered at the crime scene. Alleged murderer's apartment. (DNA)

Alleged murderer fled the country to avoid capture. (nothing to be “discovered”-here?)


And much much much more we don't even know about YET which will be discovered at trial

Mental health will only be an issue if it's brought up by the defence. If so, the prosecution will be ready. They already have all they need, imo[/QUOTE]

CARIIS said:

I also think that he made money dealing drugs, however dealing does not lend itself to interviews on the job of the week broadcasts!

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What evidence do you have to support this?

We know of not a single friend or acquaintance he's had in the past 18 months. The neighbors never mentioned frequent traffic in and out of his apartment.

Let's just throw things against the wall and see what sticks ...

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NO! The trial will NOT be about mental illness. It will be about (to add to ~n/t~'s list):

- diabolical behaviour

- murder - pure and simple

- disregard for human beings/animals

- indignity to a human body

- harassing the Prime Minister of Canada

- mailing horrific materials

- interrupting schools (Vancouver) and political offices (Ottawa)

- on and on and on...........

Quite frankly, I don't know why there's a suggestion that mental illness is the only thing involved here.

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~n/t~ said:

Sounds like he's been in Montreal longer than 5 months (??) Even up to a year from Feb 2011? Does that make sense? Did he stalk Jun Lin for a year?

No 411 listings for Luka Magnotta or Luka Rocco Magnotta. There are at least 25 for E. Newman across Canada. Hard to say which one is Eric Newman aka Magnotta.

ETA: I don't think he had a house phone. Also, I noticed the apartments rented were furnished and internet, utilities included which means he didn't have to register his name anywhere!ie Bell Canada or Hydro Quebec

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~n/t~ In some of the 6/24 articles quoting the landlord of his previous apartment it was mentioned that the former complex and victim's workplace were very close (1km I think).

With your personal knowledge of the area, would this be the closest convenience store to his old complex?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I recall Magnotta is a smoker which would likely mean frequent trips to a convenience store.



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No_Stone_Unturned said:

NO! The trial will NOT be about mental illness. It will be about (to add to ~n/t~'s list):

- diabolical behaviour

- murder - pure and simple

- disregard for human beings/animals

- indignity to a human body

- harassing the Prime Minister of Canada

- mailing horrific materials

- interrupting schools (Vancouver) and political offices (Ottawa)

- on and on and on...........

Quite frankly, I don't know why there's a suggestion that mental illness is the only thing involved here.

:jail:

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Thank you No Stone for that great, logical, well thought out post which, given your vast knowledge of the Canadian legal system is probably exactly what will happen.

I've actually have started praying that when finally evaluated he's found completely free of mental illness and just an evil person. Why? It would make me so happy to debunk many of the never ending gibberish based on nothing but crazy speculation not based in fact that I've read in the media and other places (take the w off the word where and you'll know what I mean)...




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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I recall Magnotta is a smoker which would likely mean frequent trips to a convenience store.

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This is exactly what I mentioned when we had the old thread up and why I thought that he had met Jun Lin at the corner store and not via Craig List. I am sure he more than likely struck up a conversation with him, perhaps LM had his camera with him at the time. Jun Lin loved photograpy, it was written on his facebook page. They probably discussed cinametography as well as Jun Lin was also interested in this. Jun Lin was probably the only "friend" that LM had, how sad :-(

Mbshafeena said:

This is exactly what I mentioned when we had the old thread up and why I thought that he had met Jun Lin at the corner store and not via Craig List. I am sure he more than likely struck up a conversation with him, perhaps LM had his camera with him at the time. Jun Lin loved photograpy, it was written on his facebook page. They probably discussed cinametography as well as Jun Lin was also interested in this. Jun Lin was probably the only "friend" that LM had, how sad :-(

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It's a great theory Mbshafeena, I appreciate you sharing it.

Based on what you've learned, do you think Jun/Justin was the type to strike up a conversation with a stranger/customer?
I ask because Magnotta doesn't strike me as someone who likes to chat up strangers unless he's hiding behind the glow of his computer monitor; I bet he misses that monitor...

Hopefully one of the awesome Montreal members with detailed knowledge of the area might be able to decipher if this convenience store would be the one Magnotta was most likely to frequent.





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Detailed article about book concerning all manner of gay violence(purchased at U of Toronto)
http://www.xtra.ca/public/Ottawa/Spilling_our_blood-634.aspx


"Janoff examines more than 100 queer homicides in Canada. Through that lens, he documents the responses of government, the police and the court system.

But he doesn't stop there. He also turns the spotlight onto the queer community itself, documenting the general apathy that exists outside a handful of dedicated activists.

Janoff draws his material from media databases, academic research and from hundreds of interviews with queer-bashing victims, family and friends of homicide victims, activists, criminal justice workers, academics, journalists and others.

The book is an academic one, following faithfully from its genesis in Janoff's criminology master's thesis at Simon Fraser University.

Accordingly, it opens with his methodology, his research as he sets the stage for examining the horrors that have been inflicted on queers in Canada.

Murder is never pretty and Janoff makes no attempt to whitewash the brutality. The book's dedication is to the victims, their names listed at the front of the book. A typical reader may know one or two, perhaps more, of the 121 people listed. The sheer volume of the list makes a powerful impact all its own.

The work, says Janoff, has been a labour of love. He began covering homophobic violence as a freelance journalist. He found the level of research wanting".

Pink Blood: Homophobic Violence in Canada: Amazon.ca: Douglas Victor Janoff

HastingsChi said:

Thank you No Stone for that great, logical, well thought out post which, given your vast knowledge of the Canadian legal system is probably exactly what will happen.

I've actually have started praying that when finally evaluated he's found completely free of mental illness and just an evil person. Why? It would make me so happy to debunk many of the never ending gibberish based on nothing but crazy speculation not based in fact that I've read in the media and other places (take the w off the word where and you'll know what I mean)...




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And thank you! (Yes, I took the w off)! :lol:

Throwing things and hoping they stick!

What evidence do you have to support this? RE: Post #767



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Jun 1, 2012 – Nina Arsenault. Arsenault also said Magnotta used methamphetamine
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www.healthyplace.com/personality.../narcissistic-personality-disorder


So, in sum:
We are exploring an individual who was involved with him (Nia0) and his peers while the vocations he was involved are highly involved in that lifestyle , through in addictive (blog /sex/*advertiser censored*) behavior history and mental illness which is highly correlated with substance abuse.

Since we have no verifiable income streams IMO, there is a credible notion that using and dealing drugs is not all that farfetched, Imo.

No_Stone_Unturned said:

NO! The trial will NOT be about mental illness. It will be about (to add to ~n/t~'s list):

- diabolical behaviour

- murder - pure and simple

- disregard for human beings/animals

- indignity to a human body

- harassing the Prime Minister of Canada

- mailing horrific materials

- interrupting schools (Vancouver) and political offices (Ottawa)

- on and on and on...........

Quite frankly, I don't know why there's a suggestion that mental illness is the only thing involved here.

:jail:

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IMO,
All the abovementioned are a result of mental illiness. And the odd part about the entire case is we know everything unlike a typical murder investigation. Video pretty well eradicates the need for the defense to defend:


- On video we see murder, - disregard for human beings/animals- indignity to a human body

-On video we see the boxes being mailed and received by the Prime Minister of Canada. Same for second mailing etc. etc.

HastingsChi said:

Thank you No Stone for that great, logical, well thought out post which, given your vast knowledge of the Canadian legal system is probably exactly what will happen.

I've actually have started praying that when finally evaluated he's found completely free of mental illness and just an evil person. Why? It would make me so happy to debunk many of the never ending gibberish based on nothing but crazy speculation not based in fact that I've read in the media and other places (take the w off the word where and you'll know what I mean)...




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Very creative !
(take the w off the word where and you'll know what I mean)...

HastingsChi said:

It's a great theory Mbshafeena, I appreciate you sharing it.

Based on what you've learned, do you think Jun/Justin was the type to strike up a conversation with a stranger/customer?
I ask because Magnotta doesn't strike me as someone who likes to chat up strangers unless he's hiding behind the glow of his computer monitor; I bet he misses that monitor...

Hopefully one of the awesome Montreal members with detailed knowledge of the area might be able to decipher if this convenience store would be the one Magnotta was most likely to frequent.





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Evidence to support this?

I ask because Magnotta doesn't strike me as someone who likes to chat up strangers

dotr said:

Detailed article about book concerning all manner of gay violence(purchased at U of Toronto)
http://www.xtra.ca/public/Ottawa/Spilling_our_blood-634.aspx


"Janoff examines more than 100 queer homicides in Canada. Through that lens, he documents the responses of government, the police and the court system.

But he doesn't stop there. He also turns the spotlight onto the queer community itself, documenting the general apathy that exists outside a handful of dedicated activists.

Janoff draws his material from media databases, academic research and from hundreds of interviews with queer-bashing victims, family and friends of homicide victims, activists, criminal justice workers, academics, journalists and others.

The book is an academic one, following faithfully from its genesis in Janoff's criminology master's thesis at Simon Fraser University.

Accordingly, it opens with his methodology, his research as he sets the stage for examining the horrors that have been inflicted on queers in Canada.

Murder is never pretty and Janoff makes no attempt to whitewash the brutality. The book's dedication is to the victims, their names listed at the front of the book. A typical reader may know one or two, perhaps more, of the 121 people listed. The sheer volume of the list makes a powerful impact all its own.

The work, says Janoff, has been a labour of love. He began covering homophobic violence as a freelance journalist. He found the level of research wanting".

Pink Blood: Homophobic Violence in Canada: Amazon.ca: Douglas Victor Janoff: [email]Books

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Oh my, IMO, queer offensive, one notch below f*g jmo!