Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL* #2

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Just saw this on the MSN Homepage:

Knox will not return to Italy for re-trial :

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...l-not-return-to-italy-for-murder-retrial?lite



CNN covering story also :

Family: Amanda Knox won't return to Italy for new trial

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/24/world/europe/amanda-knox-italy-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


David Marriott said Knox had never agreed to attend, and there's "no requirement she be there." Still, there remains the possibility that Italy could request her extradition from the United States.


David Marriott is NOT a lawyer -- he is her PR rep :rolleyes:

So ... if you are "innocent" why do you need a PR rep ? :rolleyes:

:cow:
 
dog.gone.cute said:
So ... if you are "innocent" why do you need a PR rep ?
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Early in November 2007 the father of Amanda Knox called Gogerty Marriott to ask for assistance with the barrage of media calls the family was getting from around the world. His daughter, Amanda, had been arrested and imprisoned in Perugia, Italy for the murder of her British flat mate, Meredith Kercher.

From that day forward, there has been continuous intense pressure from national and international media to talk with members of the family about their daughter. Gogerty Marriott has sought to relieve as much of the media pressure from the family’s shoulders as possible. At the same time we balanced the family’s need to have the truth told about their daughter’s innocence with that of the legal constraints of her trial and now her appeal. All the media accounts and leaks of inaccurate information occurred within the framework of a markedly different legal system than that in the United States. At the same time, we were helping the family get the truth out about their daughter, we also tried to help them maintain some sense of normalcy in their lives.

http://www.gogertymarriott.com/showcase/amanda_knox/
 
dog.gone.cute said:
Just saw this on the MSN Homepage:

Knox will not return to Italy for re-trial :

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...l-not-return-to-italy-for-murder-retrial?lite



CNN covering story also :

Family: Amanda Knox won't return to Italy for new trial

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/24/world/europe/amanda-knox-italy-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


David Marriott said Knox had never agreed to attend, and there's "no requirement she be there." Still, there remains the possibility that Italy could request her extradition from the United States.


David Marriott is NOT a lawyer -- he is her PR rep :rolleyes:

So ... if you are "innocent" why do you need a PR rep ? :rolleyes:

:cow:
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I think that anyone that has followed the case knows that the PR Machine was used for propaganda purposes. Marriott's job was to paint Knox as a victim of the Italian justice system and to slander Italian professionals for doing their jobs when doing their jobs resulted in evidence against Knox.
 
If Knox's conviction is affirmed and the US does not honor treaties and extradite her, she should plan on a life within the borders of the US. The minute she steps into another country, she will be arrested - just like Joran van der Sloot.
 
otto said:
I think that anyone that has followed the case knows that the PR Machine was used for propaganda purposes. Marriott's job was to paint Knox as a victim of the Italian justice system and to slander Italian professionals for doing their jobs when doing their jobs resulted in evidence against Knox.
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BBM: Exactly ! IF you are "innocent" you do NOT need a PR "machine" IMO...


AND ... the latest news is that Knox's Italian defense attorneys -- Luciano Ghirga and Carlo Dalla Vedova -- went to Seattle to discuss the upcoming retrial of the Appeal with Knox.

Of course, this is normal for your attorney to discuss any upcoming legal proceedings with you ... but it is interesting that they flew from Perugia, Italy to Seattle ...

Hmmm ... IF Knox is innocent, why didn't she go to Italy and meet with her attorneys there ? Because she KNOWS what the outcome is going to be ...

The link about the Perugian attorneys' visit to Seattle is in Italian but was translated by the good people at True Justice for Meredith Kercher [not sure if that site can be linked].

:moo:
 
rashomon said:
From the round robin email written by Amanda Knox that she sent to family and friends on 4th Nov 2007:
http://adeathinperugia.wordpress.co...pressure-by-the-police-being-in-her-presence/
(bolding mine):
But in her book, AK says that the doors were closed (which would imply that Laura's door was closed, not open).
Now one could argue that Knox may have mixed things up in the course of the time that has elapsed; that she is not expected to have a photographic memory etc.
Counter argument:
In Knox's story, it is a crucial issue whether the doors to the rooms were open or closed.
Writing a book gives the writer ample time to thoroughly look up sources and (re)check past statements.
Therefore Knox could easily have looked up what she had written in that Nov 7/2007 email.
But she obviously did not do this. Why?
Maybe at the time when she wrote her book, she thought it would not be necessary anymore because she had been acquitted ...?
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I think she just mistakenly wrote 'open' instead of 'closed' in the email because she goes on to say that Filomena's door was also closed, which implies that the previous person referred to (Laura) also had their door closed.
 
otto said:
If Knox's conviction is affirmed and the US does not honor treaties and extradite her, she should plan on a life within the borders of the US. The minute she steps into another country, she will be arrested - just like Joran van der Sloot.
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would it be common or expected that the U.S. would not extradite her?
 
dog.gone.cute said:
BBM: Exactly ! IF you are "innocent" you do NOT need a PR "machine" IMO...


AND ... the latest news is that Knox's Italian defense attorneys -- Luciano Ghirga and Carlo Dalla Vedova -- went to Seattle to discuss the upcoming retrial of the Appeal with Knox.

Of course, this is normal for your attorney to discuss any upcoming legal proceedings with you ... but it is interesting that they flew from Perugia, Italy to Seattle ...

Hmmm ... IF Knox is innocent, why didn't she go to Italy and meet with her attorneys there ? Because she KNOWS what the outcome is going to be ...

The link about the Perugian attorneys' visit to Seattle is in Italian but was translated by the good people at True Justice for Meredith Kercher [not sure if that site can be linked].

:moo:
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I just read a few of the articles and it seems that Knox does not understand law that permits the prosecution to appeal a verdict. Knox was found guilty, she appealed, that appeal set her free, that decision was appealed and now we're back to the stage where her conviction stands and she/Raffaele will again appeal the conviction.

"Ghirga said that Knox was not trying to run away from anything but that she did not understand why a retrial was necessary."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/24/us-italy-knox-idUSBRE97N08W20130824

If Knox were to drive approximately 100 miles North from Seattle, she would be in a country where the prosecution can appeal a verdict. It surprises me that she finds the laws 100 miles away so difficult to understand.
 
LadyL said:
would it be common or expected that the U.S. would not extradite her?
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"Ms. Knox's own Italian lawyer has acknowledged that her appellate "acquittal" wouldn't constitute double jeopardy under Italian law since it wasn't a final judgment—it was subject to further appeal, which has now resulted in a reversal of the acquittal. This argument will probably carry considerable weight with U.S. authorities, likely yielding the conclusion that her extradition wouldn't violate the treaty. Still, a sympathetic U.S. State Department or judge might find that her appellate acquittal was final enough to preclude extradition on double-jeopardy grounds."

Wall Street Journal
 
dog.gone.cute said:
IF you are "innocent" you do NOT need a PR "machine" IMO...
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as has been stated before, elizabeth smart, jaycee dugard, and michelle knight, amanda berry and gina de jesus have all/are using the services of PR firms to assist with various situations (interviews, public announcements, etc)... are you suggesting these woman are guilty of something criminal?
 
redheadedgal said:
as has been stated before, elizabeth smart, jaycee dugard, and michelle knight, amanda berry and gina de jesus have all/are using the services of PR firms to assist with various situations (interviews, public announcements, etc)... are you suggesting these woman are guilty of something criminal?
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I fail to see the connection.

None of the women you mention were charged and convicted of murder, none of them spent time in jail for framing an innocent person and none of their families hired PR firms because they were arrested for criminal activities.
 
Thank god she is not heading over .. the poor girl, enough is enough.
 
Mrs G Norris said:
Thank god she is not heading over .. the poor girl, enough is enough.
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What do you mean by enough is enough? Knox spent three years in jail after being convicted of attempting to frame an innocent man. Her actions destroyed his livelihood and forever altered the course of his family's life. Should we feel sorry for her? She is the perpetrator of the crime, not the victim.

She has been convicted of murdering Meredith Kercher. Meredith is the victim. Knox was released after an appeal, but that appeal was annulled. Should she forego another shot at the appeal; accept the conviction? If enough is enough, then the only verdict left standing is: Guilty.

Surely she should have another chance to appeal that verdict. It's a mystery why she wouldn't want to attend court to appeal the murder conviction, but it's her right to not attend.
 
redheadedgal said:
as has been stated before, elizabeth smart, jaycee dugard, and michelle knight, amanda berry and gina de jesus have all/are using the services of PR firms to assist with various situations (interviews, public announcements, etc)... are you suggesting these woman are guilty of something criminal?
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All the names mentioned above are REAL VICTIMS ... and they had absolutely nothing to do with their situations ...

These ladies listed above were kidnapped, brutally raped and assaulted, and lost many years of their lives !

It is an insult to put Knox in the same category as these brave women !

Amanda Knox IS NOT a victim -- MEREDITH KERCHER is the VICTIM !

:moo:
 
otto said:
What do you mean by enough is enough? Knox spent three years in jail after being convicted of attempting to frame an innocent man. Her actions destroyed his livelihood and forever altered the course of his family's life. Should we feel sorry for her? She is the perpetrator of the crime, not the victim.

She has been convicted of murdering Meredith Kercher. Meredith is the victim. Knox was released after an appeal, but that appeal was annulled. Should she forego another shot at the appeal; accept the conviction? If enough is enough, then the only verdict left standing is: Guilty.

Surely she should have another chance to appeal that verdict. It's a mystery why she wouldn't want to attend court to appeal the murder conviction, but it's her right to not attend.
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Clearly we will have to agree to disagree as I believe Amanda is completely innocent and the prosecutor was a nut.
 
LadyL said:
would it be common or expected that the U.S. would not extradite her?
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:twocents: Not a lawyer and Not familiar with extradition ...

However, considering the most recent high profile extradition case in the news [Snowden], the U.S. should comply with other countries if the U.S. wants other countries to comply with them ...

WHEN Italy files the extradition for Knox to return to Italy, the U.S. will need to comply ... cannot have a "double standard" ...

All JMO ...
 
dog.gone.cute said:
BBM: Exactly ! IF you are "innocent" you do NOT need a PR "machine" IMO...

AND ... the latest news is that Knox's Italian defense attorneys -- Luciano Ghirga and Carlo Dalla Vedova -- went to Seattle to discuss the upcoming retrial of the Appeal with Knox.

Of course, this is normal for your attorney to discuss any upcoming legal proceedings with you ... but it is interesting that they flew from Perugia, Italy to Seattle ...

Hmmm ... IF Knox is innocent, why didn't she go to Italy and meet with her attorneys there ? Because she KNOWS what the outcome is going to be ...

The link about the Perugian attorneys' visit to Seattle is in Italian but was translated by the good people at True Justice for Meredith Kercher [not sure if that site can be linked].

:moo:
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I can't imagine that was the advice of her Italian lawyers to not show up at the trial. That doesn't look good at all if you pretend to be innocent. It is also very disrespectful towards the victim and her family. In Knox's own words, Meredith was her 'good friend'. She could just attend the trial and not be afraid of any immediate arrest. That will still take a year or two till the trials are finalized. So why does she not show up?

It will indeed be interesting to see what Sollecito does. His father has said he will be attending, and he himself seems to be hiding in the US. He even begged his supporters (or should I say Knox's supporters?) out of $20K or so. Not bad for beer money, not good enough for his expensive lawyers. We will see what the trials will bring. I personally hope that it will be fast and doesn't bring much publicity. Only the better for the Kercher family. Justice for Meredith Kercher is coming.
 
dog.gone.cute said:
All the names mentioned above are REAL VICTIMS ... and they had absolutely nothing to do with their situations ...

These ladies listed above were kidnapped, brutally raped and assaulted, and lost many years of their lives !

It is an insult to put Knox in the same category as these brave women !

Amanda Knox IS NOT a victim -- MEREDITH KERCHER is the VICTIM !

:moo:
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Thank you for separating the real victims from the convicted criminal.
 
Mrs G Norris said:
Clearly we will have to agree to disagree as I believe Amanda is completely innocent and the prosecutor was a nut.
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That's exactly what the PR team was hired to do: convince the US public that some crazy man from a backwards medieval town in Italy decided that it would be good fun to try to pin a murder charge on a sweet woman from Seattle.

Since two prosecutors were involved in the trial, are we to assume that only one was a "nut", or where they both nuts?
 
I have to agree with Mrs G. Norris and I also believe that Amanda Marie Knox is completely innocent.
 
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