Armchair psych profile and personal background

sillybilly said:

LRM had $$ from somewhere (how much or how little, we don't know). He was going somewhere (Paris>Berlin>???). Was he perhaps enroute to a location where there is someone who specializes in sex change surgery?

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Casablanca was the mecca for most European transgendered woman in the 50s and 60s, though I am unsure whether it still is.

I don't think you are silly, to me this was always going to be his 'trump card' that he mentioned a few times.

I think it's selfish too (JMHO please don't flame me guys! lol) because when LM talk about those paraphilias and fetishes, those things *turn him on*, it gives him pleasure, he looks forward to it, there is an anticipation, I doubt he thinks is degrating, because the whole point of the submissive is to be humiliated and punished, it makes them feel good. So to me it's a selfish behaviour because in the end it is all about him, about his needs. He is always the protagonist! This is one of the reasons that I believe he is a true narcissist (IMO).

Reading his previous posts online helped me to reach the conclusion that the letter sent to Romeo Salta about Manny abuse is just another big joke, I mean how can he say he was abused by any client if he wrote many times that he likes to do all those things in the list? I mean come on, Manny is a character from Basic Instinct and LM wrote 'he spit on my Versace shirt', I think that no one seriously abused who got your own life in danger will care about designer clothes...

pannekoek said:

I also think its selfish but thats my opinion. I think you might be projecting your own sexual norms/morals onto LM and extracting conclusions from that. Sexuality is much more complex than your life experience and thoughts about it are. There hasnt been much scientific research done about the sexuality of psychopaths but what has been done is clear, it differs grately from ours. So using our own experience and ways of giving meaning to it doesnt work.

Again about the selfish part, even if he isnt a psychopath. He is asking for people to do things to him that you would deem to find degrating. But its him who is asking for it. The thing I learned from having some pretty kinky BDSM friends... that its the sub who tells the dom what will/or can not be done in their play... so a lot of the power, contrary to what most people think lays with the sub. So in this case I think its about him... either to shock people by the post or what he wants to have done to him for his own satisfaction (how disgusting you might think those things are)...

My 2 cents...

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jellybeanz said:

Casablanca was the mecca for most European transgendered woman in the 50s and 60s, though I am unsure whether it still is.

I don't think you are silly, to me this was always going to be his 'trump card' that he mentioned a few times.

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His email to Adam West, stated in part:

"You know, the fun part of all this is watching millions of people get angry and frustrated because they cant catch me. Thats why I love this. I love the risk factor. Its so fun watching people work so hard gathering all the evidence, then not being able to name me or catch me," the person writes. "You see, I always win, I always hold the trump card, and I will continue to make more movies."

He concludes the email with: "Well, it was fun f[explicit] around with everyone, so have a merry christmas and a happy new years. I know I will. Getting away with all this, now thats genius. Signed, Yours Truly. (Or is it?)"

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from: http://newstro.com/article/canadian-killer-warned-british-tabloid-in-email-sent-from-holland.html

IMO, his "trump card" at that point was the movie 1L1IP, and whatever he had planned after that. Okay, so after you've made a movie of murdering and dismembering someone, and releasing it to the world, what else is there? Possibly, change your identity (i.e. Eric Newman > LRM didn't give him much positive reinforcement), totally reinvent yourself as a female, and continue to F with the world with your new persona (wanna bet it would be KH?).

Just thoughts ... wish we knew, and hopefully some day we will.

Donyale said:

maybe because when he was hurt by natural causes it was upsetting because he wasn't expecting and couldn't anticipate the pain, control and say stop like in a S&M bondage game. I've heard somewhere that the sexual slave always has the power because he is the one that can say stop to his master.

It's interesting that in several posts Magnotta claims to dream about being gang raped in prison or ask to be raped by a stranger but at the same time he wrote one long post whining that he was raped in a foreign country and had to go to the ER and his mother left him there alone. Do you guys remember those posts? It's so confusing to me because he asks to be raped and then when he is raped he complains... so it could be that when he lacks control, he freaks out. IDK...

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Possibly. Or...the wanting to be raped is just fantasy. It's quite common for child sexual abuse victims to have rape fantasies. In fantasies, one has control.

jellybeanz said:

Casablanca was the mecca for most European transgendered woman in the 50s and 60s, though I am unsure whether it still is.

I don't think you are silly, to me this was always going to be his 'trump card' that he mentioned a few times.

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At the start I wondered about money. Then I concluded , there has to be some validity to the escort stuff - LM asking so can I sit in your Mercedes and you take some pics.
At a fine eating est "take some pics of me" etc

Donyale said:

I think it's selfish too (JMHO please don't flame me guys! lol) because when LM talk about those paraphilias and fetishes, those things *turn him on*, it gives him pleasure, he looks forward to it, there is an anticipation, I doubt he thinks is degrating, because the whole point of the submissive is to be humiliated and punished, it makes them feel good. So to me it's a selfish behaviour because in the end it is all about him, about his needs. He is always the protagonist! This is one of the reasons that I believe he is a true narcissist (IMO).

Reading his previous posts online helped me to reach the conclusion that the letter sent to Romeo Salta about Manny abuse is just another big joke, I mean how can he say he was abused by any client if he wrote many times that he likes to do all those things in the list? I mean come on, Manny is a character from Basic Instinct and LM wrote 'he spit on my Versace shirt', I think that no one seriously abused who got your own life in danger will care about designer clothes...

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I believe he is a true narcissist (IMO). Me too, and one of the most classic , pure, DSM PD ever in history.

Reading back through the excerpt from the email to Adam West, I notice that he consistently uses capital "I", whereas in other online ramblings he uses "I" and "i" interchangeably.

In more recent years (and in light of extensive online communications with peeps who don't know me personally), I have started to do the same thing consciously ... because i don't wish to be perceived as arrogant through the use of too many capitals. However, not sure LRM is that deep consciously. So, i wonder about his mood in that particular correspondence ... does he subconsciously vacillate between feeling insignificant (the small "i") and then going into megalomania when he consistently uses the capital "I".

Another thought is that, like me, he made a conscious decision to use the small "i" online .. but in his case it was an attempt to make himself appear less intimidating so that unsuspecting peeps would think he was trustworthy and harmless.

I was online back in the BTK days, and a poster confided in me that their user name was carefully chosen and in all small letters to appear less imposing in the event the killer was online and might choose to make contact with the poster. (LOL, and it was NOT "sillybilly").

RE: Use of the innocents name

I think another possibility is how criminals sort of socially marry themselves to their victims in terms of reporting and the media. An exaggerated example of this is when Andrew Cunanan killed Versace. He would forever keep his name tossed about as Versace's killer. Additionally I feel it's a grotesque disrespect of the victim. Sadly all too often victims get remembered for how they were murdered and not for who they were.

RE: LM's suicide risk presently

I don't see LM as at high risk for suicide prior to his trial. His "LM Reality Show" has not yet aired and IMO he's rehearsing his parts and fantasizing about his headlines. He may feign an attempt or some other bizarre behavior to try to get his name out there in the meantime.

RE: LM's history of friends or lack there of

IMO LM associated himself with the more extreme fringes of society. Stripping, prostitution and *advertiser censored*. These are notorious for attracting persons with troubled pasts and substance abusers/addicts. Thus, "friends" or aquaintances in these circles would likely have a higher tolerance/threshold for odd/inappropriate behavior. In fact, observing the troubled behaviors in others very well could be used for them to justify the continuation of their own chaotic and destructive course. Hence, the lack of intervention by these people.

RE: Fetishes/Rape

This one is a bit more complex IMO and unclear as we truly don't know enough about his background and if his recounts about his abuses are in fact true. I do believe that his posts on his abuse have a different quality about them and give me pause in wondering if they are more sincere. Even so, I don't put it past him to exaggerate or lie about events as a form of retaliating towards his parents whom at some point discontinued all contact with him. If he were dishonest or exaggerating in the posts it slandered them and soiled their name, one of the few retaliatory things he could do at that point given the lack of contact. If all he described is accurate I see his posts seeking for a dominant person to enact rape/forced feces eating etc as recapitulation of past trauma but with one huge difference. He is in control in that he has defined what will be permitted to happen. Rape in this sort of situation is more of a role playing and even with a good "actor" in the dominant role it would still not be the same. I also believe these situations could very well go to the root of his narcissistic issues. Often the hidden cause of narcissism is shame/inadequacy....there was a part of LM that he felt loathesome about. This wasn't just about his childhood, it was about the prostitution, stripping and *advertiser censored*...all of which he disliked. Thus with every stripping or paying customer he added new layers of shame and disgust. This must have been an overwhelming piece to his psyche because it wasn't something that was just about the past, it was what he had to do to survive in the present and indefinitely. Now, LM's hospitalizations/ER visits after reported rapes are different to me, in that he was not in control and something went very wrong with the guy paying him. In these cases, the understandable fear for his life, lack of control, and unknowing of what would be done would certainly generate a different emotional response....this response could be exacerbated significantly if LM has historically similiar emotional experiences as a result of the abuse he reported. If the reports of his mother not assisting him in those situations are true, it would corroborate LM's reports of her allowing others to abuse him without proper intervention.

Donyale said:

I think it's selfish too (JMHO please don't flame me guys! lol) because when LM talk about those paraphilias and fetishes, those things *turn him on*, it gives him pleasure, he looks forward to it, there is an anticipation, I doubt he thinks is degrating, because the whole point of the submissive is to be humiliated and punished, it makes them feel good. So to me it's a selfish behaviour because in the end it is all about him, about his needs. He is always the protagonist! This is one of the reasons that I believe he is a true narcissist (IMO).

Reading his previous posts online helped me to reach the conclusion that the letter sent to Romeo Salta about Manny abuse is just another big joke, I mean how can he say he was abused by any client if he wrote many times that he likes to do all those things in the list? I mean come on, Manny is a character from Basic Instinct and LM wrote 'he spit on my Versace shirt', I think that no one seriously abused who got your own life in danger will care about designer clothes...

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What everyone has to remember (this is not geared at any particular person) is a lot of those online postings as well may be in some cases a full blown joke, (for attention and more shock and awe detail) and fantasy. There's no real evidence he ever actively participated in a lot of these extreme fetishes. I agree portions of the email to Salta was likely fabricated (how much we're not sure) ... and at the same time a lot of those msg board postings never came to fruition either. People shouldn't assume "oh he posted he liked to consume feces he's mentally ill" ... Who says he actually did a lot of the stuff? Highly unlikely. The mental stimulation in thinking about it, and the thrill of others thinking you like it, is main objective.

For those trying to guess wher LRM was headed after Berlin, I say Ruusia-- his trajectory shows him headed there and it makes sense. Then, if we truly want to entertain the sex change theory, he could have then headed to Korea where plastic surgery is quite cheap compared to the States and Europe.

WOW - goosebumps but interesting

"You know, the fun part of all this is watching millions of people get angry and frustrated because they cant catch me. Thats why I love this. I love the risk factor. Its so fun watching people work so hard gathering all the evidence, then not being able to name me or catch me," the person writes. "You see, I always win, I always hold the trump card, and I will continue to make more movies."

He concludes the email with: "Well, it was fun f[explicit] around with everyone, so have a merry christmas and a happy new years. I know I will. Getting away with all this, now thats genius. Signed, Yours Truly. (Or is it?)"

CARIIS said:

WOW - goosebumps but interesting

"You know, the fun part of all this is watching millions of people get angry and frustrated because they cant catch me. Thats why I love this. I love the risk factor. Its so fun watching people work so hard gathering all the evidence, then not being able to name me or catch me," the person writes. "You see, I always win, I always hold the trump card, and I will continue to make more movies."

He concludes the email with: "Well, it was fun f[explicit] around with everyone, so have a merry christmas and a happy new years. I know I will. Getting away with all this, now thats genius. Signed, Yours Truly. (Or is it?)"

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If you think that's interesting, will we ever see the full unedited email where he goes into more scary detail and threats to that sun reporter about what he wanted to do to him. I wonder if that reporter ever submitted that to LE as evidence where it may appear at the trial. I'd be interested in knowing the rest.

sillybilly said:

Reading back through the excerpt from the email to Adam West, I notice that he consistently uses capital "I", whereas in other online ramblings he uses "I" and "i" interchangeably.

In more recent years (and in light of extensive online communications with peeps who don't know me personally), I have started to do the same thing consciously ... because i don't wish to be perceived as arrogant through the use of too many capitals. However, not sure LRM is that deep consciously. So, i wonder about his mood in that particular correspondence ... does he subconsciously vacillate between feeling insignificant (the small "i") and then going into megalomania when he consistently uses the capital "I".

Another thought is that, like me, he made a conscious decision to use the small "i" online .. but in his case it was an attempt to make himself appear less intimidating so that unsuspecting peeps would think he was trustworthy and harmless.

I was online back in the BTK days, and a poster confided in me that their user name was carefully chosen and in all small letters to appear less imposing in the event the killer was online and might choose to make contact with the poster. (LOL, and it was NOT "sillybilly").

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(LOL, and it was NOT "sillybilly").


Is there something would you like to share -- we are here for you Billy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sillybilly said:

Reading back through the excerpt from the email to Adam West, I notice that he consistently uses capital "I", whereas in other online ramblings he uses "I" and "i" interchangeably.

In more recent years (and in light of extensive online communications with peeps who don't know me personally), I have started to do the same thing consciously ... because i don't wish to be perceived as arrogant through the use of too many capitals. However, not sure LRM is that deep consciously. So, i wonder about his mood in that particular correspondence ... does he subconsciously vacillate between feeling insignificant (the small "i") and then going into megalomania when he consistently uses the capital "I".

Another thought is that, like me, he made a conscious decision to use the small "i" online .. but in his case it was an attempt to make himself appear less intimidating so that unsuspecting peeps would think he was trustworthy and harmless.

I was online back in the BTK days, and a poster confided in me that their user name was carefully chosen and in all small letters to appear less imposing in the event the killer was online and might choose to make contact with the poster. (LOL, and it was NOT "sillybilly").

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Good theory, it may be that when he sent the letter to West he felt pretty safe in his anonymity so he felt "big". He used caps often to emphasize importance. It would be interesting for a professional to analyze his writing and dramatics and see how often he uses caps versus lowercase when telling about childhood abuse, which may indicate how "small" he felt and how much truth was involved.

Then again, he's a terrible typist and speller so it could just be him pounding at the keyboard willy nilly.

should we RUN fast! Very fast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mbshafeena said:

I do however reiterate that schizophrenics not on meds are VERY agitated and can not function and LM seemed to be able to premeditated by announcing this vid on line two weeks before the actual murder, dispose of body very methologically and purchase an air ticket and make his escape. If that is someone that is not in control of his faculties.....

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thank you for this comment! this is one of the things that makes me again very confused. It seems that some schizophrenics actually can function, premeditate, plan and be somewhat organized in their own 'madness' even without medication.
If you guys read about Rio school shooting episode,
Rio de Janeiro school shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the shooter was schizophrenic. He had a lousy childhood, his biological mother was schizophrenic and gave him up for adoption, so he was raised by a nice lady who was 50years old when adopted him. But he was bullied constantly at school mainly in the year 2001. He got obssessed by the 9/11 attacks, he was diagnosed schizophrenic just like his biological mother. Anyway, fast forward a couple of years, he was medicated and got a job, went to church, was somewhat functional and seemed normal. But his adoptive mother died and he was left alone without any family.
He became VERY depressed, this guy only had friends on the internet, his hobby was to be on the internet and also had flashbacks about the bullying he faced at school. That's when he got the idea of revenge, he was very intelligent and organized, he read everything he could of how to get guns and how to shoot and attack the school with military tactics, he planned carefully and was influenced by the kids from Columbine school shooting.

Aftermath: he killed 12 innocent kids and injured other 12 because in his mind they were the same ones that bullied him when he was at school and they deserved to pay for what they did to him in the past. He commit suicide but he left specific ways to be buried and he had some muslim beliefs something very rare here in Brazil, because it is a catholic country. That's why some people thought he had terrorist connections. But if you look back in the past he was bullied at school being called also 'bin laden', terrorist, psychopath because he was always very quiet and odd, he had a leg problem also and walked funny, used to talk all the time about the 9/11 attack, such things made him a perfect target for bullying.

Sorry for the long post, but my point is that in the press it says he stopped taking his medication for schizophrenia a long time before the shooting, but he was still able to plan the attack carefully and in a logical way. I think this is very interesting, it seems that there is some sort of order in their personal chaos, if a schizo believe in something they can take logical procedures when dealing with what they perceive as dangerous to them. They can find some logic in their actions. I mean like Vince Li, he atacked the kid at the bus because in his schizo mind he would save the world from an alien invasion, he thought he killed an alien. Of course it wasn't planned but maybe Magnotta planned everything so carefully because in his mind he was part of his own movie, like Catherine Tramell from Basic Instict or Hannibal. Maybe he had to follow a script, including promoting the killvid and running away to europe, that's why he said "you got me'. I don't think he is schizophrenic but I wouldn't be shocked if he had a prior diagnosis. In my mind he is just a narcissist and famewh0re, but I'm a bit emotional

CARIIS said:

WOW - goosebumps but interesting

"You know, the fun part of all this is watching millions of people get angry and frustrated because they cant catch me. Thats why I love this. I love the risk factor. Its so fun watching people work so hard gathering all the evidence, then not being able to name me or catch me," the person writes. "You see, I always win, I always hold the trump card, and I will continue to make more movies."

He concludes the email with: "Well, it was fun f[explicit] around with everyone, so have a merry christmas and a happy new years. I know I will. Getting away with all this, now thats genius. Signed, Yours Truly. (Or is it?)"

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Beside this, I searched cutelittlenemo1 and December and it truly seems that time was a trigger for him--he was posting all over the place. Maybe the convergence of being alone on the holidays and almost being 30 was too much for him.

There has been much speculation in here about LM's level of relationship with Lin Jun. I recall reading about how one of LM's neighbors shared that LM had invited him up to his apartment in the days around the murder. I fully believe this man likely saved his own life by declining. This report suggests to me that LM was looking for a victim and that it was less likely as personally of an attack on Lin Jun. Having said that, and not meaning to contradict myself, I can't help but feel maybe LM felt jealous of Lin Jun. Here was a guy who was becoming something, making straight A's, had a part-time job, real friends and even a pet...despite the fact that he was a foreigner! Lin Jun did not have it easy, but he knew who he was and was in pursuit of things that would create him a comfortable and fulfilling life. Additionally, Lin Jun was seemingly so much more pure of heart and significantly less tainted by life. Perhaps some of the wrath and depravity imparted to Lin Jun had NOTHING to do with him at all, but instead of what he represented.

have a higher tolerance/threshold for odd/inappropriate behavior.

Something occurred to me:
LM always lists himself as "bisexual", yet has he ever really had a sexual relationship (not counting alleged abuse) with a woman? Does he even find them sexually attractive? All his *advertiser censored* has been gay *advertiser censored*, gay escort, and his relationships have been either with men, or transgendered individuals.
So he isn't really "bisexual", then, is he? But he seems to have a problem with identifying himself as "just" gay.

Regarding his transgender girlfriends--maybe he's attracted to the woman part (nurturing, love), but for sex, there has to be male anatomy.
I don't believe he has gender confusion regarding himself--I doubt he wanted to be a woman, or there would be more photographic evidence. Cross-dressing, full drag. Even hormones, to have breasts. Most transgendered people practice their life as the opposite gender for years before they do any permanent changes. He didn't seem to do any of that.

His stories of incest may not be a total lie, in his mind. They may be a fantasy of his--(his mother, his step-mother, aunt, sister).
This would make him feel shameful. He knows it's wrong, and it makes him feel really crazy.
He may really love the women in his life, but was in turmoil (especially in his teens, when his sexual identity was forming). Combine that with sexual abuse as a child...
Maybe he even molested his sister?

All just thoughts. So many questions...so little facts.