Autopsy Results

SeriouslySearching · Sep 18, 2009

What I saw wasn't a tat. It was slightly darker than his skin and looked like a comma shape.

Kat · Sep 18, 2009

He had what I call a mouse in the outside corner of his (right eye I think, trying to remember from which angle I saw it). It was barely visible, and IIRC it can be seen when he was standing before the judge.

joypath · Sep 18, 2009

agent_scully said:
Are you sure you didn't see the blurry image of a tattoo? He has one on each arm left and right. It looks like they circle his arms.

Please consider this: anticubital area with a hematoma from the phlebotomy performed to retrieve his DNA.

joypath · Sep 18, 2009

PatientOne said:
I also saw what looked to be a very large bruise on his inner left arm, right above the elbow, when he appeared in court yesterday.

Please consider this: a hematoma created in the antecubital area from the phlebotomy performed at the crime laboratory.

Chili Fries · Sep 18, 2009

I think if his worst injuries were on his neck and back then Annie could have pulled his shirt over his head, which is something that commonly happens in fights

joypath · Sep 18, 2009

agent_scully said:
I've also not seen any obvious scratches in all of the recent photos of RC. If they were bad enough to draw blood, would they already be healed up?

Or are we thinking the blood was from AL's head? (as head wounds tend to bleed a bit more profusely)

Given that the incident of the death occurred 9/8/09 and the arrest occurred 9/17/09 and that most superficial cuts heal within 7-10 days, they are probably healed or well on their way to being healed. The level of healing would be significant enough in that a regular press photograph would not exhibit the pale striations.

Apt statement: head wounds bleed quite profusely as the region is well perfused.

joypath · Sep 18, 2009

t93 said:
From what I understand, they will cut up the area surrounding the body before they will touch the body. Preserving evidence is paramount-even over property remaining intact, debirlfan.

Absolutely correct and the evidence techs involved in this case are extremely well trained and more importantly, dedicated and competent!

Emma Peel · Sep 18, 2009

joypath said:
Please consider this: a hematoma created in the antecubital area from the phlebotomy performed at the crime laboratory.

Hi joypath!
Can I try a translation? (lol)

"A nice little bruise from his blood draw?"

Hey...do you think they were extra gentle?:innocent:

thx as usual, joypath!

Emma Peel · Sep 18, 2009

I keep having this awful thought that if this fight WAS about the mice, he may have used something to do with the mice equipment to choke her. Like put her head in some door of some kind and close it on her neck.

okay that's extra terrible, and I'm sorry, but I thought I'd throw it out there, so you can all say "no way" and then, I can sleep at night.

joypath · Sep 18, 2009

Emma Peel said:
Hi joypath!
Can I try a translation? (lol)

"A nice little bruise from his blood draw?"

Hey...do you think they were extra gentle?:innocent:

thx as usual, joypath!

LOL thought I'd be "formal" tonight! Insider info:NO WAY were they delicate, gentile and comforting.....infact, the opportunity to claim "oops the vein rolled, missed and the ever popular, "the vein collapsed" were DEFINITELY considered but....professionalism kicked in!

joypath · Sep 18, 2009

Emma Peel said:
I keep having this awful thought that if this fight WAS about the mice, he may have used something to do with the mice equipment to choke her. Like put her head in some door of some kind and close it on her neck.

okay that's extra terrible, and I'm sorry, but I thought I'd throw it out there, so you can all say "no way" and then, I can sleep at night.

Sleep tonight: mice cage NOT involved

ArkansasMom · Sep 18, 2009

Here's a link to a photo that may help those of you discussing the appearance of his inner arms.
http://www.yaledailynews.com/media/2009/09/17/clark-arraignment/

missyjane77 · Sep 18, 2009

Is there anything reliable out there saying she was dismembered?

Shlock Homes · Sep 18, 2009

Will the autopsy also include toxicology tests? In case she was given a sedative before killed? They didn't mention any defensive wounds or bruising on the body, did they?

'Ailina · Sep 18, 2009

missyjane77 said:
Is there anything reliable out there saying she was dismembered?

I haven't seen anything reliable or verified.

'Ailina · Sep 18, 2009

Shlock Homes said:
Will the autopsy also include toxicology tests? In case she was given a sedative before killed? They didn't mention any defensive wounds or bruising on the body, did they?

I think toxicology is routinely included. Don't know if it will be in the report, but I'm betting it will be. We may not hear the evidence until it's presented in court, from what I understand.

joypath · Sep 18, 2009

'Ailina said:
I think toxicology is routinely included. Don't know if it will be in the report, but I'm betting it will be. We may not hear the evidence until it's presented in court, from what I understand.

I can absolutely confirm that toxicology was ordered within the scope of the post

joypath · Sep 18, 2009

Shlock Homes said:
Will the autopsy also include toxicology tests? In case she was given a sedative before killed? They didn't mention any defensive wounds or bruising on the body, did they?

Toxicology is performed on all homicide death (and many many others ) seen at the CT ME's office. Screening for barbiturates and benzodiazepines are part of the routine testing (urine) and quantatiative levels are determined from other body fluids.

The gross anatomy evaluation has NOT been released at this time, will definitely be released during the trial BUT CT is NOT the same as other States (ie Fla) where documents are released to the general public.

'Ailina · Sep 18, 2009

joypath said:
Toxicology is performed on all homicide death (and many many others ) seen at the CT ME's office. Screening for barbiturates and benzodiazepines are part of the routine testing (urine) and quantatiative levels are determined from other body fluids.

The gross anatomy evaluation has NOT been released at this time, will definitely be released during the trial BUT CT is NOT the same as other States (ie Fla) where documents are released to the general public.

So if we won't have access to the documents, will we still have access to the information, via court proceedings?

Further, aside from the autopsy information presented in court, is there a possibility there will be some autopsy information not presented in court, so we may never know the full contents of the autopsy?

joypath · Sep 18, 2009

'Ailina said:
So if we won't have access to the documents, will we still have access to the information, via court proceedings?

Further, aside from the autopsy information presented in court, is there a possibility there will be some autopsy information not presented in court, so we may never know the full contents of the autopsy?

More than likely some of the information will be "leaked" (but not by me!) and some of the information will be available during the court case, UNLESS sealed by the court! or redacted, again by the court.

Anser to the second part: possibly.....for example, the actual weight of the organs.

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