Could you elaborate on this? What do you mean when you say "Nearly everyone should come out of this realizing they got taken for a ride by the media"
Nothing that is being "bandied about"....that certain of the kid's lawyers
might do, where regards attacking Phoebe, seems relevant to the charges against these kids,
to my knowledge anyway, beyond
MAYbe the "civil rights violation with bodily harm?????" if that even is how that charge is worded and
IF the bodily harm part refers to Phoebe's suicide....I think it doesn't, maybe it does....
....thats the puzzling thing to me anyway about what would be "gained" by some lawyers in (attempting a) trashing (of ) Phoebe's name...
I guess they sour the public (thus a jury???) on the victim??
Exactly HOW would this benefit their client???? I'm stumped.
This is definitely a conversation we need to have here because we all have to understand if trashing Phoebe could help the defense and if it would possibly be a "good strategy" we have to get ready cuz thats whats gonna go down.
I am no legal mind though but I see no benefit to trashing Phoebe,
to the extent that they can even succeed in doing that which is far from a "given".
Even if (
and I certainly don't know this to be the case...nowhere even close to that...just hypothesizing) but even if toxicology showed drugs in her system (
again TOTALLY I don't know any thing of this sort and it hasn't even been suggested to me) but saying that happened and they could cast doubt on circumstances that led to her suicide....establishing such would not impact upon the FACT that these monsters terrorized her....would it???
Thats what they are charged with...RIGHT...not murdering her....
at least not yet
Kris is still working on that
.....when I said I felt some of what they might raise "would have legs" you can take that to mean that its my belief that just by getting talk
stirred up about something they may succeed in distracting some people from the heinousness of what these kids did to Phoebe... IMO some would believe just from hearing something true or not....hard to disprove a negative.....and if innuendo about Pheebz having been a drug user (TRUE OR NOT) were to be placed into the public consciousness the "moral compasses" I mentioned would be right off support of The Phoebe Prince Support Train and likely also off the Getting Bullying Addressed Bandwagon which could only add up to more kids dying
I am trying not to even think about what the defense attorneys might resort to....just don't want people who have come to care about this girl to be surprised if they make an effort to trash Phoebe because if they do that I foresee a massive sh*tstorm.
It was the bullying PERIOD that led to her death...
if she is NOT tormented by these demons she does not die.
So, I mean...thats why I say I don't see how trashing her is gonna help them...how Phoebe's situation would have any relevance at all to these charges.
I feel like those that DO see potential gain in blaspheming The Prince name are thinking along the lines of
NO SUICIDE = NO CHARGES which may be a reasonable train of thought.....one cannot know....
but NOW that charges EXIST I am trying to tell these people that whatever (IF ANY AT ALL) character assassination can be "accomplished" DOESN'T FRIGGIN MATTER.
Irrelevant. Perhaps our legal mind can give us insight on this.....I'm prolly wrong
In case I am wrong and tarnishing Phoebe would be a potentially productive legal strategy....I'll paint some broad strokes momentarily of what they might "suggest" but NO WAY am I broaching "specifics" because
all I have I heard from others and the only way I'd go specific with a thing I heard is if I heard it from Pheebz and that of course ain't gonna be happening...
Again, most of the reason I am concerned about the soiling Phoebe approach,
as of now at least while I believe doing so would not help the accused, is that if some lawyers go the route of scandalizing Phoebe or
even just succeed in causing WONDER....doubt, they will surely cause some to not be as enthusiastic as they are
at this moment about getting laws in place to deal with bullying and another kid has to die bcuz friggin lawyers feel like they can "absolve" their client(s) by attempting to defame Phoebe Prince and her family when, as Paladine will be quick to point out, she is not here to defend herself and its entirely possible, heck PROBABLE that what they'll say is totally untrue or at the least well exaggerated. .
All I got is what I was told, by several parties and among these a family member of one of the accused (of bullying) or someone who said they were that.......who knows who is who they say they are....I didn't know Phoebe wish I had....I'd think if it was just a family member saying this stuff that maybe they themselves are trying their own propaganda campaign against Phoebe....but I have heard from others some of he same stuff....
The gist of it, as I have it anyway, is that they will paint her as a drug user with a history of depression, "mania" more specifically...manic depressive (I guess...that parts just a guess from me, all that was said is "history of depression") theres ruminations about a past suicide attempt though no one seems to know about such beyond a particular lawyer....abusive home life (not sure if that refers to here or before, in Ireland...gotta be Ireland...I would think anyway)....I'd imagine whatever they can possibly use, true or false, accurate or exaggerated....they will put out there.....those things there are the main things I heard that the lawyers may "use"....
By us "
coming out on the other end of this feeling as though the media had taken us for a ride" I meant that they have heard, just as I have, the talk about things that might get said by whomever to try and tarnish Phoebe and they knew (know) aLOT more specifics than damn near anyone else (certainly me)....I just feel that they should have put the potential of what they may even know to be true and that has the chance to become a consideration in this matter
out there rather than whatever they are dong by NOT REPORTING this....will equal alot of people getting "blindsided" by some stuff. Again....
if the lawyers take the low road....
If they DO I just wanna have people who have come to care about this girl prepared SHIELDS UP in case these scoundrels take even the first step which would likely be the drug (ab)use talk.....I suspect it would start with that....also I am worried about the fervor for addressing bullying being caused to "die down" because of some lawyers talkin' trash.
My view on it is, like Paladine has said and others too,
makes no difference what Phoebe's "deal" was the bullying caused her to take her life. Period end of story.
and I don't see how blaspheming Phoebe's name is gonna make a judge or jury say "OK, that makes you innocent of tormenting her" because they did it they are guilty all there is to talk about IMO is SENTENCING.
Paladine ask your legal expert if (s)he could see potential benefit to these defendants by the lawyers trashing Phoebe....
we should establish ONCE AND FOR ALL if they would be wise to take this path.
though, you know, sincerely....wisdom does not enter into the equation where Sharon's lawyer is concerned so if your legal eagle says "no there would be no wisdom in this" that'd likely equate to Sharon's attorney doing just that.
Prolly they'll be stunned at the stupidity of the question...might be an obvious thing to a legal person
hopefully it won't come to that....just sayin if it does don't let it catch you by surprise....
I think ya'll were pretty much already there anyway but best to be sure.
