The only people who should have been 100% cleared are those with solid alibi's of being out of town.
I believe the DA's have all been right where they should be, in that they haven't falsely arrested anyone. Commendable, really, what with all the lynch-mob mentality people in the tabloids and writing books.
Its simple: All family, friends, neighbors should've been cleared because their DNA and handwriting don't match.
Was there someone whose DNA or handwriting matched and thus they shouldn't have been cleared? How can you NOT clear someone who doesn't match DNA OR handwriting (JMK)? What would you have to hold them on?
If a suspect's DNA doesn't match then probably they didn't sexually assault or murder JBR. Likewise if a suspect's handwriting doesn't match they probably didn't write the note. The DA's office hasn't been using the DNA exclusively, but has also used the handwriting.
The lack of any local suspects is consistent with FFDI. I'm surprised nobody has figured that out yet.:waitasec:
What evidence do you have that the DNA is connected to the crime and to the offender? Also, Patsy Ramsey could not be excluded as the ransom note writer. In fact, several well respected QDEs have stated they believed she did write the note. Citations for these QDE opinions can be found easily here on Websleuths using the "Search" routine.
The evidence we have that the DNA is connected to the crime is the locations where the DNA was discovered: three (3) locations on two (2) separate articles of clothing JBR was known to be wearing at the time. These locations are consistent with the sexual assault part of the crime: the inside crotch of her underwear and each side of the longjohn waistband.
Maybe you should consider reading that again because its really signficant. They found MORE DNA on JBR that MATCHED the underwear DNA! Huge breakthru courtesy of ML as evidenced in the news media who has completely dropped reference to JR or PR as suspects.
Since the DNA is evidenced to be related to the crime and doesn't belong to PR, and since BPD failed (yes FAILED) to match PR to the ransom note YEARS AGO, its really, really safe to clear PR except by over-the-edge RDI.
There's a lot of mistaken people in here. I suggest using the search feature if you would like to reread some of their posts (LOL).
We've already discussed the ways the DNA could have innocently arrived on the panties and long johns. We've also discussed how the DNA does not exclude Ramsey involvement.
Sorry, but your statement that the "BPD failed" to match PR to the ransom note is false. Just use the SEARCH function here or on Google to find QDEs who disagree with your statement.
The evidence, circumstantial and direct, suggests familial involvement of some degree. I am also sure there is evidence that has not been made public.
It is pretty amazing to me how low a profile John Ramsey keeps now that Patsy is dead. I find that interesting.
I believe the DA's have all been right where they should be, in that they haven't falsely arrested anyone. Commendable, really, what with all the lynch-mob mentality people in the tabloids and writing books.
Its simple: All family, friends, neighbors should've been cleared because neither their DNA nor handwriting match and they have alibis.
Was there someone whose DNA matched, or handwriting matched, or had no alibi and thus they shouldn't have been cleared? How can you NOT clear someone who matches neither DNA nor handwriting? What would you have to hold them on?
If a suspect's DNA doesn't match then probably they didn't sexually assault or murder JBR. Likewise if a suspect's handwriting doesn't match they probably didn't write the note. The DA's office hasn't been using the DNA exclusively, but has also used the handwriting.
The lack of any local suspects is consistent with FFDI. I'm surprised nobody has figured that out yet.:waitasec:
I agree with slug here.If SFF how do we know they didn't have help from an insider?(who was cleared because his DNA and handwriting didn't match>lead's a dead end then)
Bill Ritter: This is an investigation that you could still pick up tomorrow and work and the less the public knows about intimate details more likely you are to apprehend the killer or killers.
DNA showing up on more than one article of clothing JBR was wearing at the time is evidence that could be there innocently. That the DNA is located where it is located, instead of on her feet bottom, is evidence that the DNA is instead linked to the crime. Your previous statement that there is no evidence the DNA is linked to the crime is false. Evidence that the DNA is linked to the crime has been provided. Whereas evidence that the DNA is not linked to the crime has not been provided.
Nope, sorry, location doesn't prove it is linked to the crime scene. Please re-read the numerous past rebuttals already posted to this same argument.
What?? Better slow down and read this:
No BPD-Hired Experts Identified Patsy as RN Author. "During the investigation, the Boulder Police Department and Boulder County District Attorney's Office consulted at least six handwriting experts. (SMF P 191; PSMF P 191.) All of these experts consulted the original Ransom Note and original handwriting exemplars from Mrs. Ramsey. (SMF P 205; PSMF P 205.) Four of these experts were hired by the police and two were hired by defendants. (SMF P 191; PSMF P 191.) None of the six consulted experts identified Mrs. Ramsey as the author of the Ransom Note. (SMF P 195; PSMF P 195.) [Emphasis added.]
OK I don't know what you call it but I call it BPD failure to match PR to the ransom note. Its over, no tap backs. The jello is jigglin and all that. PR didn't write the note.
This is wrong also.
Nope. BPD used the results provided by Federal QDEs and other experts. Data does not have to come from directly hired personnel paid by the BPD (or any other town for that matter).
There is no evidence that suggests familial involvement to any greater extent than someone who just lived there.
We've already discussed forensic statistics, which is the paradigm for profiling, which in turn suggests that your statement is not correct.
I find that irrelevant. Besides, I'm not sure running for office is low profile.
If I'm not mistaken, Patsy was alive when John Ramsey ran for office.
You find it irrelevant. I find it interesting.
Responses in red above. ther_beatingA_Dead
We've already discussed the ways the DNA could have innocently arrived on the panties and long johns. We've also discussed how the DNA does not exclude Ramsey involvement.
Sorry, but your statement that the "BPD failed" to match PR to the ransom note is false. Just use the SEARCH function here or on Google to find QDEs who disagree with your statement.
The evidence, circumstantial and direct, suggests familial involvement of some degree. I am also sure there is evidence that has not been made public.
It is pretty amazing to me how low a profile John Ramsey keeps now that Patsy is dead. I find that interesting.
DNA showing up on more than one article of clothing JBR was wearing at the time is evidence that could be there innocently. That the DNA is located where it is located, instead of on her feet bottom, is evidence that the DNA is instead linked to the crime. Your previous statement that there is no evidence the DNA is linked to the crime is false. Evidence that the DNA is linked to the crime has been provided. Whereas evidence that the DNA is not linked to the crime has not been provided.
No BPD-Hired Experts Identified Patsy as RN Author. "During the investigation, the Boulder Police Department and Boulder County District Attorney's Office consulted at least six handwriting experts. (SMF P 191; PSMF P 191.) All of these experts consulted the original Ransom Note and original handwriting exemplars from Mrs. Ramsey. (SMF P 205; PSMF P 205.) Four of these experts were hired by the police and two were hired by defendants. (SMF P 191; PSMF P 191.) None of the six consulted experts identified Mrs. Ramsey as the author of the Ransom Note. (SMF P 195; PSMF P 195.) [Emphasis added.]
OK I don't know what you call it but I call it BPD failure to match PR to the ransom note.
PR didn't write the note.
There is no evidence that suggests familial involvement to any greater extent than someone who just lived there.
I find that irrelevant. Besides, I'm not sure running for office is low profile.