What happened to Rebecca Zahau?

SunnieRN said:

Coastal, I see that you updated your post, so double thanks!! :great:

The reason I asked, was to see if there are any cameras that may have recorded the traffic the night that Rebecca died. Iam wondering about traffic between midnight and three am in particular.

Thanks again!!

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I found the following on a Caltrans FAQ; it sounds like their traffic cameras are like webcams, which stream live images but don't retain data. Perhaps CHP has a different system, but I really can't think of any event I've seen footage of, that wasn't shot by a TV helicopter...I'm still looking, SunnieRN, because now I'm curious. Maybe Homeland Security has something...

http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist2/cctv/faqs.htm#heading

What does Caltrans use the CCTV's for?

The primary uses for the cameras are:
(1) To provide motorists visual verification of weather and traffic conditions to make informed travel decisions.
(2) To provide Caltrans visual information to improve response to traffic and/or weather related incidences on the highways.

Why aren't the CCTV's updated more often or broadcast live video?

Most of the district CCTV sites are in very remote locations with only limited communications available. Broadcast live video requires a fairly high bandwidth communications infrastructure that is "always connected" to the site. This kind of infrastructure either is not available or is prohibitively expensive at most of our camera locations. CCTV still images could be updated more frequently than once an hour, but that would result in greater communication costs. As with any responsible organization, Caltrans' strives to provide the best service possible with its limited resources.

OT: Fascinating factoids for Wednesday:

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...However, many civil rights and privacy groups such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation and ACLU have expressed concern that by allowing continual increases in government surveillance of citizens that we will end up in a mass surveillance society, with extremely limited, or non-existent political and/or personal freedoms....

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...The use of surveillance cameras by governments and businesses has dramatically increased over the last 10 years. In the U.K., for example, there are about 4.2 million surveillance cameras&#8212;1 camera for every 14 people...

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...In the United States, the Department of Homeland Security gives billions of dollars per year in Homeland Security grants for local, state, and federal agencies to install modern video surveillance equipment...

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...As part of China's Golden Shield Project, several U.S. corporations such as IBM, General Electric, and Honeywell have been working closely with the Chinese government to install millions of surveillance cameras throughout China, along with advanced video analytics and facial recognition software, which will identify and track individuals everywhere they go. They will be connected to a centralized database and monitoring station, which will, upon completion of the project, contain a picture of the face of every person in China: over 1.3 billion people...

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I doubt there is any data such as you are hoping to find, SunnieRN. Yet.

I found this section interesting!!


AT&T developed a programming language called "Hancock" which is able to sift through enormous databases of phone call and Internet traffic records, such as the NSA call database and extract "communities of interest" -- groups of people who call each other regularly, or groups that regularly visit certain sites on the Internet. AT&T originally built the system to develop "marketing leads",[47] but the FBI has regularly requested such information from phone companies such as AT&T without a warrant,[47] and after using the data stores all information received in its own databases, regardless of whether or not the information was ever useful in an investigation.[48]
Some people believe that the use of social networking sites is a form of "participatory surveillance", where users of these sites are essentially performing surveillance on themselves, putting detailed personal information on public websites where it can be viewed by corporations and governments.[39] About 20% of employers have reported using social networking sites to collect personal data on prospective or current employees.[49]


I often think that if I was suspected in a crime, I would have a lot of 'unusual' searches on my computer, for things related to Websleuths. A bit scary when you read the apove passage!!

Thank you so much Coastal!! I can't thank you enough for all your help!!:great:

Aww, you're welcome! I love to get lost surfing...and I owe you at least a few more, for all your help with the medical details!

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LE said that JS /DS both had an alibi. The only way they would know this was to check hospital cameras, Ronald McDonald House room key documentation/camera(if exist), interview medical staff, cell phone pings (calls/text messages), personal computer use, check highway/bridge cameras. Even so, one can travel from San Diego to Coronado Island by boat.


Only JS knows what happened between him and RN that fatal night. And he is the only one who may know what the message means.....Not sure if LE can see text messages sent, if someone erased them. However, they should be able to track cell calls/pings. If there was a fight between a couple, there is often a flurry of calls, texts. I doubt that a call regarding MS taking turn for worse would cause RN to commit suicide. She already knew things were bad immediately following the fall. However, a series of nasty phone calls from JS, DS or both could be upsetting. And we all know that happened since the initial drug test for Benzos returned positive leading one to suspect RN had sedated MS, (possibly suffocated him), then tossed him over balcony. To this day, it sounds like DS still suspects RN of a crime, despite confirmation of repeat Benzo test returning negative.

Just read that article posted regarding RN sister interview. She states that RN said this was an accident and did not feel guilty. So, why suicide? ... She admits RN having problems with JS kids, and that she was thinking about taking a break from relationship. RN sister did not think they were close to getting engaged, so why was that leaked by JS's PR team? And if RN was thinking about leaving, then why suicide?

Lots of questions - still on the fence. I recall LE stating that it could be 5 different scenerios, but he never laid them out. Natural event obviously ruled out. Could be suicide vs anyone with last name starting with S vs hired hit vs stranger/aquaintance due to opportunity. Did RN break it off that night, and JS didn't want anyone else to have her -so this was about something else rather than MS? Or is this regarding anger over MS, thinking false positive Benzo test true? ... or did RN just call it quits. IF the report of loud music at 1 am is true, and it lasted for more than a couple minutes--- then AS is suspect, as any visitor would realize something wrong and check it out. What about dog man, gym members, anyone invited to cancelled party or neighbors who knew accident happened? In the end the note is very telling, and the only one who would know what that means the author and possibly JS....If not written by RN or someone with S name, then they did not know MS injury was fatal and RN not alone in mansion, as AS sleeping next to crime scene.Remember that famous case years ago, where surgeon blamed for killing wife. DNA later proved it was the hired window cleaner.......

Just side note, can the balcony door be closed without moving rope? I ask since photos appear to show door closed at one point during daytime hours, yet there is a rope photo taken at night with door open. Also, why did she (or whom ever involved) use candle, yet night photo of rope shows outdoor lights on..... did LE add light bulbs or outdoor lights vs auto turn on at night vs resident turns on outdoor light switch. Finally, anyone could be setting up crime scene in back bedroom while RN out to dinner.....

A freeze frame of the afternoon helicopter video clearly showed the rope hanging from the balcony in the exact same position as the evidence photo taken earlier in the day.

"The rope was hanging over the balcony from the moment (officers) arrived on scene until they seized it later in the evening as evidence," said Lt. Nesbit.

Some online observers have questioned the evidence photos themselves.

Three photos posted on the Sheriff's web site show the French doors of the mansion's balcony in three different positions.

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15466715/q...-hanging-death

Thanks, tvscum! That's a pretty darn good article!

We Websleuths know we've raised some valid questions, and it is very satisfying to see those questions addressed by Lt. Nesbit publicly. I'm not sure I'm ready to accept his easy answers just yet, but the fact that he has heard us, and responded, makes me hopeful that all the "lingering questions" we have about the deaths of Max and Rebecca will eventually be resolved.

Did you write that article, tvscum? If so, good job!

SunnieRN said:

Thank you very much Coastal!!

Does anyone know who the lady at the end of this video is? It was taken at JS PV, AZ home.


New details emerging in San Diego mansion death - YouTube

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Awesome find Sunnie! Who was that woman??? Looked an awful lot like DS to me, but who knows. Sure wasn't dressed like the maid and if that is what the help drives in AZ......I'm packin' now!

IWannaKnow said:

Awesome find Sunnie! Who was that woman??? Looked an awful lot like DS to me, but who knows. Sure wasn't dressed like the maid and if that is what the help drives in AZ......I'm packin' now!

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DS would have been with MS since he was still alive when that video was taken.

SophieRose said:

DS would have been with MS since he was still alive when that video was taken.

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Doesn't look like DS to me anyway. But certainly doesn't look like a maid.

jjenny said:

Doesn't look like DS to me anyway. But certainly doesn't look like a maid.

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Don't think it's a maid. Look at the car.

They have over the years used the video to monitor for jumpers, too.

SophieRose said:

DS would have been with MS since he was still alive when that video was taken.

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You are right, thanks for pointing that out. That was, in fact, the day after Rebecca was found dead. So, not DS and not a maid I think we agree, but clearly a person who has access to JS's house.

Maybe RN found out JS dating someone else, and that precipitated the suicide. He seems to have someone set up on the side, before he ends a relationship.

tvscum said:

I had seen a reference to Camp Diggity Dogs owner TG and a woman in the driveway in an earlier post, but can&#8217;t seem to find it now. Can somebody refresh my memory? Thanks!

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I can't recall where the posts are regarding this but here is a link to the video they were discussing:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4IOuN0pqCA&feature=related"]New details emerging in San Diego mansion death - YouTube[/ame]


ETA: Page 3 post #74 of this thread. SunnieRN first posted this video & started the discussion. Hope that helps!

tvscum said:

I had seen a reference to Camp Diggity Dogs owner TG and a woman in the driveway in an earlier post, but can’t seem to find it now. Can somebody refresh my memory? Thanks!

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I believe that reference was to a woman in the Coronado driveway, correct? I believe the video shows a woman at his AZ home. Anyone know for sure?

Watched the video again and reporter states the woman was at his Paradise Valley, AZ home. Then goes on to talk about the dog kennel person.

tvscum said:

I had seen a reference to Camp Diggity Dogs owner TG and a woman in the driveway in an earlier post, but can&#8217;t seem to find it now. Can somebody refresh my memory? Thanks!

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/19/ijvm.01.html
ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Mansion Mystery: 2 Deaths in 2 Days
Aired July 19, 2011 - 19:00:00 ET

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, you saw -- when you went up to the mansion, right...

GREENBERG: Right.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: ... to help Rebecca, you saw something, right?

GREENBERG: Right.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And OK. This -- did you find whatever you saw significant?

GREENBERG: What are you speaking of exactly?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You said you saw another woman?

GREENBERG: When I left. When I was leaving the house...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK.

GREENBERG: ... with the dog.

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SunnieRN said:

Coastal, I see that you updated your post, so double thanks!! :great:

The reason I asked, was to see if there are any cameras that may have recorded the traffic the night that Rebecca died. Iam wondering about traffic between midnight and three am in particular.

Thanks again!!

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So you don't believe LE thoroughly checked out the whereabouts of the S's?