OK OK - Sharon Marshall, 20, multiple aliases, OKC, 1990 - ID'd as Suzanne Sevakis - #2

Hey, Just trying to help out here. You guys are barking up the right tree in the wrong state. See link below. Very Important information !!


http://www.clocations.com/cviewmap.aspx?list=county&state=AL&county=Cherokee&lid=82060

Tuffy101 said:

Lets see! Five Civilized Tribes

I think you were saying I did not know about the reservations in Oklahoma..... ?

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There are many tribes in Oklahoma not just the Five Civilized Tribes. I live not far from the tribal headquarters of one of the largest Native American tribes in Oklahoma. The tribal headquarters is situated on a tract of land that includes various operational buildings used by the tribe for tribal government, education, and social programs. Citizens of the tribe live, for the most part, on land that is not designated as tribal land.

Oklahoma was once designated Indian Territory with land set aside for use by Native American tribes (reservations). Throughout the states history, much of that land has been taken by white settlers. Many of those tribes still have jurisdictional territory which allows the tribe to govern and provide services for tribal members located within certain boundaries - the traditional boundaries of what was once the 'reservation' for that particular tribe. However, the traditional 'reservation' does not exist in Oklahoma as it does in many other states, with the exception of the Osage reservation which still holds that designation. We have Choctaws living in Cherokee jurisdictional areas, Seminoles living in Creek jurisdictional areas, etc. Tribal members are interdispersed amongst the general population of the state, not segregated to a reservation. Tribes do hold land reserved for use - hospitals, casinos, housing, tribal headquarters, etc.

I am not trying to discredit you in any way despite your accusation.

Cubby said:

The Osage indian reservation is in Oklahoma.

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The Osage Nation retains the use of the name reservation in its official title. Also, the Osage Nation is in the northern part of Oklahoma and nowhere near the elementary school Tuffy characterized as being on the reservation.

I read that Floyd's sister lived in Tampa Florida does some one recall that can tell me where this was at ?or direct me to a thread ?

is fdf aware of the intense interest in finding out sharon marshall's true identity? does he know of matt's book - of our group here - of all those folks who would like to give her a name and true date of birth on her tombstone? it's hard to believe someone is that coldhearted not to care - if not franklin, then at least someone he told could reveal that information I keep thinking if he did get the little girl locally (to him) then perhaps her folks were dead and she was being cared for by someone who would have accepted a few bucks not to care for her- perhaps they were still getting a welfare check and or food stamps for her care while she was initially with franklin - it just seems that if she had someone who cared still alive at the time of her abduction then they would have checked with police - fbi - someone, some official place - at the time - most folks who lose a child don't ever give up the search unless they die....even then there are siblings who remember and continue....

timetravel said:

is fdf aware of the intense interest in finding out sharon marshall's true identity? does he know of matt's book - of our group here - of all those folks who would like to give her a name and true date of birth on her tombstone? it's hard to believe someone is that coldhearted not to care - if not franklin, then at least someone he told could reveal that information I keep thinking if he did get the little girl locally (to him) then perhaps her folks were dead and she was being cared for by someone who would have accepted a few bucks not to care for her- perhaps they were still getting a welfare check and or food stamps for her care while she was initially with franklin - it just seems that if she had someone who cared still alive at the time of her abduction then they would have checked with police - fbi - someone, some official place - at the time - most folks who lose a child don't ever give up the search unless they die....even then there are siblings who remember and continue....

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Matt interviewed Floyd for the book, so I think he at least knows of the book and the interest in Sharon's life. Per Matt's book, Floyd stated that he would never reveal Sharon's identity or Michael's whereabouts.

why wont floyd admit to it beacuse hes afraid to be slaped with more charges? can they still charge him with the kidnaping of sharon? he knows he will never get out of prision so why hide this info

smile22 said:

why wont floyd admit to it beacuse hes afraid to be slaped with more charges? can they still charge him with the kidnaping of sharon? he knows he will never get out of prision so why hide this info

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I have been following this case for sometime....not so long ago I went and took pics of where Floyd grew up, was contaplating (sp?) going to the local jail and interviewing Dial, hubby wouldn't allow it. Anyhow, I was banned from the site where all the research is/was being done after the original thread was shut down here, don't know the real reasons why. But what I gather, somehow the timing with my life being extremely busy lined up with some crazy stuff going on 'behind the scenes' I wasn't aware of and I next thing ya know I can't get in. I get an email saying I am not doing enough, haven't posted enough, acted excited then did nothing, I was told I shouldn't make promises to family members I couldn't keep, yada yada yada, oh and yes, I wasn't called it out right, but insinuated that I was a Mole for the Sharon Marshall thread for WS. I was told I said bad things about the main person back on WS, before I knew they were the same person that I met up with at the new site, I didn't even know they were the same person, LOL....anyhow..... I have stayed away from anything Sharon related for a few weeks because, well, maybe I do volunteer too much then can't get it done, but I am trying, my feelings got really hurt. I never got in the middle of drama before on any forums and it kinda blindsided me and threw me for a loop.

Movin' on.....

IMO, Floyd is holding onto Sharon's real identity because it is the very last thing he has any control over.

Relatives of Floyd live in a neighboring town, I was going to interview them....but the person who has done the amazing work on this case, has shut me out basically, not quite sure where to go and what to do at this point.

I honestly wish everyone, on all the Sharon Marshall forums/threads/sites/myspace pages, would just all ban together, share information, work together and find out who she is.

I was against this 'quest' initially, if you read way back....now, I really just want to know her name.

christine2448 said:

I have been following this case for sometime....not so long ago I went and took pics of where Floyd grew up, was contaplating (sp?) going to the local jail and interviewing Dial, hubby wouldn't allow it. Anyhow, I was banned from the site where all the research is/was being done after the original thread was shut down here, don't know the real reasons why. But what I gather, somehow the timing with my life being extremely busy lined up with some crazy stuff going on 'behind the scenes' I wasn't aware of and I next thing ya know I can't get in. I get an email saying I am not doing enough, haven't posted enough, acted excited then did nothing, I was told I shouldn't make promises to family members I couldn't keep, yada yada yada, oh and yes, I wasn't called it out right, but insinuated that I was a Mole for the Sharon Marshall thread for WS. I was told I said bad things about the main person back on WS, before I knew they were the same person that I met up with at the new site, I didn't even know they were the same person, LOL....anyhow..... I have stayed away from anything Sharon related for a few weeks because, well, maybe I do volunteer too much then can't get it done, but I am trying, my feelings got really hurt. I never got in the middle of drama before on any forums and it kinda blindsided me and threw me for a loop.

Movin' on.....

IMO, Floyd is holding onto Sharon's real identity because it is the very last thing he has any control over.

Relatives of Floyd live in a neighboring town, I was going to interview them....but the person who has done the amazing work on this case, has shut me out basically, not quite sure where to go and what to do at this point.

I honestly wish everyone, on all the Sharon Marshall forums/threads/sites/myspace pages, would just all ban together, share information, work together and find out who she is.

I was against this 'quest' initially, if you read way back....now, I really just want to know her name.

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I am sorry you got your feelings hurt it seems that there are a few that read the Sharon Marshall threads that will not post as they have had the same thing happen to them.
the remarks you are doing enough !all ya do is read the threads....!!!
I did tell her she had become paranoid as the remarks kept going e-mail after e-mail personally I don't need a mom or a boss....my mom retired to Florida and I married the boss !
I agree with you if every one would bond together ,keeping personality out of it and stop apologizing....
I went to the earliest threads on this site and read post by the e-mailer and it was happing two years ago....that made me feel better I was feeling very singled out.
I do not think that their is anyone that needs a drove Master,stepping away from the Marshall case for awhile doing something else brings a new prospective balancing my job and researching what ever information I think is important has given me new insights and information:twocents:
As for Mr.FDF Matt B. has said often FDF thinks he will beat the Murder Charge and not talking most likely about Sharon Marshall if no one has any proof FDF is not saying anything....

I wasn't around when the drama occured, and sadly the continuous discussion of the drama makes me ( and probably others ) lose interest in following this thread. It's sad all this "reaction" has come about based on someone elses disappointed reaction to others involved. Who honestly cares who has what information, or who finds what information?

Continue on, regardless of what a few think.

Myself, I'd love to concoct a way to pick at FDF's brain and find a motivator to get him to spill it.

christine2448 said:

IMO, Floyd is holding onto Sharon's real identity because it is the very last thing he has any control over.

I honestly wish everyone, on all the Sharon Marshall forums/threads/sites/myspace pages, would just all ban together, share information, work together and find out who she is.

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Well said!

christine2448 said:

I have been following this case for sometime....not so long ago I went and took pics of where Floyd grew up, was contaplating (sp?) going to the local jail and interviewing Dial, hubby wouldn't allow it. Anyhow, I was banned from the site where all the research is/was being done after the original thread was shut down here, don't know the real reasons why. But what I gather, somehow the timing with my life being extremely busy lined up with some crazy stuff going on 'behind the scenes' I wasn't aware of and I next thing ya know I can't get in. I get an email saying I am not doing enough, haven't posted enough, acted excited then did nothing, I was told I shouldn't make promises to family members I couldn't keep, yada yada yada, oh and yes, I wasn't called it out right, but insinuated that I was a Mole for the Sharon Marshall thread for WS. I was told I said bad things about the main person back on WS, before I knew they were the same person that I met up with at the new site, I didn't even know they were the same person, LOL....anyhow..... I have stayed away from anything Sharon related for a few weeks because, well, maybe I do volunteer too much then can't get it done, but I am trying, my feelings got really hurt. I never got in the middle of drama before on any forums and it kinda blindsided me and threw me for a loop.

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My oh my, who would've thought that casually discussing an unidentified person's mystery would escalate to accusations of espionage and threaten full-blown interforum warfare?

Cubby said:

I wasn't around when the drama occured, and sadly the continuous discussion of the drama makes me ( and probably others ) lose interest in following this thread. It's sad all this "reaction" has come about based on someone elses disappointed reaction to others involved. Who honestly cares who has what information, or who finds what information?

Continue on, regardless of what a few think.

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Very well said! Too bad some people get hung up on things like that...we can't let our egos get in the way when this is not about us, it's about Sharon. I, too, wish that everyone that cared about Sharon could just band together and do whatever we can to find her identity. All this "drama" makes me feel like I'm back in high school, instead of a discussion forum for intelligent adults.

Oh yeah...Tuffy, you had asked about Floyd having a sister in Tampa? I looked around and couldn't find anything about that. His sister Dorothy lived in South Carolina, at least at one point. He also had a sister Tommye that lived in Colorado. Oh, Dorothy's husband was in the military (just saw that in the book) so maybe they moved around. Anyone else know about this?

I wasn't around when the drama occured, and sadly the continuous discussion of the drama makes me ( and probably others ) lose interest in following this thread.

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Hiya Cubby....I had just came in on the tail end of the first drama....and was not referring to that, I was referring to something more recent....I totally agree and understand talking about this stuff turns people off and I won't ever bring up this stuff again.

Continue on, regardless of what a few think.

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It is not that simple. This is not a game, (not saying you think so, trying to make a point)...all of the people involved, FDF, his family, friends, etc, are not characters in a good mystery, they are human beings (well, FDF, not so sure), anyhow....

this is an investigation, and in a PROPER investigation you have a lead investigator then people under that person who all work together to solve a case. Imagine a police dept, and there are 3 rooms, in each room is 7 different investigators, all working on finding the identity of a young girl....they are all working it out in their own ways, following leads...they discover there is a witness to something, room 1 finds this person and goes to interview them, a few hours later this witness has a knock on the door, another investigator, wanting to interview them, another hour and another investigator shows up....get what I'm saying??? We can't be ALL be running around like idiots calling people, writing people, interviewing people, trying to get her story on the news, makes sense? Maybe am I wrong, I don't know.

Back to the case, which I would enjoy discussing, (I don't believe I am willing to physically participate in this investigation any longer, but I'm all for discussing and watching you all do yer thing )

Cubby said:

Myself, I'd love to concoct a way to pick at FDF's brain and find a motivator to get him to spill it.

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Previously, I had seriously considered getting a PO box as our other 'friend' did and her and I had discussed me doing this, coming up with another identity to try and pick his brain. He is talking, just not what we want to hear....he knows what that particular writer is after, I believe someone should come in from another angle, maybe more than one? :twocents:

Gina_M said:

Oh yeah...Tuffy, you had asked about Floyd having a sister in Tampa? I looked around and couldn't find anything about that. His sister Dorothy lived in South Carolina, at least at one point. He also had a sister Tommye that lived in Colorado. Oh, Dorothy's husband was in the military (just saw that in the book) so maybe they moved around. Anyone else know about this?

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I am not positive, but I believe there is a sister here in GA, that was the person I was asked to go see, or maybe it was his Aunt. I will have to see if I can find my notes from back then, all of my stuff is at home, I'm at work.

christine2448 said:

this is an investigation, and in a PROPER investigation you have a lead investigator then people under that person who all work together to solve a case. Imagine a police dept, and there are 3 rooms, in each room is 7 different investigators, all working on finding the identity of a young girl....they are all working it out in their own ways, following leads...they discover there is a witness to something, room 1 finds this person and goes to interview them, a few hours later this witness has a knock on the door, another investigator, wanting to interview them, another hour and another investigator shows up....get what I'm saying??? We can't be ALL be running around like idiots calling people, writing people, interviewing people, trying to get her story on the news, makes sense? Maybe am I wrong, I don't know.

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That's a great point, Christine. In most of the cases I've read up on here, there is sort of a "lead investigator" who oversees the other WSers, directs the investigation, acts as the contact person for LE, sort of a managerial position (Dr. Doogie on the Anna Waters thread comes to mind ) It's often a family member, or friend of the family, of the person in question. But since Sharon has no family, it's a little different I guess. We just have to try to stick together and get organized. It's too bad we can't all stick together on one forum, but I guess we'll do the best we can

Gina_M said:

That's a great point, Christine. In most of the cases I've read up on here, there is sort of a "lead investigator" who oversees the other WSers, directs the investigation, acts as the contact person for LE, sort of a managerial position (Dr. Doogie on the Anna Waters thread comes to mind ) It's often a family member, or friend of the family, of the person in question. But since Sharon has no family, it's a little different I guess. We just have to try to stick together and get organized. It's too bad we can't all stick together on one forum, but I guess we'll do the best we can

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Hiya Gina! Hugs! Yes, Dr Doogie and AW thread was exactly what I was thinking in my head while making that statement.

christine2448 said:

Hiya Gina! Hugs! Yes, Dr Doogie and AW thread was exactly what I was thinking in my head while making that statement.

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Hi Christine! :blowkiss: GMTA I guess! (Great Minds Think Alike)

Okay, here's a new theory that just popped into my head. We've questioned whether someone is out there looking for Sharon, whether anyone ever reported her missing. There's been speculation that she was somehow "orphaned" or that Floyd took her from someone "on the fringes" of society (a prostitute estranged from her family, for example). Recently there was discussion of Indian Reservations. Great idea because even with today's modern technology, they are still fairly isolated from "our world" - but Sharon looks Caucasian to me. I may not have read all of the archives yet but has anyone ever discussed a theory that Sharon might have been from an Amish community? Or something similar like Mennonite? I've been reading up on it a bit lately (not related to Sharon's case, just my own curiosity) and the Amish generally do not even press charges when crimes are committed against them. (Just Google "Amish" and "Crimes") Could it be possible that an Amish child would disappear, and the family would not file a missing persons report? They believe in letting God take care of everything and they rarely deal with the criminal justice system. Also, since they generally don't use modern technology like TV, internet, etc. it's unlikely they would even have seen Sharon's info in the media.

Just a thought. Another is that she was born into a cult or a cultish place like Synanon.

christine2448 said:

Hiya Cubby....I had just came in on the tail end of the first drama....and was not referring to that, I was referring to something more recent....I totally agree and understand talking about this stuff turns people off and I won't ever bring up this stuff again.



It is not that simple. This is not a game, (not saying you think so, trying to make a point)...all of the people involved, FDF, his family, friends, etc, are not characters in a good mystery, they are human beings (well, FDF, not so sure), anyhow....

this is an investigation, and in a PROPER investigation you have a lead investigator then people under that person who all work together to solve a case. Imagine a police dept, and there are 3 rooms, in each room is 7 different investigators, all working on finding the identity of a young girl....they are all working it out in their own ways, following leads...they discover there is a witness to something, room 1 finds this person and goes to interview them, a few hours later this witness has a knock on the door, another investigator, wanting to interview them, another hour and another investigator shows up....get what I'm saying??? We can't be ALL be running around like idiots calling people, writing people, interviewing people, trying to get her story on the news, makes sense? Maybe am I wrong, I don't know.

Back to the case, which I would enjoy discussing, (I don't believe I am willing to physically participate in this investigation any longer, but I'm all for discussing and watching you all do yer thing )



Previously, I had seriously considered getting a PO box as our other 'friend' did and her and I had discussed me doing this, coming up with another identity to try and pick his brain. He is talking, just not what we want to hear....he knows what that particular writer is after, I believe someone should come in from another angle, maybe more than one? :twocents:

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I agree. I guess what I was getting at is this is a sensitive case/issue and peoples feelings were hurt. Right, wrong or indifferent. Perhaps a truce can be made and leave "all that" as water under the bridge. Stealing someone else's words here, it was said about the Alec Baldwin issue you have to love your kids more than you hate the ex. I think everyone can agree the need to get this solved is more important than whatever misunderstandings and bad feelings occured in the past. Agree to disagree, and agree that some personality's may rub each other the wrong way but, in the end everyone has the same ultimate goal.

I don't know the people involved, but perhaps someone here who does, can reach out to make those amends and everyone move forward.

Heres to everyone getting along and doing so........