George Green
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I think many decisions that Corrie made that night and morning were based around the fact that he had little money the week before payday, and wanted to avoid paying for things.
We know that he wasn’t planning on going out, but the temptation of 5 of his colleagues going out must have been too much.
With “a bit of confusion” his colleagues left without him. This may be genuine confusion, or Corrie knew that he couldn’t afford to buy a round of 6 drinks, and purposefully made his own way there, for free, in his own car.
I think he had some kind of drink on hand at home that he grabbed for the purpose of binge drinking before heading to pubs, so that he was drunk but didn’t have to pay for it.
A binge of something like 10 units in an hour or so would be sufficient for most people.
10 units is a third of a bottle of vodka, a 4 pack of strong lager, or a bottle of wine. He could have been given a bottle of wine for his birthday that was sitting at his home, and he just grabbed it.
Another decision made to save money was parking on Robert Boby Way. This was likely to be free, as long as he got back to the car by 9am. The Cattle Market car park opposite the cinema is the obvious choice for parking. It would have been open with spaces, but would have cost money. He could have paid up until noon or something in that car park, which would have kept his options open for the night/morning.
In any case, we know he spends 46 minutes on the phone in the car drinking.
He leaves his car at around 23:05, to go to SoBar and then Weatherspoons. My guess is that he didn’t need to drink or otherwise spend money in either of these places, as he would have been pretty drunk already.
At 00:15 he enters Flex nightclub, but is asked to leave at 01:10.
Everything up until here was probably a happy, good night out, I don’t think he was expecting for his night to be over only two hours after leaving his car.
He may be feeling a bit low, even if he is not showing it, having 8 hours to kill before he would be safe to drive his car back. Alcohol leaves the body at one unit per hour.
Perhaps he was hoping to stay in Flex until 3am, maybe hook-up afterwards, get a McDonalds breakfast, then drive back.
With all this time to kill, it is puzzling why he bought a huge amount of food from the fast food shop, and leaves the shop.
It is estimated he entered around 01:20 and left around 01:30.
If he had time to kill, and knew the manager and staff in the shop, and being a social man, the constant flow of customers would have been good for him.
He could have ordered some small amount of food, eaten it, then ordered more, etc. for several hours, eating, chatting, killing time.
I think that the alcohol binge was probably catching up with him, and he may have started to feel sick. He wouldn’t want to be sick in the shop, and tried to find a more private place to eat, just in case.
There are several benches around that road and area in general, but he ignores those too.
For whatever reason, he wants to be alone at this point and chooses a shop doorway.
The last CCTV sighting of Corrie is at 03:24 when he enters the horseshoe bin area is almost certainly for the purpose of having a wee.
We now know that Corrie could have access to a wider area without being seen by CCTV, which extends to another horse-shoe like bin area/loading bay across the road at Short Brackland.
It is likely that there are parked cars in both of these bin areas.
Corrie may strike up a conversation with someone returning to their car in either of these two areas. This is likely to be a sober person, and likely to be someone who works in the area, knowing they can park there during their working hours (finishing between 3 and 4am) without issue.
At this point, Corrie is probably still fairly drunk, but cold and tired, and would probably not be enticed by more food or drink.
He may be enticed by sexual activity, a warm place to sleep for a while, or even after eating a lot of food - somewhere to have a poo.
Enticed by something, Corrie may get in a vehicle with someone of this profile, who is probably heading home to what we can assume is somewhere within 5 km of the Barton Mills 5 ways roundabout near Mildenhall.
Why Corrie suddenly decides to take up the offer of a lift, after apparently declining lifts or telling people he would walk, is a bit of a mystery. Perhaps his immediate needs took priority, and he thought he would have a way to get back to Bury by 9am.
We think that Corrie’s phone enters the range of the phone mast on the 5 ways roundabout at 04:50 and we know that the phone remains in this area unused until 8am, at which point it was either switched off, lost battery, or was otherwise damaged beyond function.
If someone stole the phone from him in BSE, or if something bad happened to him in BSE, the phone would probably have been switched off then, before it had a chance to communicate with the mast at Barton Mills.
Considering no witness has come forward (to our knowledge) admitting to give Corrie a lift, we can assume that the driver is likely to be involved in something bad happening to Corrie, and that Corrie remained with his phone while it travelled to Barton Mills.
I think it unlikely that the phone could have been pinging phone masts from within the bin lorry. From experience, it is very difficult to get signal in steel cabins.
This is easily investigated by police if they put a phone in that bin for collection and then check the phone records of it as the bin lorry traces the same route that it did that morning.
Likewise, running a test by having phones in cars going different routes from the HS/SB to 5 ways roundabout, and seeing which phone records best match the pattern that Corrie’s phone gave, would make a lot of sense to try.
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Timeline
[video=youtube;dfE5PIJBnr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfE5PIJBnr0[/video]
CCTV footage
Possible CCTV blackspots
We know that he wasn’t planning on going out, but the temptation of 5 of his colleagues going out must have been too much.
With “a bit of confusion” his colleagues left without him. This may be genuine confusion, or Corrie knew that he couldn’t afford to buy a round of 6 drinks, and purposefully made his own way there, for free, in his own car.
I think he had some kind of drink on hand at home that he grabbed for the purpose of binge drinking before heading to pubs, so that he was drunk but didn’t have to pay for it.
A binge of something like 10 units in an hour or so would be sufficient for most people.
10 units is a third of a bottle of vodka, a 4 pack of strong lager, or a bottle of wine. He could have been given a bottle of wine for his birthday that was sitting at his home, and he just grabbed it.
Another decision made to save money was parking on Robert Boby Way. This was likely to be free, as long as he got back to the car by 9am. The Cattle Market car park opposite the cinema is the obvious choice for parking. It would have been open with spaces, but would have cost money. He could have paid up until noon or something in that car park, which would have kept his options open for the night/morning.
In any case, we know he spends 46 minutes on the phone in the car drinking.
He leaves his car at around 23:05, to go to SoBar and then Weatherspoons. My guess is that he didn’t need to drink or otherwise spend money in either of these places, as he would have been pretty drunk already.
At 00:15 he enters Flex nightclub, but is asked to leave at 01:10.
Everything up until here was probably a happy, good night out, I don’t think he was expecting for his night to be over only two hours after leaving his car.
He may be feeling a bit low, even if he is not showing it, having 8 hours to kill before he would be safe to drive his car back. Alcohol leaves the body at one unit per hour.
Perhaps he was hoping to stay in Flex until 3am, maybe hook-up afterwards, get a McDonalds breakfast, then drive back.
With all this time to kill, it is puzzling why he bought a huge amount of food from the fast food shop, and leaves the shop.
It is estimated he entered around 01:20 and left around 01:30.
If he had time to kill, and knew the manager and staff in the shop, and being a social man, the constant flow of customers would have been good for him.
He could have ordered some small amount of food, eaten it, then ordered more, etc. for several hours, eating, chatting, killing time.
I think that the alcohol binge was probably catching up with him, and he may have started to feel sick. He wouldn’t want to be sick in the shop, and tried to find a more private place to eat, just in case.
There are several benches around that road and area in general, but he ignores those too.
For whatever reason, he wants to be alone at this point and chooses a shop doorway.
The last CCTV sighting of Corrie is at 03:24 when he enters the horseshoe bin area is almost certainly for the purpose of having a wee.
We now know that Corrie could have access to a wider area without being seen by CCTV, which extends to another horse-shoe like bin area/loading bay across the road at Short Brackland.
It is likely that there are parked cars in both of these bin areas.
Corrie may strike up a conversation with someone returning to their car in either of these two areas. This is likely to be a sober person, and likely to be someone who works in the area, knowing they can park there during their working hours (finishing between 3 and 4am) without issue.
At this point, Corrie is probably still fairly drunk, but cold and tired, and would probably not be enticed by more food or drink.
He may be enticed by sexual activity, a warm place to sleep for a while, or even after eating a lot of food - somewhere to have a poo.
Enticed by something, Corrie may get in a vehicle with someone of this profile, who is probably heading home to what we can assume is somewhere within 5 km of the Barton Mills 5 ways roundabout near Mildenhall.
Why Corrie suddenly decides to take up the offer of a lift, after apparently declining lifts or telling people he would walk, is a bit of a mystery. Perhaps his immediate needs took priority, and he thought he would have a way to get back to Bury by 9am.
We think that Corrie’s phone enters the range of the phone mast on the 5 ways roundabout at 04:50 and we know that the phone remains in this area unused until 8am, at which point it was either switched off, lost battery, or was otherwise damaged beyond function.
If someone stole the phone from him in BSE, or if something bad happened to him in BSE, the phone would probably have been switched off then, before it had a chance to communicate with the mast at Barton Mills.
Considering no witness has come forward (to our knowledge) admitting to give Corrie a lift, we can assume that the driver is likely to be involved in something bad happening to Corrie, and that Corrie remained with his phone while it travelled to Barton Mills.
I think it unlikely that the phone could have been pinging phone masts from within the bin lorry. From experience, it is very difficult to get signal in steel cabins.
This is easily investigated by police if they put a phone in that bin for collection and then check the phone records of it as the bin lorry traces the same route that it did that morning.
Likewise, running a test by having phones in cars going different routes from the HS/SB to 5 ways roundabout, and seeing which phone records best match the pattern that Corrie’s phone gave, would make a lot of sense to try.
Sources
Timeline
[video=youtube;dfE5PIJBnr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfE5PIJBnr0[/video]
CCTV footage
Possible CCTV blackspots
