Dead Folks and Decomp *WARNING: GRAPHIC PHOTOS IN OPENING POST*#2

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I hope LE will NEVER have any reason to search my pc! :eek:
 
Tulessa said:
I hope LE will NEVER have any reason to search my pc! :eek:
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I think that quote stands for all of us. I've got your alibi, hahaha! OMG, what if one of us was in a very "bad" situation????????????:croc:
 
BeanE said:
Texas State has a Forensic Anthropology department that focuses on decomposition. I took some terms from it, googled with them, and came up with these. If nothing else, we can pick up some search terms to use for more research papers on the net.

Taphonomy of Child-sized Remains in Shallow Grave and Surface Deposit Scenarios

http://ecommons.txstate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1011&context=anthroptad


An Analysis of Decomposition Rates on Outdoor Surface Variations in Central Texas

http://ecommons.txstate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1020&context=anthroptad


A STUDY ON THE RATE OF DECOMPOSITION OF CARRION IN CLOSED CONTAINERS PLACED IN A SHADE AREA OUTDOORS IN CENTRAL TEXAS

http://ecommons.txstate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1004&context=anthroptad&unstamped=1


And just for some extra fun:

Vegetation Colonization of Experimental Grave Sites in Central Texas

http://ecommons.txstate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1018&context=anthroptad


The Body Farm website:

http://web.utk.edu/~fac/facilities.shtml


Texas State Forensic Anthopology website:

http://www.txstate.edu/anthropology/facts/
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I love you BeanE! You have an amazing talent for finding information. (Got your back too for that alibi when the Fed's grab our computers.)
 
21merc7 said:
I think that quote stands for all of us. I've got your alibi, hahaha! OMG, what if one of us was in a very "bad" situation????????????:croc:
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I would be yelling bloody murder...........no pun intended! :woohoo:
 
BeanE's websites have interesting info on rate of decomp given different areas, different manners (enclosed/not enclosed) and much more. For some reason my browser will not let me copy bits of them. Very, very informative. Extremely interesting. Especially wooded areas, enclosed containers for this case. (Just click on BeanE's links, all there, all published studies.)

Are there any on children versus adult cadavers? (Have there been studies yet? Has to be..)

I have not read that yet.
 
21merc7 said:
BeanE's websites have interesting info on rate of decomp given different areas, different manners (enclosed/not enclosed) and much more. For some reason my browser will not let me copy bits of them. Very, very informative. Extremely interesting. Especially wooded areas, enclosed containers for this case. (Just click on BeanE's links, all there, all published studies.)

Are there any on children versus adult cadavers? (Have there been studies yet? Has to be..)

I have not read that yet.
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Am there now.............
 
BeanE said:
Texas State has a Forensic Anthropology department that focuses on decomposition. I took some terms from it, googled with them, and came up with these. If nothing else, we can pick up some search terms to use for more research papers on the net.

Taphonomy of Child-sized Remains in Shallow Grave and Surface Deposit Scenarios

http://ecommons.txstate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1011&context=anthroptad


An Analysis of Decomposition Rates on Outdoor Surface Variations in Central Texas

http://ecommons.txstate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1020&context=anthroptad


A STUDY ON THE RATE OF DECOMPOSITION OF CARRION IN CLOSED CONTAINERS PLACED IN A SHADE AREA OUTDOORS IN CENTRAL TEXAS

http://ecommons.txstate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1004&context=anthroptad&unstamped=1


And just for some extra fun:

Vegetation Colonization of Experimental Grave Sites in Central Texas

http://ecommons.txstate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1018&context=anthroptad


The Body Farm website:

http://web.utk.edu/~fac/facilities.shtml


Texas State Forensic Anthopology website:

http://www.txstate.edu/anthropology/facts/
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Still reading and I suggest you guys read BeanE's link.
 
BeanE said:
Shouldn't we be wrapping presents or baking gingerbread cookies or something? God. I'm sitting here with all these sweet, wonderful Christmas songs playing and reading this stuff.
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I have to work around the clock until Sunday. I am cramming all the information my lil ole brain can handle!:crazy:
 
BeanE said:
Shouldn't we be wrapping presents or baking gingerbread cookies or something? God. I'm sitting here with all these sweet, wonderful Christmas songs playing and reading this stuff.
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I'm doing both! Making a rum cake as I write...
 
BeanE said:
Shouldn't we be wrapping presents or baking gingerbread cookies or something? God. I'm sitting here with all these sweet, wonderful Christmas songs playing and reading this stuff.
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BeanE
Maybe it is because we have such good and fun things to do to get ready for the holidays that we are able to deal with this fascinating yet horrible subject. It might act as a shield to soften the harsh realities of Caylee's death.:twocents:
 
So sorry if someone already wrote this (didn't see it when I skimmed), but could adipocere like the one in the picture here be the reason that RK said he saw somthing white sticking up in the woods, back in 08/2008?
There was a discussion on the RK thread about how he could possibly have seen anything white, if the skull was inside or underneath the trash bags, but maybe her body was swollen and adipocere was covering it, before decomposition caused the body to skeletonize and the skull/bones to sink down onto the ground below.
 
BeanE said:
Shouldn't we be wrapping presents or baking gingerbread cookies or something? God. I'm sitting here with all these sweet, wonderful Christmas songs playing and reading this stuff.
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Unfortunately murder doesn't celebrate the holidays. Just ask any homicide detective who missed his kids wake up to Santa's presents, because they've been called out on a homicide three hours earlier.
 
Just Jayla said:
So sorry if someone already wrote this (didn't see it when I skimmed), but could adipocere like the one in the picture here be the reason that RK said he saw somthing white sticking up in the woods, back in 08/2008?
There was a discussion on the RK thread about how he could possibly have seen anything white, if the skull was inside or underneath the trash bags, but maybe her body was swollen and adipocere was covering it, before decomposition caused the body to skeletonize and the skull/bones to sink down onto the ground below.
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BBM. I really don't know. It well could be, or could be part of why he perceived white. Months ago I searched for pictures of children's and babies skulls as they were found outside in various places around the world. I wanted to see exactly what they looked like so I could understand better why Caylee's skull was so hard to see.

When I envisioned those skulls (which were anything but bright white, more mottled beige) in among the dense vegetation and mud, as well the black trash bags, pull up, laundry bag, trash, and a log, I could certainly understand why searchers didn't see it. I also could see how the contrast of so many dark colors in a gloomy place as a backdrop for something mottled beige would make you think 'white' as what you were seeing.

I don't think Caylee's skull was inside the bag. I think it was partially covered with the twisted remnants of the black bags.

MOO
 
I heard this a while back and didn't see a thread where it should go in.

I have heard that if you want to find out what a dead decomposing body smells like, to clip a fingernail and burn it. It allegedly doesn't smell exactly like a decomposing body, but is supposed to be close. And the smell is pervasive. And yes, I tried it.
 
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