FL-AMBER ALERT Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs. old - Putnam County #18

Sleuthster said:

Yes, Thank you.

IMO I dont agree with the other poster about bed weting being a sign that someone was molested.

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SeriouslySearching said:

I was curious about the blanket on the window, too. She did say she left her blanket in the van. Did she take it down to wash it because it was dirty and she needed another one to cover Rj? Did she wash it together with Haleigh's blanket?

Ugh. As I type this it hit me that it doesn't make any sense at all. It sounds like a "story" she told to LE as to why the blankets were so clean or damp perhaps when they came after Haleigh went missing. Maybe they noticed where the other blanket had been hanging in the window (nails, brads, something there?) and she had to come up with such a story.

If the blankets had no scent at all of Haleigh on them it would also explain why they took it outside to try to get a clear "mark" for the dogs. It could mean that Haleigh was gone long before 3:00 am and she washed evidence. (sigh)

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SS, bold by me. Hi This is the same thing I'm thinking. Quick question, and please don't get angry with me for suggesting this...I just posted something on the astrology thread. I wonder if LE did a drug test on her. Perhaps that could explain the reason for giving two polygraphs. I'm thinking that if perhaps she smoked a little bit of weed (or took another relaxant), then her peaks & dips might not be read correctly, b/c she could actually believe what she was saying or answering to be truthful. I know you said you don't think drugs were involved, but something in me is saying it shouldn't be omitted altogether. If no drug testing was performed, then they might not ever know since some drugs leave the system after 3 days. I'm not even sure that I actually believe MC is involved, but I can't rule it out yet. Some things just don't add up in my eyes...like the light in the kitchen for instance. Heck, maybe she thought she turned it off before she went to bed, but actually forgot, therefore the light would still have been on when she got up to tinkle. The cinderblock really bothers me. The fact that 911 wasn't called right away bothers me. I found that neither bio fam is great and can't help but worry that little Haleigh is no longer with us. The poor baby didn't have a chance. Both bio mom and dad seem to have gotten themselves together, but with the drugs that were involved in their past, I find it hard to believe that they're 100% off of them. Meth is a very serious drug, as well as GHB. I look at the age bio dad was when caught, and that could explain everything, especially with given the area they lived in. It's consumed with drugs. Just search demographics for those areas. If you have a problem, and you seem to overcome it, why live in an area that's surrounded with the same problems that you seem to have overcome? This is why my mind can't get rid of the thought. Please help me on this question. Do you, or would you, know if LE would have done a drug test on either MC or RC (or bio mom for that matter)? Something just doesn't add up to me. Yes, I feel as though a SO could be involved...I just wonder if it's also related or acquainted with a member of the family or group of friends. Thanks so much SS! :blowkiss:

SeriouslySearching said:

OK...I am making my plea to the higher ups with the ability to give us a subforum for this mess. I realize little Adji doesn't have his own forum, but the truth is there is not enough information coming out in his case to warrant his own right now. This case is quickly becoming a case where it could play out maybe not as large as Caylee's, but it is drawing so much interest that it is already in need of being spread out, imo. (18 threads on Day 6!!)

:bowdown: Please! Please! Please! Reconsider! :gomods: :help: :HBwhiteflag: :crosseyed:

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FightTheOstrich said:

It is a sign of sexual abuse, but the odds slim.

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tehcloser said:

Narrative: ***UPDATE The child's age and her last known location have been updated. UPDATE*** A Florida AMBER Alert has been issued for Haleigh Cummings,who was last seen in the area of Hermit's Cove in Satsuma, FL. She was last seen wearing a pink shirt and underwear.

HER LAST KNOWN LOCATION HAS CHANGED?????????????????????????????? What?????????????????????????????????/

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daisy7 said:

It looks like her age is what was updated and now says 5 years, 5 months old. The location still says Satsuma.

Haven't yet gotten the updated Amber Alert on my phone, though my cell service inside my house is always questionable.

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KOOL LOOK said:

And the Fireplace smoke stack vent thread, I want to start that one pleaze.



Darling, in order to believe Misty may have done something to Haleigh, something would have to have set her off. I can't possibly see a premeditated killing for just the thrill of it. When children are killed in the home, there's stressors, indicators, and bed wetting is one of the classic symptons of child abuse and cause of death for a young child under the age of five statistically speaking. These statistics are facts and don't lie, that's why I'm so interested in the bed wetting. I went to college for three years specializing in early childhood development and zeroing in on abuse. I have extensive knowledge of the effects bedwetting can have on the home, child and caretakers.


I know it may sound irrelavant, but motive is important here. Misty brought this up and made a point of it. Granted, may be nothing to it, but we're missing a blanket, a child and the last known person to see and be with the child is making this an issue/point.

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LovingTheChaos said:

I think way too much is being made of Haleigh wetting the bed. My dd is 6.5 years old, and has been staying dry through the night since she was 4 & a half. Recently, she started wetting the bed. I can assure you that she is not being molested - but she has had UTI's, 3 in the past 4 months. She was on 1 antibiotic for 20 days, because UTI's can be very hard to get rid of. What's changed? Well, she is older, & is much more 'bathroom independent', she is not asking me for help when she 'poos'. When she wets the bed my first thought is here we go again! Sure enough, she is taken to the Dr & Dx'd with a UTI. Once treated, she goes back to normal.
My 4 year old still wets the bed. Her pedi assures us that about 20 % of 5 year olds wet the bed. At this point, I am not worried about her. We are applying positive pressure to her (if you stay dry you will have a special surprise in the morning!).

Anyway - I just wanted to point out - it is not a big deal for a 5 year old to wet the bed. She may have been suffering from a UTI - with my daughter, the bed wetting was her only symptom for 2 of the 3 times she had the infection.

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ElizaAvalon said:

Oh lord.

The name of the owners of the home (315 2nd Ave, Satsuma) that Donald Sapp (SO) lives in (and moved into on 1/26/2009) is owned by

Griffis Jeffrey Michael + Billye

Same last name as bio-mom's boyfriend and mother.

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catch_22 said:

i think mom and gma might live together.

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Insomnia Momma said:

I have an idea

What if we went through the threads and put tags on each one as to what is discussed in it? That way we can go back and reference them. Even if we get a forum we're going to want to reference these threads. Look at how often in the CA case we say that something was discussed in the general discussion threads but we just don't know which one.

Is that a good idea? I could start to work on it...

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tehcloser said:

I question if it's even true she wet the bed. Or an excuse to get rid of other evidence.

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LancelotLink said:

I said this before in a thread somewhere, but by telling about the blankets and giving up TMI, she IMO was giving a reason for being at the back door. She made a point of saying the washer/dryer were right at the back door. She placed herself there. Mark Fuhrman 101. The one with something to hide will always place themselves at the scene but "have" a good reason for being there.

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