MaxManning
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Purpose of this thread is to discuss how reasonable it is that the killing of Teresa Halbach happened as Brendan described at one point in his confession interviews.
This is one of the most common reasons people give for the murder not being able to happen in the garage, because there'd be splatter all over the place that'd be impossible to believe that Avery/Brendan or even a professional cleanup crew could do easily.
Here are my thoughts on this topic :
I don't believe 10-12 bullets were used, just because brendan said that and prosecution was dumb enough to accept that.
If you are trying to kill someone, you don't just lay them on the ground and take 10-12 shots from a distance.
2 shots to the head seems reasonable , likely with a pillow on the head.
Avery's are skilled hunters and they likely understand blood splatter as they have undoubtedly have had to kill a deer that might be suffering if your first shot doesn't kill the deer.
A human head is not a deer head, I understand that, but blood splatter and blowback are not just relevant to humans.
Would like to hear from hunters about what they expect in a situation if/when they have to kill a deer via a shot to the head. What do they expect and what might they know about how a rifle shot to the head in terms of blowback/splatter.
If a pillow or something of that nature was used, wouldn't the blood splatter be in that pillow ?
We have heard people familiar with guns say they don't believe a .22 would go in the skull and then out the other side. So now splatter from whatever side of head was on the floor.
It has been mentioned that the bullets were jacketed, because otherwise they couldn't have been tested for ballistics.
Jacketed bullets would have survived the fire, same as the rivets. So if 10-12 shots occurred and are in the body or head, why weren't the bullets in the fire ?
1. If there is no splatter, there is minimal cleanup, just a pool of blood , possibly consistent to the luminol hit on a 3x3 area in the garage. Could be human or deer blood.
2. Does anyone really believe that they shot 10-12 times , possibly missing the body etc ?
3. None of the bullets were found in garage in an 8 day search. 5-6 months later they find some bullets they missed and casings - oops, missed those.
4. Does it really take a genius to understand splatter or how to block it, if you are a hunter ?
I know some have a problem with the pillow or something of that nature. But I still haven't heard anyone say it's implausible for any other reason than they seemingly don't want to believe it - likely because it takes away the "where's all the blood splatter ? how did they clean that up ? " argument from the arsenal.
All I am asking is for us to consider what is plausible, and imo rather likely. Yes, I think a hunter would fully understand what kind of mess was likely to occur there with 10-12 bullets at that range.
10-12 shots might make sense if TH was running around the garage and this was a cartoon.
This is one of the most common reasons people give for the murder not being able to happen in the garage, because there'd be splatter all over the place that'd be impossible to believe that Avery/Brendan or even a professional cleanup crew could do easily.
Here are my thoughts on this topic :
I don't believe 10-12 bullets were used, just because brendan said that and prosecution was dumb enough to accept that.
If you are trying to kill someone, you don't just lay them on the ground and take 10-12 shots from a distance.
2 shots to the head seems reasonable , likely with a pillow on the head.
Avery's are skilled hunters and they likely understand blood splatter as they have undoubtedly have had to kill a deer that might be suffering if your first shot doesn't kill the deer.
A human head is not a deer head, I understand that, but blood splatter and blowback are not just relevant to humans.
Would like to hear from hunters about what they expect in a situation if/when they have to kill a deer via a shot to the head. What do they expect and what might they know about how a rifle shot to the head in terms of blowback/splatter.
If a pillow or something of that nature was used, wouldn't the blood splatter be in that pillow ?
We have heard people familiar with guns say they don't believe a .22 would go in the skull and then out the other side. So now splatter from whatever side of head was on the floor.
It has been mentioned that the bullets were jacketed, because otherwise they couldn't have been tested for ballistics.
Jacketed bullets would have survived the fire, same as the rivets. So if 10-12 shots occurred and are in the body or head, why weren't the bullets in the fire ?
1. If there is no splatter, there is minimal cleanup, just a pool of blood , possibly consistent to the luminol hit on a 3x3 area in the garage. Could be human or deer blood.
2. Does anyone really believe that they shot 10-12 times , possibly missing the body etc ?
3. None of the bullets were found in garage in an 8 day search. 5-6 months later they find some bullets they missed and casings - oops, missed those.
4. Does it really take a genius to understand splatter or how to block it, if you are a hunter ?
I know some have a problem with the pillow or something of that nature. But I still haven't heard anyone say it's implausible for any other reason than they seemingly don't want to believe it - likely because it takes away the "where's all the blood splatter ? how did they clean that up ? " argument from the arsenal.
All I am asking is for us to consider what is plausible, and imo rather likely. Yes, I think a hunter would fully understand what kind of mess was likely to occur there with 10-12 bullets at that range.
10-12 shots might make sense if TH was running around the garage and this was a cartoon.