That's what I thought. I spent a month with my daughter and her family not too long ago and I had to help with bedtime for children aged 2.5 and 4. It was standard to put a pull up on the 2.5 year old. In the morning, he took it off. Children also tend to leave the pullups in the wrong place. I would interpret that (if it is a diaper) as the child taking off her own diaper in her bedroom in the morning ... before she was in her mother's bedroom. If that is a diaper, why would investigators state that someone cleaned and changed the child? If it is a diaper, how do they explain that it is on the floor?
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That's what I thought. I spent a month with my daughter and her family not too long ago and I had to help with bedtime for children aged 2.5 and 4. It was standard to put a pull up on the 2.5 year old. In the morning, he took it off. Children also tend to leave the pullups in the wrong place. I would interpret that (if it is a diaper) as the child taking off her own diaper in her bedroom in the morning ... before she was in her mother's bedroom. If that is a diaper, why would investigators state that someone cleaned and changed the child? If it is a diaper, how do they explain that it is on the floor?
Do you recall who said that? Michelle and Jason would certainly know the child's habits, but children develop so quickly and change patterns as they grow, so I would be very surprised that anyone else would actually know what the child did in the morning. The 2.5 year old that I spent time with recently had no problem with pants ... it was shirts ... pushing his head into the sleeve and other complicated, frustrating clothing acrobatics.
They didn't know he had been working in the yard. Where did you come up with this? When did he tell them he had been working in the yard? They came in cold and found a dead body. They proceeded to examine the crime scene. Did they ever present the leaking hose in the trial, ever emphasize it's importance? I don't think so. Never once did they suggest this implicated his guilt. They had tunnel vision yet it took 3 years to arrest him?
She was 2 1/2 years old. Girl. First child. I would suspect she knew how to do pull-ups. MOO.
It was mentioned during the trial. Any thoughts on why it is relevant?
Testifying Monday in the retrial of Jason Young, a crime scene investigator described for jurors the grisly scene ... Michael Galloway ... an investigations supervisor for the City-County Bureau of Investigation, the organization that collects evidence for law enforcement agencies at crime scenes in Wake County ...
"Galloway noted blood on the knob on a door to the garage from the kitchen.
Outside the house, he saw a tire track in the mud next to the driveway next to a lamp post by the street. He also noticed a water hose in the backyard running with water leaking from both the spigot and handle."
http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/10721740/#0pdHkB6Ja68ZDtLV.99
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Not only did they try and imply that Jason cleaned himself off with the hose out in the yard in freezing cold weather, but that CY could have been taken outside and cleaned the same way.....just boggles.
And, the DNA on the rock, I am not positive of the results, do you remember specifically?
I need to look that one up..okay, it was inconclusive.
Correct me if I am wrong but you said your daughter had 4 children under the age of 4? One can hardly use that as a measure for CY. She was an only child. Your daughter is swamped. Comparing apples to oranges.
The leaking hose was mentioned during trial. It does take a long time to arrest someone when the investigation is governed by fitting evidence to a suspect.
He's stating what he found at the crime scene. It's as simple as that.
The fingerprints and DNA on the rock did not match Jason.
page 57: http://www.wral.com/asset/specialreports/michelleyoung/2013/07/30/12722071/show-file.pdf
(page 57 in the pdf, page 49 in the document)
He was actually describing the "grisly scene" and, in that context, he mentioned the hose.
I did not state that my daughter had four children under the age of four. My daughter is not a baby machine that pops one out each year. I stated two children aged 2.5 and 4. There's a third child that is a few months old, but all she does is sleep. My "swamped" daughter's 2.5 year is capable of removing a pull up, putting on his pants, and managing zippers. Girls tend to develop at a younger age, so it's quite possible that Jason's daughter, the "only child", could also put on shirts and manage buttons. Perhaps she could also drive a car! Oh wait, there's video of that!
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The testimony via MF and SS was that she wore a diaper at night; pull-up during the day and that she could undress very easily but did not dress herself. If she did put her own pants on, it was the first time ever.
Then we're back to -- she slept in her bedroom and we have to wonder then when she got into the blood and got cleaned up because it's far fetched to believe that she remained spotlessly clean if she woke that morning in her room until 1:30PM. Her doll was found next to MY's head.
Hopefully this highly trained man is not wasting the jury's time with mentioning facts, such as the hose, that are not relevant to the prosecution's case.
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Oh, wow, I almost forgot this one. same Page 57, also.
"The timing was such that the state tried to establish that Mr. Young chartered a plane in Hillsville."
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You did not mention that your daughter had 4 children.......
Wow! That is another example of investigators turning themselves into pretzels in order to pin the murder on Jason. Did they really think that he could charter a plane and keep that secret while he committed murder? Where did they get these crazy ideas?
Unless she had a couple of other children locked in the cupboard, I'm pretty sure I only mentioned that two ... but there is the newborn as well ... she doesn't do zippers ... yet.
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Yes, but they would have to bypass Gracie on this one, unless there was a landing strip nearby and he needed fuel for the twin engines.
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I actually do think the prosecution was just pointing things out as the video was shown because the backyard was included and you never know if that may be important. It isn't at this point but think about some other evidence that is very important right now, such as CY's pajamas and the absence of footprints on the carpeting in the hallway. I think it's fine that they showed the hose. There never was any testimony indicating that the hose was used in the crime, just that they did swab it for DNA and tested the area for blood and there was no blood or blood residue.
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