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Old 06-19-2013, 06:39 AM
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Man found decapitated, police suspect suicide

http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/...suicide/nYNZh/

Police say a woman who lives in the home found her husband dead in the garage.
His hands and feet were tied and the body had been decapitated.
Tulsa police told KRMG news the death was due to suicide.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:24 AM
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So...what? He hopped into a whirling blade?

Ah...now I understand more after reading the comments below the story. So perhaps he hanged himself, and this was a result. Still, a poorly written story.
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:55 AM
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Horrific way to find your husband. Terrible article, makes barely any sense.
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:39 AM
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how do you tie your own hands?
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:44 PM
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So perhaps he hanged himself, and this was a result. Still, a poorly written story.
It had to be a pretty long drop to take his head off! Maybe his garage has a 20' ceiling?
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:46 PM
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It had to be a pretty long drop to take his head off! Maybe his garage has a 20' ceiling?
I think it can also happen if the rope is not knotted correctly, or tied correctly, but don't quote me on that.
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:48 PM
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how do you tie your own hands?
Kind of reminds me of that census taker in Kentucky. That they found hanging, with hands tied and things written on his body.

I'll have to go look for that story.

But getting back to your original question...maybe he used his teeth? (Not trying to be funny.)

Census taker story:
http://www.columbiatribune.com/wire/...9f220d73c.html

ETA: this story doesn't say it, but I thought they'd ruled it was a suicide. Back to looking....

This article says he committed suicide because he thought his lymphoma, which had been treated previously, had returned. More details in the article:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...-suicide_N.htm
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:49 PM
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The whole thing makes no sense to me.
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Old 06-19-2013, 04:54 PM
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The ratio of body weight to rope length answers why one ends up decapitated from a hanging. There is something called a Table of Drops out there that gives you the precise numbers for what rope length to use, per weight of a person.

But then again, if this isn't a botched hanging, there is the chance that he did what others have done in the past: brought himself down on a table/circular saw to accomplish the deed. Either way it goes, I am sure his poor wife has been traumatized beyond belief, by what she saw...
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:33 AM
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how do you tie your own hands?
That's what I was thinking, this whole story left me
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:20 AM
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But then again, if this isn't a botched hanging, there is the chance that he did what others have done in the past: brought himself down on a table/circular saw to accomplish the deed.
Suicides have also decapitated themselves by placing their necks on a rail as a train approaches.
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Old 06-23-2013, 02:11 AM
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OK - Woman finds husband dead in garage, feet bound, decapitated. Suicide??

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/stor...FSf3gsBHA.cspx


Tulsa police say a woman came home to find her husband dead in the garage.

Police said the man was found with his hands and feet bound and he had been decapitated. Police surrounded the home near 45th & Sheridan during the investigation.

Police told FOX23 the death was suicide. FOX23 has spoken to the family and is honoring their request for privacy.
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Old 06-23-2013, 02:45 AM
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Tulsa police say a woman came home to find her husband dead in the garage.

Police said the man was found with his hands and feet bound and he had been decapitated. Police surrounded the home near 45th & Sheridan during the investigation.

Police told FOX23 the death was suicide. FOX23 has spoken to the family and is honoring their request for privacy.
Wow, that is awful. I would need a few more, or a lot more, details to find the idea of suicide plausible.
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Old 06-23-2013, 02:55 AM
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I read about this elsewhere, but can't remember where. Call it a rumor then, but the man hanged himself, and that is how he was decapitated. Now, how he did it all with his hands tied (in front or in back? Dunno) who knows? IIRC, his head wasn't completely detached.

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Old 06-23-2013, 03:16 AM
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Tulsa police say a woman came home to find her husband dead in the garage.

Police said the man was found with his hands and feet bound and he had been decapitated. Police surrounded the home near 45th & Sheridan during the investigation.

Police told FOX23 the death was suicide. FOX23 has spoken to the family and is honoring their request for privacy.
Read comments - too much drop
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/...suicide/nYNZh/
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:50 AM
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Yeah that happened to at least one of the Iraqi Gov official that was hung. That is why executioners using the rope need to refer to the British Hanging Guide which specified rope lengths based on weight.

Rope is too long and the head can pop off, rope is too short and they die of slow strangulation instead of a broken neck.
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Old 06-23-2013, 03:14 PM
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I get how you can bind your own feet... but how would you bind your own hands?
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I get how you can bind your own feet... but how would you bind your own hands?
Grab a roll of duct tape or a pair of handcuffs or a piece of rope and try.

It isn't that hard to do.
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Also in the comments that the woman is the sheriff's girlfriend.

IDK I still have trouble buying suicide. Too much drop could only be an answer if he was dropping from 2 or more stories. Or if he used something like a wire to make the noose. Though the suggestion that he tied himself to the chair then dropped and the added weight caused the decapitation is intriguing. Though I am not sure how a man could tie himself to a chair, climb up and maneuver into the drop. That seems pretty awkward.
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http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/...suicide/nYNZh/

Police say a woman who lives in the home found her husband dead in the garage.
His hands and feet were tied and the body had been decapitated.
Tulsa police told KRMG news the death was due to suicide.

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how do you tie your own hands?
Exactly, how do you tie your own hands?

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So...what? He hopped into a whirling blade?

Ah...now I understand more after reading the comments below the story. So perhaps he hanged himself, and this was a result. Still, a poorly written story.
Still, how did he tie his hands.
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IDK I still have trouble buying suicide. Too much drop could only be an answer if he was dropping from 2 or more stories.
According to the hanging charts decapitation (or partial) can occur with an 8 foot drop of the person is 200 lbs or more.

A century ago they shorted the standard drop length likely because that is exactly what was happening. Still seems surprising for inside a garage though.

Old drop vs modern drop rope lengths:
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14.0 stone (196 lb, 89 kg) 8 ft 0 in (244 cm) 5 ft 5 in (165 cm)
13.5 stone (189 lb, 86 kg) 8 ft 2 in (249 cm) 5 ft 6 in (168 cm)
13.0 stone (182 lb, 82¾kg) 8 ft 4 in (254 cm) 5 ft 8 in (173 cm)
12.5 stone (175 lb, 79½kg) 8 ft 6 in (259 cm) 5 ft 11 in (180 cm)

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Grab a roll of duct tape or a pair of handcuffs or a piece of rope and try.

It isn't that hard to do.
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According to the hanging charts decapitation (or partial) can occur with an 8 foot drop of the person is 200 lbs or more.

A century ago they shorted the standard drop length likely because that is exactly what was happening. Still seems surprising for inside a garage though.

Old drop vs modern drop rope lengths:
Sonya, can I ask what you do for a living? You are a keeper of some rather "dark" information, lol -- doesn't bother me in the least, just find it intriguing and had to ask!!
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Sonya, can I ask what you do for a living? You are a keeper of some rather "dark" information, lol -- doesn't bother me in the least, just find it intriguing and had to ask!!
My bits of weird knowledge are not job related. I just happen to have a good memory for weird death related topics and on the interwebs there are lots of places to research and lots of likeminded people sharing information.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS7Y6...embedded#at=17

My thoughts are that someone that bounds their hands together (and/or feet) prior to committing suicide does so because they want to make sure they complete the suicide and not panic and try to save themselves.
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My thoughts are that someone that bounds their hands together (and/or feet) prior to committing suicide does so because they want to make sure they complete the suicide and not panic and try to save themselves.
Good video.

And your theory is sound. The very long drop plus binding feet and hands etc.... No chance to back out. Seems like a bit of "overkill" if you ask me, but still a sound theory. The guy in the video mentions insurance payout....if that was the whole idea it was just plain stupid.
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