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All this talk about Luka's childhood is starting to give me the heebee-jeebees. I hope his childhood troubles don't get in the way of the fact that he brutally murdered an innocent human being as well as animals.

Yes, his childhood no doubt was horrible. But that's no excuse. No "If the glove don't fit we must acquit" stuff here. LE has him on video tape doing the killing. That's pretty clear evidence. :jail:

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I know how you feel. When I read his posts about his childhood I can't believe in a word he says, I keep thinking here we go, poor me woe trying to get attention. It's simple, if we just google "cutelittlenemo1'', we get messages of him talking about his 'horrible childhood' but we find also post asking for morphine to knock out someone, talking about being an animal lover and wants to adopt kittens in Arizona, how to feed and bath cats and dogs, saying his family owns a petshop, posts about loving being raped and eating insects and feces while being photographed by his master, so many crazy things and lies (for instance about loving animals) this is just the tip of the iceberg, one of his hundreds online identities.

So when I read all that, I can't believe in anything he says about his childhood, because he lied so much, lost any credibility, this is the same person who adopted stray cats just to film them being tortured and killed, suffocated, drowned, eaten by a snake, this is the same guy who murdered JL in the most grotesque humilliating way and afterwards distributed the video online to the whole world! he even promoted the killvideos before the murder took place. I might be too cold hearted but there is no way I can feel sorry for his posts about his childhood, I've seen kids going through hell here in Brazil (being daily raped as a toddler, hunger, beaten up, living in favelas, child prostitution etc)and I don't see them engage in cannibalism, necrophilia, they might kill, steal, rape, become prostitutes, drug dealers, crack addicts and hate society in general but I never heard them doing so bizarre things like Magnotta decided to do, I never heard them filming and uploading on the net. If they do, they might keep it a secret, they know it's wrong, but LM was so proud of what he did that he distributed and promoted his monstrosity.

Even if his childhood was really unbearable, true hell, there is still no excuse to me, I know abuse victims might seek revenge and try to be in control doing the same bad things they suffered to others, but there is always a way to don't go there, there is a choice and Luka could have turned his life around and don't become a monster if he really wanted, he could seek help, call me naive but I trust there is always a way to not become so evil regardless of your childhood and enviroment.
just my opinion sorry if I offended anyone!
I'll be back later to read the other posts. Cheers!:seeya:
 
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Do we believe these incest claims made by LM? Before I read he had sex with his sister, now it is his Mother going by this account???
These are very weird claims!! Sick fantasy of his maybe???

it's hard to believe anything Magnotta says other than the claims that he has documented for the world (these would include sexual claims, threatening claims, killing of human & animals, etc).

A big part of his process seems to be start with an outrageous claim that peaks his curiosity, begin to share these claims to gauge response, then fulfill the claim and f document this fulfillment, share claim with the world, receive the attention he craves; repeat with new claim.



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The word "politician" does not appear in the article that was linked:

scroll down to:

Murder mastermind in drug addiction rehab in Canada

http://dr1.com/premium/news/2012/dnews052312.shtml


Not all "Canadians" are politicians ;)

I can't edit that post anymore, perharps the mods can do it, I will ask. My bad!
Anyway, the canadian guy currently in rehab and was accused of paying some dancer to kill the woman who works at the Manati Park.
 
I'm not sure where to post this, but I found it on one other forum and nowhere else. Claim that this is the craigslist ad Jun Lin responded to:

http://montreal.fr.craigslist.ca/m4m/3035036102.html

Movie - m4m - 26 (Montreal)

Date : 2012-05-24, 9:39AM EDT
Répondre à : hpd3j-3035036102@pers.craigslist.org

I am looking for a sexy guy who is interested into becoming an actor in a personal movie I am making.

Please be between 18 and 35, good looking. I am making the movie for me, it's for fun, so I m not going to pay you anything.

if you are interested, send me your stats with a face pic and a body pic.

Remember, No pic= No answer

AND i am not looking for sex and No c_ck sucking.

Here is the forum page:
http://http://survivorsucks.com/topic/95655/*advertiser censored*-friend--Homolka-****s-dead-body-mails-parts--Canuck-pol?page=11#.T-WM1LVbdGl

I have read vague reports that the Lin and Magnotta knew each other and had some sort of relationship, but I was suspicious as to how someone in a social circle revolving around education such as Lin would be put in touch with antisocial Magnotta (unless it was through on of his escort channels etc.) In addition, none of Lin's friends knew of Magnotta or how the two would have met. Due to these circumstances I believe it more likely that Lin responded to the craigslist ad (presumably the same one that webmasters warned of harassment from may 10-25). Does anyone have more insight on the Craigslist postings?

From a Psych standpoint, I also think that this fits Magnotta's profile a bit better. While it is clear that he did obsess over old relationships from time to time (and harass old partners online), he doesn't seem like a vengeful killer. It seems like the only 'worthwhile' feeling he can attain is through shock, and the reaction of others to the shock he has created, an impersonal type of killer. Browsing Craiglist would have allowed him to select a suitable victim, and just like in his animal killing videos, I think he was looking for the easiest victim he could find.

Additionally, after looking at the homme cerche homme section in which the ad was posted, it would be very easy for any number of sickos to hide in there, as there are volumes of what many would consider to be vial posts on a daily basis. Compared to other titles in the section, the suspected Magnotta ad would appear on the friendly side of the scale, if not the least threatening post of the entire page. It would attract an unsuspecting person who was lonely but not looking for any of the over the top sexual stuff that is on there. The ad IMO is out of place compared to its context, appearing overly innocent and making a point to state that there was no sexual interest.
 
I believe he has committed other murders and the psych evaluations would have revealed some very disturbing "skeltons in the closet." Not from his childhood but from his adulthood. He did not want to take that risk. He still has control....for now. If he gets convicted, we may get some of the disturbing details but in the meantime, we let his 3 attorneys do their thing....whatever that may be.:moo:

I'm thinking I should get the hell out of dodge from this province...

~n/t~ I appreciate what you wrote and find myself wanting to completely agree with you but my hesitation is based on one question: Is Magnotta someone that would share past crimes/skeletons with a shrink knowing that he wouldn't receive the positive/negative attention/feedback he craves and that such information could be used against him?

Appreciate insights anyone might have to share.

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So when I read all that, I can't believe in anything he says about his childhood, because he lied so much, lost any credibility, this is the same person who adopted stray cats just to film them being tortured and killed, suffocated, drowned, eaten by a snake ...
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I can't help but wonder about the post cutelittlenemo1 made about wolves:

When I was younger we used to have wolfs outside our home many nights. You have to make sure they dont get a hold of small animals because thats usually why they would come near my back porch. I would wake up and hear a noise and then I looked out the window and the wolfs were on the patio.

We had one of our dogs disappear in the middle of the night and my parents suspected the wolfs took it.
Humans dont need to be afraid, its very rare for a wolf to attack a human. Do some research. Unless they are starving, they wont attack you. Just dont threaten them in any way and you should be safe.

Arizona has many wild animals , so at night its pretty dangerous.


cutelittlenemo1

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I can't edit that post anymore, perharps the mods can do it, I will ask. My bad!
Anyway, the canadian guy currently in rehab and was accused of paying some dancer to kill the woman who works at the Manati Park.

No worries, I alerted the Mods.

Based on your post about Manati Park and LRM having been there, i am going to try to sleuth out how the person actually charged with Maribel's murder came to know said Canadian dude GW and what the circumstances of the "hit" might be.
 
Something I thought a bit strange about the Manati park is that last may Maribel Buritica who worked there was murdered and there was a canadian politician (Gordon Wilson) involved in the case. I don't know if there is any connection to Magnotta, probably not, but anyway here goes the link: http://dr1.com/premium/news/2012/dnews052312.shtml

CORRECTION: remove the word politician, the guy is Gordon Wilson, 'Gordy' who is being treated for drug addiction at a psychiatric facility in Canada.
Hope this clears up the confusion until the moderators can edit my post.
Sorry guys.
 
I wanted to respond to this because it sounds like you came from a good family Donyale. :) Myself, as a poster child for a dysfunctional family, not all of us turn out monsters. I am the oldest of four, my paranoid schizo father wreaked all types of havoc until my very young mother chose to flee from him one day while he was at work.

One of my sisters is histrionic, but she functions (just very egotistical--haha);
my brother is in prison on 21 felony drug charges--I believe he got a bit more of my dad's genetics and as a male may have turned outward as a solution to his mental issues; myself, I have a few things wrong mentally in that I have pretty high anxiety, but I turned inward and mainly dealt with depression and some other things that are undiagnosed as yet. I went to grad school, got my MBA, and work high level in a company making six figures. I am female and I believe the fact that society allows females to express emotions and be more nurturing, etc, allowed me to come out better than my brother in the end. Despite background, we still choose our path. My brother likes to blame others for his situation, and I never did that.

Not all abuse is going to mess everyone up equally or in the same way, even in the same family, we are wired differently and have different coping mechanisms.

As for what you said about dumping LRM in the system and never speaking to him if he didn't improve, having the brother I do, I agree to an extent, he's done things to me that are terrible (broke into my house and stole most of my expensive possessions to pay for his drugs, for example). However, if I knew there WAS a way to help him by my being present, I would in a heartbeat. What I find odd (and maybe it's going on in the background and I just don't see it) is that LRM's family seems absent other than speaking ill of him to the press (calling him a nutjob). If this were my brother, no matter how messed up, I would be there to assist the lawyers and psychiatrists in getting what they needed. That's how I feel family unconditionally loves you. I think part of this lack of support system speaks volumes to things he says happened in his childhood. I could be wrong, though.
Your situation seems to parallel mine. I haven't spoken to my brother in so long it's hard to say what I would do if he was in this muck. It's very difficult for me to view Luka's family MySpace page. It seems like a very desperate attempt by a mentally ill person to connect to his family - to have a family.

And keep in mind he did lie about a lot of stuff, but we do see many pictures of him and his mom on nice vacations together. It's amazing to me how people suddenly don't care how you make your money when they are spending it.

I have an ex who I thought came from a perfect little midwest family. I visited them in Colorado and his dad was a well-respected Sheriff and his mom was remarried to a college professor. He played football in High School and seemed to have had the perfect childhood. We moved in together when I was in college and we were in our early 20s. I never ever had a reason not to trust him, but I just had a strong gut feeling something was not right. I eventually discovered that he was bisexual and cheating on me with multiple men he was meeting on a gay hookup site. When I confronted him the truth about his childhood came out. When he was about 7 he was playing hide and seek unattended and his little brother hid in an old freezer and suffocated, and his parents blamed him for it. When he was about 8 years old his parents said they couldn't handle him anymore and he was put into a group home and then foster care. IDK if this was true - I am guessing CPS took him away after his brother dies, but whatever. He was repeatedly raped in the group home and then molested by a friend's foster father who would use his foster child to lure in more kids for him. He had a twin sister I didn't even know about and when his parents divorced neither of them wanted the twins, so at the age of 14 the parents rented a rundown apartment for them and left them to their own devices. Somehow he graduated HS and joined the military, but he was never able to control his compulsion for sexual deviency which he attributes to the sexual abuse. There is no doubt in my mind that if he had ever done anything to uncover these abuses his family would have disowned him and done everything in their power to destroy and discredit him, especially since they were trying so hard to create an illusion of normalcy.

That being said, if there is anyone I trust less than Luka, it's the members of his family.
 
Does anyone else find it odd that German officials were happy to see LM go because the case is "a lot of trouble" and his German lawyer has refused to make a single public comment? I'm inclined to think that there is much more to the entire story than what is evidenced by the video, Luka's childhood, or anything else we might be aware of.

When Magnotta declined to fight extradition it became clear to me that he has something up his sleeve. While I have no idea what this could be but I have no doubt that whatever it is, Magnotta firmly believes in his plan and is confident it will be successful. If he did not have a plan that his delusional mind allows him to believe will work, he would still be in Germany trying to conjure something up.

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Misery lit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Literary hoaxes"

"Misery lit" has been proven to be a popular genre for literary hoaxes in which authors claim to reveal painful stories from their past.

Other, more recent memoirs, which tell of childhood miseries as a result of parental abuse, drug use, illness and the like, include Go Ask Alice (1971) by Beatrice Sparks, A Rock and a Hard Place: One Boy's Triumphant Story (1993) by "Anthony Godby Johnson", The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things (2001) by "JT LeRoy", Kathy's Story (2005) by Kathy O'Beirne[9] and Love and Consequences (2008) by Margaret Seltzer

Some memoirs of suffering have included elements of both truth and fiction. These include I, Rigoberta Menchú (1983) by Rigoberta Menchú (a book that won Menchú the Nobel Peace Prize in 1992) and A Million Little Pieces (2003) by James Frey.
 
I googled it and found that it was a Canadian politician with the liberal party that they said paid them to kill her. I will try to find the article again. I didn't even read the article that was originally posted here.

The politician GW is a former BC politician. I live in BC and follow daily mainstream newspapers. Unless this is the best kept secret in BC's history, it is not the same person.

Mind you, there are many who think GW the politician should be in rehab or some psyche ward, but that's a story for another day, LOL:floorlaugh:
 
~n/t~ I appreciate what you wrote and find myself wanting to completely agree with you but my hesitation is based on one question: Is Magnotta someone that would share past crimes/skeletons with a shrink knowing that he wouldn't receive the positive/negative attention/feedback he craves and that such information could be used against him?

Appreciate insights anyone might have to share.

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I would think he wouldn't. With his long-term mental health issues, he would have had a good reason to see a psychiatrist, and have years worth of therapy. My guess is that an "audience" of one wouldn't have been enough for him.
Either that, or he might have been afraid of a doctor deeming him "certifiable", and locking him up. I really think he doesn't want people to think he's crazy (contrary to what he kept posting online)!
 
I'm on page 5 (my user controls are set at 50 posts/page) and am reading about how R drug could be affecting him and whatnot.

There is a website http://www.askapatient.com/ that people can post about how drugs affect them. If you search on there for the R drug you will see that there are nearly 600 ratings, and the drug has a rating of 2.4 out of 5. You'll also see that it can be used to control many things other than schizophrenia. Bipolar, ocd, aggression, bad headaches, ptsd, torrettes, assbergers etc.

Sorry if that's already been posted. I only have up to page 6 saved, I read offline.

What's the other drug he's on? Starts with D doesn't it?
 
The politician GW is a former BC politician. I live in BC and follow daily mainstream newspapers. Unless this is the best kept secret in BC's history, it is not the same person.

Mind you, there are many who think GW the politician should be in rehab or some psyche ward, but that's a story for another day, LOL:floorlaugh:
I'm sure you are correct. I had to go through many pages on Google to find anything and it was obviously a very poorly interpreted article because it was difficult to read. I am still trying to re-find it, but if it is buried this deep in the first place it's probably not credible.
 
@Baudi , I know the person in the python video was only in the aftermath portion but this person still remains one of the weirdest things to me. Whoever it was must have been somewhat close to LM, right? At least it is someone who we know has known him in the past few years anyway. I was wondering if maybe you guys know who it is and feel like they are clear of malicious acts so you can't say anymore (which is cool if that's the case of course) or is the person a complete mystery??

Complete mystery to us. We honestly have no idea who it is. It's been bothering us for months and months. There is another video that we only have a 30 second preview of, but its a nine minute video, and we wondered if this second person made an appearance, but... we never could find the full length video anywhere.

Was it someone close to him? Probably; but who knows? It could have just been a neighbor. One of the things that I said after viewing it for the first time was "what kind of conversation do you have about this with a friend?"

Luka: "hey buddy, wanna come over?"
Unidentified person: "sure what are we going to do?"
Luka: "well, i was thinking about putting a santa outfit on and petting a huge python all sexual like, while you film me and we jam out to some Aladdin music"
Unidentified person: "sure, Ill be right over, sounds fun!"

I mean really, what kind of relationship needs to exist for that type of thing to happen?
 
To CARIIS post just above:

:tyou: for the kind words about our Canadian system re minors. It does work out quite well!!
Ugh it is so not ok usa the way it has gotten our stuff says right to privacy here the last 15 years ugh wrong i have been amazed at how neat it is up there

the lead detective/ canadian journatlists handled themselves with dignity and professionialism (I was struck by that within 4 hours ) intially confused me

and this is sensationial case

here THE LEAD LE dude would have his house attacked ,his family harassed ,reporters would be stalking the persons 2nd grade children for a commen,.

it is so out of control
boundaries media /indiv right to know /and privacy/ GONE usa !
 
I know how you feel. When I read his posts about his childhood I can't believe in a word he says, I keep thinking here we go, poor me woe trying to get attention. It's simple, if we just google "cutelittlenemo1'', we get messages of him talking about his 'horrible childhood' but we find also post asking for morphine to knock out someone, talking about being an animal lover and wants to adopt kittens in Arizona, how to feed and bath cats and dogs, saying his family owns a petshop, posts about loving being raped and eating insects and feces while being photographed by his master, so many crazy things and lies (for instance about loving animals) this is just the tip of the iceberg, one of his hundreds online identities.

So when I read all that, I can't believe in anything he says about his childhood, because he lied so much, lost any credibility, this is the same person who adopted stray cats just to film them being tortured and killed, suffocated, drowned, eaten by a snake, this is the same guy who murdered JL in the most grotesque humilliating way and afterwards distributed the video online to the whole world! he even promoted the killvideos before the murder took place. I might be too cold hearted but there is no way I can feel sorry for his posts about his childhood, I've seen kids going through hell here in Brazil (being daily raped as a toddler, hunger, beaten up, living in favelas, child prostitution etc)and I don't see them engage in cannibalism, necrophilia, they might kill, steal, rape, become prostitutes, drug dealers, crack addicts and hate society in general but I never heard them doing so bizarre things like Magnotta decided to do, I never heard them filming and uploading on the net. If they do, they might keep it a secret, they know it's wrong, but LM was so proud of what he did that he distributed and promoted his monstrosity.

Even if his childhood was really unbearable, true hell, there is still no excuse to me, I know abuse victims might seek revenge and try to be in control doing the same bad things they suffered to others, but there is always a way to don't go there, there is a choice and Luka could have turned his life around and don't become a monster if he really wanted, he could seek help, call me naive but I trust there is always a way to not become so evil regardless of your childhood and enviroment.
just my opinion sorry if I offended anyone!
I'll be back later to read the other posts. Cheers!:seeya:
It is not feeling sorry for him nor wanting to get him off and free it is about UNDERSTANDING the behavoirs CAUSES REASONS A WAY TO TRY AND WRAP ONES HEAD AROUND the severity and impact of tormenting little people and what happens (consequences) of that kind of abuse
again my friends , It is not feeling sorry for him nor wanting to get him off and free
 
it's hard to believe anything Magnotta says other than the claims that he has documented for the world (these would include sexual claims, threatening claims, killing of human & animals, etc).

A big part of his process seems to be start with an outrageous claim that peaks his curiosity, begin to share these claims to gauge response, then fulfill the claim and f document this fulfillment, share claim with the world, receive the attention he craves; repeat with new claim.



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It is Narcisstic personality disorder to the tee, which is caused by SEVERE abuse, resulting in profound mental illiness and the resultant behaviors of that trauma......
 
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